Yes to a top 10 pick in Philly?
- youarewrong

I think the Flyers want to give Schenn one more chance to take the #2 center role. Once he's moved to wing, his value goes down substantially.

Can you guys see a secenario in which Giroux would move to Vinny's wing?

Hartnell-Lecavalier-Giroux
Schenn-Couturier-Voracek
Gagne-Laughton-Simmonds
McGinn-Talbot-Rinaldo

Read and Coby moved for a top D-man.
- youarewrong

Absolutely not. No chance.

I'd be down with that but wouldn't mind them going after a more seasoned backup netminder - Johan Hedberg and the like? Cheaper cap hit than a Tim Thomas and his facebook pages as well as keeping the status quo of Mason holding the reins in the crease for Philly moving forward.
- Pixote Andolini

you can find a better backup than Hedberg

I think the Flyers want to give Schenn one more chance to take the #2 center role. Once he's moved to wing, his value goes down substantially.
- PhillySportsGuy

Moving Schenn to the Wing would not affect his value as a trade peice in any way.

Moving Schenn to the Wing would not affect his value as a trade peice in any way.
- MJL

Centers are more valuable than wingers.

Centers are more valuable than wingers.
- PhillySportsGuy

Teams still know he can play center and wing. Flexibility.

Centers are more valuable than wingers.
- PhillySportsGuy

He would then be a guy who could play either center or wing.

Teams still know he can play center and wing. Flexibility.
- stveshdy

I think he will look more like a player who failed at center and had to move to wing.

I would rather have him start the year at center and see if he can produce. If the season is halfway over and he hasn;t taken the reigns then i'm all for it.

Centers are more valuable than wingers.
- PhillySportsGuy

So once the Flyers play Schenn at Wing, he can never be moved back to the Center position?

Ok, so from the input I got here is my final roster . Leaves plenty of cap space and I think it would be a serious contender.

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)

Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($5.000m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)

Matt Read ($0.900m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Simon Gagne ($2.500m)

Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Tye McGinn ($0.775m)

Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)

Andrew Ference ($3.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)

Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)

Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) /

GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
Tim Thomas ($3.000m)

CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,007,073

I think he will look more like a player who failed at center and had to move to wing.

I would rather have him start the year at center and see if he can produce. If the season is halfway over and he hasn;t taken the reigns then i'm all for it.
- PhillySportsGuy

NHL GM's wouldn't look at it that way.

Ok, so from the input I got here is my final roster . Leaves plenty of cap space and I think it would be a serious contender.

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)

Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($5.000m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)

Matt Read ($0.900m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Simon Gagne ($2.500m)

Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Tye McGinn ($0.775m)

Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)

Andrew Ference ($3.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)

Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)

Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) /

GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
Tim Thomas ($3.000m)

CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,007,073
- Jimmygrazz

Gustafsson and Laughton are pretty much locks to make the team. Unless they're traded.

Ok, so from the input I got here is my final roster . Leaves plenty of cap space and I think it would be a serious contender.

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)

Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($5.000m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)

Matt Read ($0.900m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Simon Gagne ($2.500m)

Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Tye McGinn ($0.775m)

Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)

Andrew Ference ($3.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)

Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)

Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) /

GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
Tim Thomas ($3.000m)

CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,007,073
- Jimmygrazz

What's the deal with Ference? The Flyers even looking at him?

What's the deal with Ference? The Flyers even looking at him?
- stveshdy

No. He's only 34. Too young.

Ok, so from the input I got here is my final roster . Leaves plenty of cap space and I think it would be a serious contender.

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)

Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($5.000m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)

Matt Read ($0.900m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Simon Gagne ($2.500m)

Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Tye McGinn ($0.775m)

Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)

Andrew Ference ($3.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)

Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)

Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) /

GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
Tim Thomas ($3.000m)

CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,007,073
- Jimmygrazz

Why sign Ference? Grossmann is too good to come off the bench. Might as well just keep MAB as your 7th and save the money for the trade deadline.

Ok, so from the input I got here is my final roster . Leaves plenty of cap space and I think it would be a serious contender.

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)

Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($5.000m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)

Matt Read ($0.900m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Simon Gagne ($2.500m)

Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Tye McGinn ($0.775m)

Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)

Andrew Ference ($3.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)

Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m)

Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) /

GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
Tim Thomas ($3.000m)

CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,007,073
- Jimmygrazz

Seems about right. Fitting this into the cap really shouldn't be a challenge. With vinny on board. The flyers will have some tough decisions to make about the future after this year. Their not scared of that.

Bring me vinny except of he's demanding a full NMC

I think he will look more like a player who failed at center and had to move to wing.

I would rather have him start the year at center and see if he can produce. If the season is halfway over and he hasn;t taken the reigns then i'm all for it.
- PhillySportsGuy

I think it would come across more as he wasn't the best center option for the Flyers, than he outright failed at center. But that's just me.

Why would Edmonton do that if they didn't want to trade the 7th pick straight up for him
- PhillySportsGuy

because their draft is a joke...their blue line is in dire need of a shutdown defender.

Gustafsson and Laughton are pretty much locks to make the team. Unless they're traded.
- MJL

Gus is on there. Laughton I would send back to juniors for one more year

Thomas or Nabokov is what I expect. Think Emery resigns with the Hawks.
- stveshdy

I was thinking they brought raanta in to replace Emory and guys like cimaglia implied that was the case, but apparently not.

No. He's only 34. Too young.
- PLindbergh31

Don't get it at all. The Flyers don't need Ference.

I think he will look more like a player who failed at center and had to move to wing.

I would rather have him start the year at center and see if he can produce. If the season is halfway over and he hasn;t taken the reigns then i'm all for it.
- PhillySportsGuy

I would see it as a young guy that was moved to make room for an all-star center. I would see it as a young guy that was too good to move in the bottom 6 center spot, so they moved him to wing... how about that?

NHL GM's wouldn't look at it that way.
- MJL

It depends what kind of year he has. If he breaks out playing wing, then it won't matter.

I would see it as a young guy that was moved to make room for an all-star center. I would see it as a young guy that was too good to move in the bottom 6 center spot, so they moved him to wing... how about that?
- youarewrong

Vinny is not an all star center anymore. I think many people on this board are remembering him from a long time ago.

Don't get it at all. The Flyers don't need Ference.
- stveshdy

Counting on Grossmann and Meszaros to be healthy is fools gold. They have to have a contingency plan.