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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:14 PM ET
I've been here since about page 20. You're assuming that because I didn't say anything that I wasn't reading. That's a piss poor conclusion to draw up. It's not hard catching up on 20 pages.
- buffalofan19

You're assuming I care, that's your first mistake.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:15 PM ET
It shows how old you are when you have to resort to the name calling as you did.
- SABRES 89


Really, ask me if I care.- SABRES89

Aww you do CARE. I'm sorry bud
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:15 PM ET
I can understand 89's frustration with Darcy.

Clutterbuck starts off he day going to The Isles. Why not the Sabres?

You see your arch rival pick a player like Bolland. Why not the Sabres?

I like the 2 D they selected in the 1st (and like the Bailey selection).

But our GM will never make that bold move (ex - NJ Lou grab's their goalie of the future).

What is he asking for for these guys:
Stafford
Miller
Vanek?


Terry Pegula "What has Darcy done wrong"
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jun 30 @ 8:17 PM ET
If Darcy uses Vanek to add to our top 6,
- RayHatesDomi

Vanek is in our top 6.
Our top 1 really.
But let's trade away a scoring winger that plays injured over 50% off the season after serving as an oak tree for opposing goalies and defensemen.
I'd like to keep one of the better scoring wingers in the league that we developed thank you very much.
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 30 @ 8:18 PM ET
Tyler Myers - 6-8
Jake McCabe - 6-2
Brayden McNabb - 6-5
Mark Pysyk - 6-1
Chad Ruhwedel 5-11
Jerome Gauthier-Leduc - 6-2
Rasmus Ristolainlen - 6-4
Nikita Zadorov - 6-5
Ehrhoff 6-2
Weber 6-2
Sekera 6-0
Pardy 6-4
Sulzer 6-1

Damn good size on the blueline for years to come
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:18 PM ET
I can understand 89's frustration with Darcy.

Clutterbuck starts off he day going to The Isles. Why not the Sabres?

You see your arch rival pick a player like Bolland. Why not the Sabres?

I like the 2 D they selected in the 1st (and like the Bailey selection).

But our GM will never make that bold move (ex - NJ Lou grab's there goalie of the future).

What is he asking for for these guys:
Stafford
Miller
Vanek?


Terry Pegula "What has Darcy done wrong"

- Irish 14


Because we can't trade for everyone in the league.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:18 PM ET
Really, ask me if I care.- SABRES89

Aww you do CARE. I'm sorry bud

- Cheeseballin

You know something, whether I agree with what the Sabres are doing or not doing doesn't make me right or wrong, just like if people agree with me or don't agree with me doesn't make them right or wrong. Matter of opinion and my opinions sometimes don't mesh with others, once again not it's a not a right or wrong thing.
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 30 @ 8:19 PM ET
I can understand 89's frustration with Darcy.

Clutterbuck starts off he day going to The Isles. Why not the Sabres?

You see your arch rival pick a player like Bolland. Why not the Sabres?

I like the 2 D they selected in the 1st (and like the Bailey selection).

But our GM will never make that bold move (ex - NJ Lou grab's there goalie of the future).

What is he asking for for these guys:
Stafford
Miller
Vanek?


Terry Pegula "What has Darcy done wrong"

- Irish 14


Agreed on Bolland. Would have loved to see him here as I said yesterday

But with Ott, Kaleta and Foligno, there isnt much need for Clutterbuck
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:19 PM ET
Tyler Myers - 6-8
Jake McCabe - 6-2
Brayden McNabb - 6-5
Mark Pysyk - 6-1
Chad Ruhwedel 5-11
Jerome Gauthier-Leduc - 6-2
Rasmus Ristolainlen - 6-4
Nikita Zadorov - 6-5
Ehrhoff 6-2
Weber 6-2
Sekera 6-0
Pardy 6-4
Sulzer 6-1

Damn good size on the blueline for years to come

- CaptPantalones


Agree Capt

But who scores the goals up front?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 30 @ 8:20 PM ET
You know something, whether I agree with what the Sabres are doing or not doing doesn't make me right or wrong, just like if people agree with me or don't agree with me doesn't make them right or wrong. Matter of opinion and my opinions sometimes don't mesh with others, once again not it's a not a right or wrong thing.
- SABRES 89

Agreed.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:20 PM ET
Because we can't trade for everyone in the league.
- Cheeseballin


? Elaborate
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jun 30 @ 8:20 PM ET
Agree Capt

But who scores the goals up front?

