how about we keep couts instead
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Cause we have some pretty gaping team needs?

if a couts trade is A THING i am not a happy camper
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Amended for accuracy

Cause we have some pretty gaping team needs?
- JAKEw1234

i have a hard time seeing a trade for value actually occuring so i'm not into it

Cause we have some pretty gaping team needs?
- JAKEw1234

do you see any team trading a young top pair defenseman for Couts?
no one trades these guys away

The Flyers don't really have any other huge holes (if its true they are going with Emery and Mason in goal).

i have a hard time seeing a trade for value actually occuring so i'm not into it
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Sorry you think Couturier couldn't return good value? If so that's actually laughable.

Cause we have some pretty gaping team needs?
- JAKEw1234

Actually, they don't, if the coach utilizes the roster on hand intelligently.

I think Laughton gives them a way to replace Couturier if they need to make a trade
- Jsaquella

I'd rather trade Laughton. Tired of hearing Couturier's name in trade rumors. He fell into our laps and we're going to give up in him faster than JVR?

Sorry you think Couturier couldn't return good value? If so that's actually laughable.
- JAKEw1234

They'll get a good player, but they won't get a 24 year old all star caliber defenseman who might have a Norris in his future for Couturier

I'd rather trade Laughton. Tired of hearing Couturier's name in trade rumors. He fell into our laps and we're going to give up in him faster than JVR?


- Flyskippy

Not pushing for it, just saying it opens the door

Cause we have some pretty gaping team needs?
- JAKEw1234

Which opens another one -- defensive center that can score.

They weigh it on several factors, one being, does sending an extra year in juniors benefit him more than playing in the NHL? Laughton doesn't have a lot to prove at the OHL level, so is it better for him to play 20+ a night in a league where he can dominate or to get 10-13 minutes a night in a league where he will have to learn and work his tail off to stick?
- Jsaquella

The thing is, he hasn't dominated, he's played well but no where near domination. Domination is what Coots or Giroux did.

I think he's better of playing that extra year in the OHL, Boone Jenner is gone (i think) and Laughton gets that number 1 center role he hasn't had and improve those offensive skills, imo.

Not pushing for it, just saying it opens the door
- Jsaquella

Wasn't singling you out. I know you're not proposing that. It's other people who are ringing that clanging cymbal.

Actually, they don't, if the coach utilizes the roster on hand intelligently.
- Jsaquella

+1

Which opens another one -- defensive center that can score.
- Flyskippy

(Scott Laughton)

The thing is, he hasn't dominated, he's played well but no where near domination. Domination is what Coots or Giroux did.

I think he's better of playing that extra year in the OHL, Boone Jenner is gone (i think) and Laughton gets that number 1 center role he hasn't had and improve those offensive skills, imo.
- Yosimar89

Didn't say he dominated, said that he can dominate. I have zero issue if they keep him in juniors. But they have to decide if he'll be better served by playing at the NHL level.

I'd rather trade Laughton. Tired of hearing Couturier's name in trade rumors. He fell into our laps and we're going to give up in him faster than JVR?


- Flyskippy

I agree but coots would fetch the return we want Laughton will not

getting tense in here..

I'd rather trade Laughton. Tired of hearing Couturier's name in trade rumors. He fell into our laps and we're going to give up in him faster than JVR?


- Flyskippy

I would too, but obviously Coots has the highest value of the two.

getting tense in here..
- Crimsoninja

I see OJ man...he looks upset

(Scott Laughton)
- JAKEw1234

Laughton's offensive game as the same stage in their careers is a lot less developed than Coots and people are knocking coots for not scoring enough...

They'll get a good player, but they won't get a 24 year old all star caliber defenseman who might have a Norris in his future for Couturier
- Jsaquella

Well first of all it'd probably have to be similar to Coots, who's potential is a 1st line center with Selke nominee defensive skills, but he just hasn't proven that yet. It'd be a 20 to 22 year old guy who's in the NHL but hasn't proven himself as that yet. Think Brodin or Hamilton or the likes. I would say Hamilton is untradeable, but seeing as Boston just traded Seguin, and Boston has 2 OTHER young defenseman proving themselves to be awesome, I'd say it's entirely possible he's not totally untouchable. I don't think Coots straight up would get it, but I don't think we'd have to add BSchenn or anything else major like that for it to go.

getting tense in here..
- Crimsoninja

poop is about to hit the fan very soon...

Laughton's offensive game as the same stage in their careers is a lot less developed than Coots and people are knocking coots for not scoring enough...
- Yosimar89

Right we're talking long-term here.

Well first of all it'd probably have to be similar to Coots, who's potential is a 1st line center with Selke nominee defensive skills, but he just hasn't proven that yet. It'd be a 20 to 22 year old guy who's in the NHL but hasn't proven himself as that yet. Think Brodin or Hamilton or the likes. I would say Hamilton is untradeable, but seeing as Boston just traded Seguin, and Boston has 2 OTHER young defenseman proving themselves to be awesome, I'd say it's entirely possible he's not totally untouchable. I don't think Coots straight up would get it, but I don't think we'd have to add BSchenn or anything else major like that for it to go.
- JAKEw1234

And Boston just got another def prospect today in Joe Morrow from Seguin trade.

Actually, they don't, if the coach utilizes the roster on hand intelligently.
- Jsaquella

No I meant long term needs. We need someone to replace Kimmo when he retires. And actually ya that's the only "gaping" need. I shouldn't have said needs.