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awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 1 @ 7:01 AM ET
Oh, I guess yesterday was better than I thought. Jeremy White just said we got Jamie Benn from Carolina for Sekera. Not sure how the Canes got him.
- Pierceme69

He must be playing NHL 13's Be a GM mode again.
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:06 AM ET
Oh, I guess yesterday was better than I thought. Jeremy White just said we got Jamie Benn from Carolina for Sekera. Not sure how the Canes got him.
- Pierceme69



Not bad, not bad. I thought we were going to get Malkin from the Bruins too, but I'll take Jamie Benn.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:11 AM ET


Not bad, not bad. I thought we were going to get Malkin from the Bruins too, but I'll take Jamie Benn.

- keptupl8

Speaking of Jamie Benn, I would think that a line of Loui Eriksson, Benn, and Nichushkin will be beast.
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:13 AM ET
I'm really looking forward to Friday. But not because I think we are going to load up on talent. Yesterday proved that the youth movement is here. They are not building a team for this season or next. They are looking at 3-5 years down the road.

So why am I looking forward to Friday? I'm looking forward to people losing their minds when other teams grab UFAs. Why didn't we get that guy?

I'm looking forward to people losing their minds when Darcy signs a few plugs to 1-2 year deals to round out the roster.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:17 AM ET
I'm really looking forward to Friday. But not because I think we are going to load up on talent. Yesterday proved that the youth movement is here. They are not building a team for this season or next. They are looking at 3-5 years down the road.

So why am I looking forward to Friday? I'm looking forward to people losing their minds when other teams grab UFAs. Why didn't we get that guy?

I'm looking forward to people losing their minds when Darcy signs a few plugs to 1-2 year deals to round out the roster.

- keptupl8

You said plugs. ha ha
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:18 AM ET
Speaking of Jamie Benn, I would think that a line of Loui Eriksson, Benn, and Nichushkin will be beast.
- Pierceme69

Could be. I have a bit of experience watching their new head coach, so I'm not so sure.

There's a good chance they will be coached to play defense first. They might be forced to play the coaches system instead of making the best of their abilities. Also, that coach doesn't have a great history of developing young Russians. He most likely wouldn't be trusted with the responsibility of playing on that line. If he were, it wouldn't last. He would be relegated to the 4th line, then the press box.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:21 AM ET
Could be. I have a bit of experience watching their new head coach, so I'm not so sure.

There's a good chance they will be coached to play defense first. They might be forced to play the coaches system instead of making the best of their abilities. Also, that coach doesn't have a great history of developing young Russians. He most likely wouldn't be trusted with the responsibility of playing on that line. If he were, it wouldn't last. He would be relegated to the 4th line, then the press box.

- keptupl8

Maybe, but Nill isn't Darcy.
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 1 @ 7:21 AM ET
Could be. I have a bit of experience watching their new head coach, so I'm not so sure.

There's a good chance they will be coached to play defense first. They might be forced to play the coaches system instead of making the best of their abilities. Also, that coach doesn't have a great history of developing young Russians. He most likely wouldn't be trusted with the responsibility of playing on that line. If he were, it wouldn't last. He would be relegated to the 4th line, then the press box.

- keptupl8

Nichushkin could score a hat-trick and still get benched for turning the puck over and getting scored on.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:27 AM ET
Nichushkin could score a hat-trick and still get benched for turning the puck over and getting scored on.
- awildmudkip

keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:28 AM ET
Maybe, but Nill isn't Darcy.
- Pierceme69

I really think Dallas is a good fit for Lindy. He has experience coaching a team on a budget. I give him a lot of credit for carrying on through the lean years here.
billyk
Buffalo Sabres
Location: always lurking, seldom posting, NY
Joined: 09.03.2006

Jul 1 @ 7:30 AM ET

my problem with yesterday is all off season we have been told that we have to lose to get "elite " talent at the top of the draft and then Darcy rejects a trade that would have gotten us to #5 pick

it's the smoke and mirrors double talk that Darcy has become known for

say one thing, do another , keep people around him confused


my judgement is probably clouded by my hatred for what Darcy has done to this organization in his tenure
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:31 AM ET
So did I read this right? The Hurricanes were willing to trade the 5th pick for Sekera and the 8th pick but the Sabres wound up trading Sekera for the 32nd pick? So does'nt that mean that Darcy screwed that one up?
billyk
Buffalo Sabres
Location: always lurking, seldom posting, NY
Joined: 09.03.2006

Jul 1 @ 7:32 AM ET
I really think Dallas is a good fit for Lindy. He has experience coaching a team on a budget. I give him a lot of credit for carrying on through the lean years here.
- keptupl8


i also think his vision matches up with Nils and it seems the better teams the coach and Gm are usually on the same page
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 1 @ 7:34 AM ET
my problem with yesterday is all off season we have been told that we have to lose to get "elite " talent at the top of the draft and then Darcy rejects a trade that would have gotten us to #5 pick

it's the smoke and mirrors double talk that Darcy has become known for

say one thing, do another , keep people around him confused


my judgement is probably clouded by my hatred for what Darcy has done to this organization in his tenure

- billyk

Don't most, if not, all GMs do that? My guess is they had 2 players locked in at #8, Lindholm or Ristolainen. They got their guy without having to trade up, not only that, got a roster bottom 3 D and a 2nd round pick for Sekera.

