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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:12 PM ET
Rich Smith ‏@ALLsportsINTEL 4m

NHL - Source - Oilers fans likely to feel like they were robbed if the Oilers meet the Flyers asking price for Coburn.

- Winning

hey Rich Smith how bout you stay quiet and not c-block
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:13 PM ET
Except Pietrangelo just told the Blues to pony up 7MM a year minimum or don't bother talking to him. Could be an opportunity there.
- Flyers1218

I VOLUNTEER THE FLYERS THANK YOU VERY (frank)ING MUCH
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 2:13 PM ET
Then again, some of these rumors need to be taken with a grain of salt. TSN's throwing a lot of stuff out there... we all know most of it won't come close to happening.
- Tomahawk


I hear you -- trust me, I hear you. The media was killing Seguin during and after, though, because he just didn't give them anything in the finals, especially when you consider the Bergeron was hurt and Krejci's line was getting shut down after the Blackhawks made adjustments.

They really needed him, and he didn't give them anything...they're pretty sour.

That's being said...there's risk, and there's craziness.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 29 @ 2:14 PM ET
hey Rich Smith how bout you stay quiet and not c-block
- Crimsoninja


exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:14 PM ET
If they got the 7th would anybody be upset if they took Nurse & at 11 landed Ristolainen ?
- ob18


Not high on Ristolainen...I agree with Bill that his offensive upside could be limited and his D isn't all that either...I wouldn't necessarily be upset in that scenario, especially given my affinity for Nurse, but I'd rather see Pulock taken there.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 2:14 PM ET
What do you know about Paarjvi?
- MJL


I know he fits into an NHL lineup, and we'll move up, and we'll open up cap space. It's a really good deal
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:15 PM ET
hey Rich Smith how bout you stay quiet and not c-block
- Crimsoninja

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 2:15 PM ET
I hear you -- trust me, I hear you. The media was killing Seguin during and after, though, because he just didn't give them anything in the finals, especially when you consider the Bergeron was hurt and Krejci's line was getting shut down after the Blackhawks made adjustments.

They really needed him, and he didn't give them anything...they're pretty sour.

That's being said...there's risk, and there's craziness.

- AllInForFlyers



The rationale that TSN cited was pretty flimsy though... Chiarelli needs to consider trading Seguin or risk losing Horton?

Nathan Horton already indicated he's going to walk... Bruins are probably better off for it, too.
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:16 PM ET
http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=main/latest/1/0/956451/clip/482


If Morin doesn't scream Flyers pick, I don't know who does. I just hope he isn't the 11 pick

- phatpat44


Yeah, wouldn't mind him at #41, but no way at #11. I came away with a lesser opinion of him after watching that vid. Would take Nurse, Zadorov or Pulock over Morin at #11.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:16 PM ET
So what exactly are the flyers asking for?? I'm lost
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:17 PM ET
So what exactly are the flyers asking for?? I'm lost
- griouxmvp2012

Thats the question
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 2:17 PM ET
I know he fits into an NHL lineup, and we'll move up, and we'll open up cap space. It's a really good deal
- Just5


Pääjärvi doesn't work hard enough to pot goals in the AHL... he's pretty much bounced up and down non-stop between EDM and OKC since he turned pro... not a guy I'm trading a legit (and still young) top-4 NHL dman for.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:17 PM ET
I know he fits into an NHL lineup, and we'll move up, and we'll open up cap space. It's a really good deal
- Just5


In order to know it's a really good deal. You'd have to know something about Pääjärvi
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 29 @ 2:18 PM ET
Its kind of a typical thing for me to say, but Paajarvi seems too soft for my liking.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:18 PM ET
I know he fits into an NHL lineup, and we'll move up, and we'll open up cap space. It's a really good deal
- Just5


I've been keeping an eye on him ever since Bill started mentioning his name at the TDL last season. I think he'd fit will in Philly. Great size, Some speed, and some great moves. He seems snake bit when shooting much like Jake was before thiis season.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:18 PM ET
Not high on Ristolainen...I agree with Bill that his offensive upside could be limited and his D isn't all that either...I wouldn't necessarily be upset in that scenario, especially given my affinity for Nurse, but I'd rather see Pulock taken there.
- exlund


I'd actually want Zadorov if they can't move back to take Morrissey
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 29 @ 2:19 PM ET
In order to know it's a really good deal. You'd have to know something about Pääjärvi
- MJL


What's your opinion on him and the proposed trade?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:19 PM ET
Hey guys....Bill's article was listed as the first reference on Paajarvi's wiki page!!
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:19 PM ET
Oilers fans will be furious. Eberle and 7th overall for Coburn, Read and 11th overall is close.


Hahah I wish
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 29 @ 2:19 PM ET
I'd actually want Zadorov if they can't move back to take Morrissey
- ob18


Jumped on the train finally have you?
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:20 PM ET
Pääjärvi doesn't work hard enough to pot goals in the AHL... he's pretty much bounced up and down non-stop between EDM and OKC since he turned pro... not a guy I'm trading a legit (and still young) top-4 NHL dman for.
- Tomahawk



I think we should all stop calling coburn a top 4 dman and start calling him a 3-4 dman cause thats really what he is
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:20 PM ET
Jumped on the train finally have you?
- flyer_nutter


I've liked him for a while but always felt #11 is too high for him.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 2:20 PM ET
The rationale that TSN cited was pretty flimsy though... Chiarelli needs to consider trading Seguin or risk losing Horton?

Nathan Horton already indicated he's going to walk... Bruins are probably better off for it, too.

- Tomahawk


You know, it's funny. You can't take anything away from the B's because of their recent success, but they have some real holes if Horton walks and Tyler Seguin really is regressing.

Again, it's way too early to put Tyler Seguin in a box, and I'm not doing that.

But they actually NEEDED Jaromir Jagr. They don't have much in their system, with regard to high-end talent on the wings.

Maybe they're looking to score multiple pieces for Seguin, because if Horton does walk, they'd need two Top 6 RW PDQ.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 29 @ 2:20 PM ET
I hear you -- trust me, I hear you. The media was killing Seguin during and after, though, because he just didn't give them anything in the finals, especially when you consider the Bergeron was hurt and Krejci's line was getting shut down after the Blackhawks made adjustments.

They really needed him, and he didn't give them anything...they're pretty sour.

That's being said...there's risk, and there's craziness.

- AllInForFlyers

hip issue...2nd time in short career
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 2:20 PM ET
The majority of oilers fans seem to be upset with this proposed deal
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