Again, 38 yrs and counting. What do you see the Flyers doing right to win a cup. You need skill, not just being huge and tough. Pulock shows great open ice hits. PP quarterback. Cannon shot, and he is the captain of his team.
- bushhunter

Nothing. You're right. That pick at 11 is going to keep the Flyers from ever winning the Cup. At pick 15 in 2013 the New York Islanders have cemented a run of Stanley Cups a mile long.

I've given up all hope. They should just fold this team before Morin doesn't develop and drags the Flyers back to the worst record in the NHL so they can lose the draft lottery to one of the other also-rans eating Islander dust. Good, now I can forget all about the Flyers and troll the web as a miserable, butt-hurt, absurdity whining ninny.

I'm very content with the flyers picks yesterday, good stuff.

Looking ahead now.

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Lecavalier-Simmonds
Gagne-Couturier-Read
Rosehill-Talbot-Rinldo

Timonen-Schenn
Streit-Coburn
Grossman-Gustafsson

Mason
Emery

Cup contender and my dream roster after friday

For some reason I think this kid has IT. He has a skill set of what we need. I would like them to wait a year and try and trade for him.
- bushhunter

We should trade Morin for him

Again, 38 yrs and counting. What do you see the Flyers doing right to win a cup. You need skill, not just being huge and tough. Pulock shows great open ice hits. PP quarterback. Cannon shot, and he is the captain of his team.
- bushhunter

Morin is actually a very good puck mover with a good slap shot. But sure, I guess you don't actually need to know anything about a prospect to assume he's bad. Plus, Hagg doesn't even need to reach his full potential to be a solid PP quarterback, PK specialist, and ES guy. But ya, I get it. This has obviously been the worst draft the Flyers have ever had and we as an organization are with a doubt doomed solely because of Homer.

I think the most important thing is that the Flyers had a better draft than the Pens, Rags and Devils
- PhillySportsGuy

Devils win. Get their new young franchise goalie and draft Steve Santini.

Islanders win. Ryan Pulock and add Clutterbuck while dumping Nino's 2.8m cap tragedy.

Pens win. Draft a solid goalie prospect Tristan Jarry to replace Flower and took a pair of defensemen in later rounds

Rags lose. Didnt pick til 65th. but they are already stacked so not a huge deal.

For some reason I think this kid has IT. He has a skill set of what we need. I would like them to wait a year and try and trade for him.
- bushhunter

i think Pullock will be good. seems like a fired up leader type. and i also think, like you said, he'll have an impact with the isles sooner than Morin will with the Flyers.

I just believe Morin is just scratching the surface of his potential and im glad they picked him.

I'm very content with the flyers picks yesterday, good stuff.

Looking ahead now.

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Lecavalier-Simmonds
Gagne-Couturier-Read
Rosehill-Talbot-Rinldo

Timonen-Schenn
Streit-Coburn
Grossman-Gustafsson

Mason
Emery

Cup contender and my dream roster after friday
- dingo8urbaby

I'm not a huge lecavalier fan. I feel like they can do better with the amount it will cost to get him. #2 center over the next 4 years isn't really a major need for this team

I'm very content with the flyers picks yesterday, good stuff.

Looking ahead now.

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Lecavalier-Simmonds
Gagne-Couturier-Read
Rosehill-Talbot-Rinldo

Timonen-Schenn
Streit-Coburn
Grossman-Gustafsson

Mason
Emery

Cup contender and my dream roster after friday
- dingo8urbaby

I wouldn't put money on Ek being right about Philly leading the race for Vinny, but I do really like that roster

Flyers don't always draft the same kinds of players. Giroux, Carter, gagne, Sbisa, Justin Williams are all known more as skilled players than gritty ones
- PhillySportsGuy

They are all offensive except Sbisa and he hasn't lit the world on fire.
Rumor was, the Flyers wanted K. Shttenkirk, well Pulock looks like the same player tome, only bigger. Why not draft him???

I'm very content with the flyers picks yesterday, good stuff.

Looking ahead now.



Cup contender and my dream roster after friday
- dingo8urbaby

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Lecavalier-Jagr
Gagne-Couturier-Simmonds
Not Rosehill-Talbot-Rinldo

Timonen-Schenn
Streit-Defender traded for Read and Coburn
Grossman-Gustafsson

Thomas
Mason

Nothing. You're right. That pick at 11 is going to keep the Flyers from ever winning the Cup. At pick 15 in 2013 the New York Islanders have cemented a run of Stanley Cups a mile long.

I've given up all hope. They should just fold this team before Morin doesn't develop and drags the Flyers back to the worst record in the NHL so they can lose the draft lottery to one of the other also-rans eating Islander dust. Good, now I can forget all about the Flyers and troll the web as a miserable, butt-hurt, absurdity whining ninny.
- mayorofangrytown

+1

Devils win. Get their new young franchise goalie and draft Steve Santini.

Islanders win. Clutterbuck and Ryan Pulock

Pens win. Draft a solid goalie prospect Tristan Jarry to replace Flower and took a pair of defensemen in later rounds

Rags lose. Didnt pick til 65th. but they are already stacked so not a huge deal.
- MrBigglesworth

You would rather have the guys the Pens drafted than the guys the Flyers drafted?

