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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:40 PM ET
Was that the summer of Josh Harding, too?
- Tomahawk

Yeah, Josh Harding too. It was the summer we got Ray Emery instead then lost him and went to the finals.

So we need to find a KHL reclaimation project this summer. What about that dude that was playing in front of Bryzgalov? He was a Caps pick. Let's get him.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:40 PM ET
please no Thomas
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:41 PM ET

- Tomahawk


i take no responsibility for anything i posted on that thread.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:41 PM ET
No, there's your goalie.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Not me. I'm waiting for the Isle to buy out Dipietro.
fudd1689
Boston Bruins
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 09.27.2010

Jul 1 @ 4:41 PM ET
please no Thomas
- Crimsoninja


Send one wingnut packing, bring another one in to replace him
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:42 PM ET
Keep these posts comin they're really interesting
- JAKEw1234


When did people start to believe Ghost had a good chance to make the NHL at some point. It seemed like he was picked in the third round then the next day he was a steal
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:42 PM ET
McKenzie just tweeted that Tim Thomas will explore his options in making a NHL comeback.

There's your goalie

- Jsaquella


garth snow tolls for thee....
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:43 PM ET
Just because Morin was high on thier draft board, doesn't mean they couldn't get him or a similiar player 4-5 picks down, while picking up another pick. Like I said, I think it would have been possible to trade down and Pick one of Morin, Pullock, or Zadorov. Then trade what you get plus the 41 and get Shinkaruk or Furcale.

I was completely against trading down, but as soon as you couldn't get Nashville, Carolina, or Edmonton off thier pick and Nichushkin was off the board....

I think what happened is they thought Nichushkin was going to drop to 11, and when he didn't and Ristolinian was gone, they played "eni, mini, miney, morin. Dont pick pullock by the tow...."

- youarewrong


If they traded down to 15, and Montreal traded up to 12, then they wouldn't have gotten Morin, now, would they?

What happened is, they knew that Morin was the best player left on their board, knew at least one other team was trying to trade up and get him, so they drafted him.

Yes, they could likely have gotten a similar player had they moved down, but obviously they had Morin ahead of the "similar" players.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:44 PM ET
That's not happening. We're getting Ellis like everyone wanted three years ago.
- mayorofangrytown


i thought was ersberg from LA?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:44 PM ET
please no Thomas
- Crimsoninja


Can you imagine the ridiculous questions our media would ask him.

Serivalli: So how does your political thinking effect your goaltending?
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Jul 1 @ 4:46 PM ET
Vinny, Thomas, Gagne/Jagr

Then one of either Ryan or YAndle acquired through trade.


JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:46 PM ET
Just because Morin was high on thier draft board, doesn't mean they couldn't get him or a similiar player 4-5 picks down, while picking up another pick. Like I said, I think it would have been possible to trade down and Pick one of Morin, Pullock, or Zadorov. Then trade what you get plus the 41 and get Shinkaruk or Furcale.

I was completely against trading down, but as soon as you couldn't get Nashville, Carolina, or Edmonton off thier pick and Nichushkin was off the board....

I think what happened is they thought Nichushkin was going to drop to 11, and when he didn't and Ristolinian was gone, they played "eni, mini, miney, morin. Dont pick pullock by the tow...."

- youarewrong

They had a list of players organized, and when Morin was their BAP, they picked him. They've been following him all year. Obviously they really believe in him. Drafting down and getting a "similar" player doesn't get your Morin, and Morin is the guy they believe in. I'm gonna support their choice until it doesn't pan out, then we can complain.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:46 PM ET


I think what happened is they thought Nichushkin was going to drop to 11, and when he didn't and Ristolinian was gone, they played "eni, mini, miney, morin. Dont pick pullock by the tow...."

- youarewrong

are you serious?
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 1 @ 4:46 PM ET
If they traded down to 15, and Montreal traded up to 12, then they wouldn't have gotten Morin, now, would they?

What happened is, they knew that Morin was the best player left on their board, knew at least one other team was trying to trade up and get him, so they drafted him.

Yes, they could likely have gotten a similar player had they moved down, but obviously they had Morin ahead of the "similar" players.

- Jsaquella


Do you know in jail they make you wear Kool-Aid on your lips like lip-stick? Just sayin.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:47 PM ET
Can you imagine the ridiculous questions our media would ask him.

Serivalli: So how does your political thinking effect your goaltending?

- PhillySportsGuy


it would certainly stir up another poopstorm in net, even if just for 1 or 2 years. would love ONE (frank)ING YEAR of no goalie drama, manufactured or otherwise. that said, i'd roll with timmay anyway....he's my alma mater. gotta' give UVM some love. and i love that he's a fat scrambly bastard, not a butterfly robot.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:48 PM ET
are you serious?
- Crimsoninja


i miss JVRUserious......
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:48 PM ET
They had a list of players organized, and when Morin was their BAP, they picked him. They've been following him all year. Obviously they really believe in him. Drafting down and getting a "similar" player doesn't get your Morin, and Morin is the guy they believe in. I'm gonna support their choice until it doesn't pan out, then we can complain.
- JAKEw1234


Why can't we complain now and get a jump?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:49 PM ET
are you serious?
- Crimsoninja

Yeah, dude... he soooo meant "toe" there.












seriously.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:51 PM ET
Do you know in jail they make you wear Kool-Aid on your lips like lip-stick? Just sayin.
- youarewrong


What a relevant and well thought out response.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:51 PM ET
Why can't we complain now and get a jump?
- 77rams

Cause it's annoying
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 4:52 PM ET
They had a list of players organized, and when Morin was their BAP, they picked him. They've been following him all year. Obviously they really believe in him. Drafting down and getting a "similar" player doesn't get your Morin, and Morin is the guy they believe in. I'm gonna support their choice until it doesn't pan out, then we can complain.
- JAKEw1234

"We had quite a few calls to move down," Holmgren said. "We had identified two or three players and Samuel [Morin] was one of them. Once we knew he was going to be there, we had no intention of moving back."


http://www.philly.com/phi..._big_moves_will_wait.html
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 4:53 PM ET
In all fairness I rag on every damn team in every blog on this god forsaken sight. Except for Detroit. I have nothing to say about them
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:53 PM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer 17m

With Schneider going to NJ, Luongo staying in Vancouver and Bob staying in Columbus, I think the odds of Flyers signing Tim Thomas increased
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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:54 PM ET
In all fairness I rag on every damn team in every blog on this god forsaken sight. Except for Detroit. I have nothing to say about them
- Just5

They're just so damn lovable
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:54 PM ET
it would certainly stir up another poopstorm in net, even if just for 1 or 2 years. would love ONE (frank)ING YEAR of no goalie drama, manufactured or otherwise. that said, i'd roll with timmay anyway....he's my alma mater. gotta' give UVM some love. and i love that he's a fat scrambly bastard, not a butterfly robot.
- hammarby31


Thomas is a guy with a Vezina and a Conn Sythe, and who put up great numbers for a stretch of years.

He's not may favorite guy, because I feel that his public statements and actions created an issue in the room that was a distraction for the Bruins the year after they won the Stanley Cup.

But, if he just comes in and plays, I'm onboard. He's not a bigger risk than a guy like Ellis or Emery, and he wouldn't cost assets to acquire, like Halak or Hillier
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