- Irish 14

We need those guys to protect Miller from getting scored on.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:21 PM ET
I can understand 89's frustration with Darcy.

Clutterbuck starts off he day going to The Isles. Why not the Sabres?

You see your arch rival pick a player like Bolland. Why not the Sabres?

I like the 2 D they selected in the 1st (and like the Bailey selection).

But our GM will never make that bold move (NJ Lou grab's there goalie of the future).

What is he asking for for these guys:
Stafford
Miller
Vanek?


Terry Pegula "What has Darcy done wrong"

- Irish 14



Clutterbuck: not a difference maker

Bolland: not a difference maker on a rebuilding team, and has only one year left on his contract. The only way he stays long term is if the Sabres overpay him.

Schneider: not worth the first round pick if you're rebuilding.

I am as firmly on the "Darcy Regier needs to get out of here" train as anyone, but I don't find myself really upset that Regier didn't make any of those moves. There's a longer list of prior year offenses that come way before anything that happened today.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:21 PM ET
Here is why I dont like the draft.
To me to win the cup you need elite forwards. Look at Chicago Toews Kane,Sharp Hossa Bickell Boston Kreji Marchand Lucic Bergeron. Guys killing themselves to win a cup. To me our only elite forward is vanek and he in my opinion will be traded.
This draft was compared to 2003 draft by many experts not me. There are multiple cup winners and many dif. making forwards that came from that draft.
We chose 2 def. who might be good but got us nowhere closer to getting the elite forwards to win a cup. If Vanek is traded our most established scorer is Drew Stafford. Nathan Gerby is a top 6 forward. I want to win the cup so I no I am a negative Nelly who knows nothing about hockey. So i am sorry.

- hafgod


Hodgson, Ennis, Grigorenko, Girgensons, Armia...
All 1st round picks
All very young and getting better

Plus, we are going to draft very high the next two seasons

Chicago also has Seabrook & Keith
Boston has Chara

Before today, we really didn't have any physical "shutdown" defensemen that could play big minutes
Now we have two!
And that's also very necessary for most cup winning teams
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:22 PM ET
Paul Hamilton said McBain will be playing in Rochester. The Sabres just wanted the pick.
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:22 PM ET
Here is why I dont like the draft.
To me to win the cup you need elite forwards. Look at Chicago Toews Kane,Sharp Hossa Bickell Boston Kreji Marchand Lucic Bergeron. Guys killing themselves to win a cup. To me our only elite forward is vanek and he in my opinion will be traded.
This draft was compared to 2003 draft by many experts not me. There are multiple cup winners and many dif. making forwards that came from that draft.
We chose 2 def. who might be good but got us nowhere closer to getting the elite forwards to win a cup. If Vanek is traded our most established scorer is Drew Stafford. Nathan Gerby is a top 6 forward. I want to win the cup so I no I am a negative Nelly who knows nothing about hockey. So i am sorry.