They are all offensive except Sbisa and he hasn't lit the world on fire.
Rumor was, the Flyers wanted K. Shttenkirk, well Pulock looks like the same player tome, only bigger. Why not draft him???
- bushhunter

If you're looking for defense they took Richards, Laughton and Coots. Not to mention Williams, gagne, carter and giroux are all pretty good two way forwards.

Horvat went high because of Vancouver's need for a 2 way center. It was a desperation pick, and they got robbed of Schneider IMO.
- youarewrong

Common, just admit youwerewrong.

They are all offensive except Sbisa and he hasn't lit the world on fire.
Rumor was, the Flyers wanted K. Shttenkirk, well Pulock looks like the same player tome, only bigger. Why not draft him???
- bushhunter

Because they think Morin is better.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
Flyers 2013-14 HealthyScratch

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Bobby Ryan ($5.100m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Viktor Stalberg ($1.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Scott Laughton ($1.107m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Andrew Ference ($2.500m)
Erik Gustafsson ($1.000m) /

GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
Ray Emery ($1.750m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,324,594; BONUSES: $2,350,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $1,325,406


-Traded Couturier plus picks (or whatever) for Ryan
-Traded Mesz for anything
-Signed LeCavalier, Stalberg, Ference, and Emery
-Profit

Devils win. Get their new young franchise goalie and draft Steve Santini.

Islanders win. Clutterbuck and Ryan Pulock

Pens win. Draft a solid goalie prospect Tristan Jarry to replace Flower and took a pair of defensemen in later rounds

Rags lose. Didnt pick til 65th. but they are already stacked so not a huge deal.
- MrBigglesworth

Devils also extended Zubrus, so good for them. Still, is Schneider going to a better team in the Devils than he was on in Vancouver?

Clutterbuck is a good grit player, but I'm not sure he's going to push the Isles into a top 4 in the East ranking.

Unless Jarry plays this upcoming season, which he won't, the Pens are stuck with Flower for a while longer unless they make some trades.

It will be interesting to see what the Rangers become w/out Torts.

Morin is actually a very good puck mover with a good slap shot. But sure, I guess you don't actually need to know anything about a prospect to assume he's bad. Plus, Hagg doesn't even need to reach his full potential to be a solid PP quarterback, PK specialist, and ES guy. But ya, I get it. This has obviously been the worst draft the Flyers have ever had and we as an organization are with a doubt doomed solely because of Homer.
- JAKEw1234

I didn't say it was the worst draft, I only think Pulock was better for our needs. As I just posted, The rumor was the Flyers wanted K. Sattenkirk, well they could have drafted him in R. Pulock and Pulock is bigger and meaner.

were you drafted by the nba?
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Valid point that my analogy may have been flawed. However it does not change the fact that certain skillsets do not just magically appear out of thin air based on hard work. Genetics has a considerable amount to do with it, and you can't teach it or work harder on it.

You would rather have the guys the Pens drafted than the guys the Flyers drafted?
- PhillySportsGuy

never said that at all. after sleeping on it, I'm very pleased with our draft. not sure about that 3rd round scrapper but who knows

From mid term until draft day all of those defensive prospects moved around like spilled marbles on a trampoline. It's all just opinion. It doesn't matter where he was ranked. All that mattered was the Flyers had him at 11 as the BPA and they took him. They held the pick so they had the only opinion that counted.
- mayorofangrytown

I feel like some people are just playing "defender". "Flyers know best." Guess what... Sometimes they don't, and yesterdays draft was frustrating. Even Bill seems like he is holding back. The whole "dont want to judge until.." To me that is, I dont like it now, but only time will tell....

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
Flyers 2013-14 HealthyScratch

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Bobby Ryan ($5.100m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Viktor Stalberg ($1.500m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Scott Laughton ($1.107m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)

DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Andrew Ference ($2.500m)
Erik Gustafsson ($1.000m) /

GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
Ray Emery ($1.750m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,324,594; BONUSES: $2,350,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $1,325,406


-Traded Couturier plus picks (or whatever) for Ryan
-Traded Mesz for anything
-Signed LeCavalier, Stalberg, Ference, and Emery
-Profit
- Winning

No way I trade Coots for Ryan. Ference and stalberg are not signing for those numbers. Those moves will also make it diffcult to re-sign read

No way I trade Coots for Ryan. Ference and stalberg are not signing for those numbers. Those moves will also make it diffcult to re-sign read
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm going to let you in on a little secret



























This is Matt Reads last season in Orange and Black. With the cap rising next year, Read will command 4mill

I think the most important thing is that the Flyers had a better draft than the Pens, Rags and Devils
- PhillySportsGuy

Ha Ha. Only cause non of them had any picks.....

I didn't say it was the worst draft, I only think Pulock was better for our needs. As I just posted, The rumor was the Flyers wanted K. Sattenkirk, well they could have drafted him in R. Pulock and Pulock is bigger and meaner.
- bushhunter

Yeah, drafting a defenseman that is 3-5 years away from making an impact to fill an immediate need makes a lot of sense...