Worth.
Jacob582
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jul 1 @ 7:35 AM ET
my problem with yesterday is all off season we have been told that we have to lose to get "elite " talent at the top of the draft and then Darcy rejects a trade that would have gotten us to #5 pick

it's the smoke and mirrors double talk that Darcy has become known for

say one thing, do another , keep people around him confused


my judgement is probably clouded by my hatred for what Darcy has done to this organization in his tenure

- billyk


Nobody said we have to lose.
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 1 @ 7:35 AM ET
So did I read this right? The Hurricanes were willing to trade the 5th pick for Sekera and the 8th pick but the Sabres wound up trading Sekera for the 32nd pick? So does'nt that mean that Darcy screwed that one up?
- rapperray

The point is they drafted an extra player, rather than moving up only 3 spots when they couldn't go wrong with Ristolainen.
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:38 AM ET
So did I read this right? The Hurricanes were willing to trade the 5th pick for Sekera and the 8th pick but the Sabres wound up trading Sekera for the 32nd pick? So does'nt that mean that Darcy screwed that one up?
- rapperray

I don't think so. If the plan was to go defense, we would have taken the same guy at 5 that we got at 8. Instead they got a guy who could immediately take Sekera's minutes in McBain (probably won't) plus a pick that turned into a pretty intriguing prospect.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:38 AM ET
So did I read this right? The Hurricanes were willing to trade the 5th pick for Sekera and the 8th pick but the Sabres wound up trading Sekera for the 32nd pick? So does'nt that mean that Darcy screwed that one up?
- rapperray

They got the 32nd pick without giving up the 35th and they got a 25-year-old defenseman as well.
jc-13
Joined: 08.04.2012

Jul 1 @ 7:39 AM ET
Just about every non-buffalo fan has Buffalo as the best team at the draft. Its always our own fans that hate the organization more than anyone else.

Here's a discussion on who won and lost at the draft: http://hfboards.hockeysfu.../showthread.php?t=1458559

Check and see if there's a trend of what people think about Buffalo. It might be a nice surprise.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:40 AM ET
I don't think so. If the plan was to go defense, we would have taken the same guy at 5 that we got at 8. Instead they got a guy who could immediately take Sekera's minutes in McBain plus a pick that turned into a pretty intriguing prospect.
- keptupl8

I still would have rather drafted #5 and taken Lindholm.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:42 AM ET
So did I read this right? The Hurricanes were willing to trade the 5th pick for Sekera and the 8th pick but the Sabres wound up trading Sekera for the 32nd pick? So does'nt that mean that Darcy screwed that one up?
- rapperray


He chose getting 4 players instead of two. Whatever. Darcy has marginal decsion making capabilities when it comes to the draft so don't assume it would have been elite talent he would have chosen.
I definately don't assume these "big tough D" will amount to anything.
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 1 @ 7:43 AM ET
He chose getting 4 players instead of two. Whatever. Darcy has marginal decsion making capabilities when it comes to the draft so don't assume it would have been elite talent he would have chosen.
I definately don't assume these "big tough D" will amount to anything.

- RynoBull

"big tough D" like Keith and Seabrook never amounted to anything either, am I right?
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jul 1 @ 7:43 AM ET
Just about every non-buffalo fan has Buffalo as the best team at the draft. Its always our own fans that hate the organization more than anyone else.

Here's a discussion on who won and lost at the draft: http://hfboards.hockeysfu.../showthread.php?t=1458559

Check and see if there's a trend of what people think about Buffalo. It might be a nice surprise.

- jc-13

I don't think most people who are unhappy think we drafted bad players. The point is when your best RW is Drew Stafford and you have the chance to draft a 6'4" 210 lb. locomotive RW and you take a safe defensive player instead it tends to rub people the wrong way.
awildmudkip
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 1 @ 7:48 AM ET
I don't think most people who are unhappy think we drafted bad players. The point is when your best RW is Drew Stafford and you have the chance to draft a 6'4" 210 lb. locomotive RW and you take a safe defensive player instead it tends to rub people the wrong way.
- Pierceme69

No worries. Next year we'll draft Anton Karlsson.
billyk
Buffalo Sabres
Location: always lurking, seldom posting, NY
Joined: 09.03.2006

Jul 1 @ 7:49 AM ET
Don't most, if not, all GMs do that? My guess is they had 2 players locked in at #8, Lindholm or Ristolainen. They got their guy without having to trade up, not only that, got a roster bottom 3 D and a 2nd round pick for Sekera.

Worth.

- awildmudkip


no most GM's are pretty clear about the direction the team is taking, and if they are continuely changing the teams direction they aren't usually employed very long

again Darcy saiid for 3 weeks he wanted to move up in this draft and when the opportunity was there to move up he didn't
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