- hafgod


IMO, Boston didn't win their cup because of their forwards, they won it because of their defence and Chicago has one of the best defenses in the league but i get what your saying.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:22 PM ET
Tyler Myers - 6-8
Jake McCabe - 6-2
Brayden McNabb - 6-5
Mark Pysyk - 6-1
Chad Ruhwedel 5-11
Jerome Gauthier-Leduc - 6-2
Rasmus Ristolainlen - 6-4
Nikita Zadorov - 6-5
Ehrhoff 6-2
Weber 6-2
Sekera 6-0
Pardy 6-4
Sulzer 6-1

Damn good size on the blueline for years to come

- CaptPantalones


I have a feeling Pardy and Sulzer will not be re-signed.
hafgod
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:22 PM ET
Tyler Myers - 6-8
Jake McCabe - 6-2
Brayden McNabb - 6-5
Mark Pysyk - 6-1
Chad Ruhwedel 5-11
Jerome Gauthier-Leduc - 6-2
Rasmus Ristolainlen - 6-4
Nikita Zadorov - 6-5
Ehrhoff 6-2
Weber 6-2
Sekera 6-0
Pardy 6-4
Sulzer 6-1

Damn good size on the blueline for years to come

- CaptPantalones

Def is ok capt. How can we compete for the cup with zero upfront.
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:22 PM ET
? Elaborate
- Irish 14


Too many variables go into trading. Why trade for Clutterbuck with Tropp, girgensons, larrson waiting in the wings. Same with Bolland. Bolland, Clutterbuck are great 3rd line guys, but 3rd line isn't our problem.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:23 PM ET
Paul Hamilton said McBain will be playing in Rochester. The Sabres just wanted the pick.
- sippyd


That doesn't make too much sense. He's only 25. There's no way he'd clear waivers.
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:23 PM ET
We need those guys to protect Miller from getting scored on.
- cabin

Going to win games 1-0, 2-1?
dacks
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jun 30 @ 8:23 PM ET
Here is why I dont like the draft.
To me to win the cup you need elite forwards. Look at Chicago Toews Kane,Sharp Hossa Bickell Boston Kreji Marchand Lucic Bergeron. Guys killing themselves to win a cup. To me our only elite forward is vanek and he in my opinion will be traded.
This draft was compared to 2003 draft by many experts not me. There are multiple cup winners and many dif. making forwards that came from that draft.
We chose 2 def. who might be good but got us nowhere closer to getting the elite forwards to win a cup. If Vanek is traded our most established scorer is Drew Stafford. Nathan Gerby is a top 6 forward. I want to win the cup so I no I am a negative Nelly who knows nothing about hockey. So i am sorry.

- hafgod



Fair enough. You list a wide range of forwards you consider "elite."

One might objectively argue that Toews, Kane, and Bergeron are the only elite forwards in that group. Nonetheless, all of them are talented and bring a different element to their respective lineups.

I have no problem w/ your assumption that good forwards are the way to build a team, but after watching our D this year leave Miller out to dry on a nightly basis, I have absolutely no problem whatsoever w/ Darcy trying to shore up the back-end. One might argue it was Chara, Seabrook and Keith who were just as important to their team's respective success down the run too. When the cupboard is bare on both ends, I guess it doesn;t matter where one starts to restock from.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:23 PM ET
Paul Hamilton said McBain will be playing in Rochester. The Sabres just wanted the pick.
- sippyd

That's hard to believe I thought he was a good D man, wow.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 30 @ 8:24 PM ET
Tyler Myers - 6-8
Jake McCabe - 6-2
Brayden McNabb - 6-5
Mark Pysyk - 6-1
Chad Ruhwedel 5-11
Jerome Gauthier-Leduc - 6-2
Rasmus Ristolainlen - 6-4
Nikita Zadorov - 6-5
Ehrhoff 6-2
Weber 6-2
Sekera 6-0
Pardy 6-4
Sulzer 6-1

Damn good size on the blueline for years to come

- CaptPantalones


Good size but the inclusion of Gauthier-Leduc needs to stop. He is not a NHL defensemen. Pardy won't be here. I wouldn't mind Sulzer being back here though. The first round was the fix the blue line. Next two years get scoring and lots of it
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 30 @ 8:24 PM ET
Agreed on Bolland. Would have loved to see him here as I said yesterday

But with Ott, Kaleta and Foligno, there isnt much need for Clutterbuck

- CaptPantalones

I would have liked Clutterbuck, but not for what it cost, a former top 5 pick that still hasnt had a chance yet.
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