If we get any young forward with potential for coburnthat should all but kill the Bob Ryan rumors

[quote=AllInForFlyers]I already politely informed mine what this weekend is. She rolled her eyes, smiled, and said "you're lucky to have me around when you do 48 straight hours of hockey. What do you want for dinner?"

Too bad the next sentence was, "good get it yourself."
- LJF

Well, she does love me! I'm extremely adorable, don't you know.

He wasn't forced to fly Bryz over to Philly in Snider's jet either.


I think if it was homer's idea, he would be in a situation a lot loke Gillis is in Vancouver. Everyone is talking about him losing his job over the luongo situation, when he is trying to get anything to help lessen the damage of his contract handed out. Homer just released Bryz, with no compensation at all. All things equal, I'd say Homer is getting a pass because his boss knows why they got into that situation.
- the deaninator

true, but that doesn't prevent him from using vokoun to drive down bryzs price

We welcome any "long time creeps" on to HB.
- flyer_nutter

Well OB18 has been a creep for a long time and he's a ref!

Dreger just said on nhl network that holmgren has 2 trades. 7 and 4th round from edmonton or the 5th from Carolina
- phatpat44

Coburn + 11th = Carolina's #5 pick?
Is that what is proposed?

Coburn + 11th = Carolina's #5 pick?
Is that what is proposed?
- Marc D

Gotta be more in that

Well OB18 has been a creep for a long time and he's a ref!
- Hextall271

I was waiting for this Newfie

Well...I haven't told her about July 5 yet.

- AllInForFlyers

I'm screwed on the 5th, its our anniversary.
At least she's beautiful and after 21 years of marriage, still my best friend so I really can't complain!

No but he was forced to go out and deal for Bryzgalov's rights. Once you do that, you are almost always going to overpay. I don't believe Ed Snider would have been ok with just trading for his rights and then having Holmgren say, sorry boss, his agent wants more than I'm willing to spend so I'm just gonna let him go.

Perhaps he could have gotten a slightly more favorable deal, but either way Bryz was coming to Philly whether Holmgren liked it or not.
- BiggE

we don't know to what extent eds directive was to homer, but if you want to acquire a plyr there's a right way to do it and that wasn't it.

No but he was forced to go out and deal for Bryzgalov's rights. Once you do that, you are almost always going to overpay. I don't believe Ed Snider would have been ok with just trading for his rights and then having Holmgren say, sorry boss, his agent wants more than I'm willing to spend so I'm just gonna let him go.

Perhaps he could have gotten a slightly more favorable deal, but either way Bryz was coming to Philly whether Holmgren liked it or not.
- BiggE

Truthfully? I don't think Holmgren liked it at all. It was his staff that went out and found Sergei Bobrovsky. They turned that kid up.

Paul Holmgren is not afraid of young players. He would've let Bobrovsky start for the next few seasons as the No. 1, coming off a 28-13-8 season. I absolutely believe that.

And if anybody thinks Paul Holmgren would've traded Bobrovsky if he had known there would be compliance buyouts the next year, you just hate Paul Holmgren just for the hell of it.

true, but that doesn't prevent him from using vokoun to drive down bryzs price
- isaiah520

bryz was considered the top goalie in the market at the time. Getting Vokun would have been going after the perceived lesser goalie, which wouldn't have met snider's demands. It would be like the beezer situation all over again. Only this time, in retrospect, Vokun would have been the more sensible choice.
Could you imagine throwing Bryz' contract at Vokun though? Nobody saw his contract coming when he signed with washington.

Paajarvi sounds a little too much like Zherdev to me
- 77rams

Wow, don't confuse youth and trying to find your role/style as a player (Paajarvi) with lack of effort and off-ice problems (Zherdev).

I'm screwed on the 5th, its our anniversary.
At least she's beautiful and after 21 years of marriage, still my best friend so I really can't complain!
- BiggE

Congratulations -- 21 years is awesome!

Truthfully? I don't think Holmgren liked it at all. It was his staff that went out and found Sergei Bobrovsky. They turned that kid up.

Paul Holmgren is not afraid of young players. He would've let Bobrovsky start for the next few seasons as the No. 1, coming off a 28-13-8 season. I absolutely believe that.

And if anybody thinks Paul Holmgren would've traded Bobrovsky if he had known there would be compliance buyouts the next year, you just hate Paul Holmgren just for the hell of it.
- AllInForFlyers

absolutely agree. THey scouted Bob all year prior to signing him. He came over, and played well right from the start. Lavy handled him terribly, and caused snider to go out and say "no more goalie carousel".
Bob was brought in to be the goalie of the future, not the quick fix.

Dreger just said on nhl network that holmgren has 2 trades. 7 and 4th round from edmonton or the 5th from Carolina
- phatpat44

Hold up.

The Hurrycanes wanna trade the 5th overall pick for Coburn?!

We have to be including the #11, right?

Gotta be more in that
- nonpoint22

I hope they don't wait until tomorrow during the draft to do these deals.
But that is exactly what will happen

Coburn + 11th = Carolina's #5 pick?
Is that what is proposed?
- Marc D

No, just coburn.

Hold up.

The Hurrycanes wanna trade the 5th overall pick for Coburn?!

We have to be including the #11, right?
- Giroux_Is_God

Obviously...

No, just coburn.
- phatpat44

I will pack his bags and carry him and his family on my back if he can get that for coburn.... Nikushkin and Risto would be a crazy haul!

Wow, don't confuse youth and trying to find your role/style as a player (Paajarvi) with lack of effort and off-ice problems (Zherdev).
- PhillySteen

Unless it's one of Hall, Eberle, or Schultz, I really don't want ANYONE from Edmonton. Just keep Coburn and draft the player you think will best help this team at #11.

Congratulations -- 21 years is awesome!
- AllInForFlyers

Thanks!

People on here are far under valuing Coburn and have for a while. He is a very solid defenseman. Bob McKenzie had him on team Canada for Sochi last summer. I do think #5 is an overpayment by Carolina, but hey

If we get any young forward with potential for coburnthat should all but kill the Bob Ryan rumors
- nonpoint22

Bobby = to much $$$, Flyers need to some how use cheep and effective players for the next three years and hope the cap jumps so they can keep a young core for years of deep runs.

Wow, don't confuse youth and trying to find your role/style as a player (Paajarvi) with lack of effort and off-ice problems (Zherdev).
- PhillySteen

It was the "good flashes..better if moved" that caught my attention. The "flashes" I can attribute to a youngster finding his way. The needing to be "moved" frighted me. Why would you need to be moved to play in the NHL?

People on here are far under valuing Coburn and have for a while. He is a very solid defenseman. Bob McKenzie had him on team Canada for Sochi last summer. I do think #5 is an overpayment by Carolina, but hey
- phatpat44

If this draft is as deep as they say, and only has 4-5 top players, I don't see the need to move up 4 spots.