I'd suggest trading a franchise starting goalie and gutting the coaching staff counts...

And fielding offers for a core defenseman...
- Fosco

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler Kassian
Higgins Schroeder Hansen

I was hoping for a little bit of a different top nine considering the team hasn't been able to score for three playoff years.

and a great draft
- A_SteamingLombardi

That too.

I guess it all depends on what your definition of a "reset" is...

All these "re-" words are open to interpretation—reset, rebuild, retool...

IMO, the things I listed could already be considered a mild reset, especially with an entirely new coaching staff/system.

The movement of another core piece, and a few more additions from that trade of UFA would make it a fairly substantial reset.

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler Kassian
Higgins Schroeder Hansen

I was hoping for a little bit of a different top nine considering the team hasn't been able to score for three playoff years.
- LeftCoaster

Yes, true.

And like I said in my above post, unless another core player is moved it's at the most a mild reset, but it's not like some considerable changes haven't been made.

If they don't move another core piece for top6 help, than you just have to hope one of the prospects or young guys takes a huge step this season.

Something tells me if 2 of those other players insisted on playing together, they wouldn't have gotten the same cap hit they were given.

Making a commitment to the doppelgangers is much different than giving two separate contracts to two individuals.
- DrChristianTroy

If you need 2 top line players it doesn't matter if they come as a package or if you have to sign them individually. On the open market they would have gotten way more. Don't forget how few top line players the Leafs had back then (or now...)!

The fact that Gagner is familiar with Akim Aliu is more likely a detractor than anything else. He was lazy and arrogant back in his days with the Knights. Unless someone knows a lot more than I do and can vouch for a big change in attitude I would be very much against signing him.

If you need 2 top line players it doesn't matter if they come as a package or if you have to sign them individually. On the open market they would have gotten way more. Don't forget how few top line players the Leafs had back then (or now...)!
- KB3Point0

It matters. Let's say for whatever reason, it doesn't work out... Two Sedins with NMC/NTC's are immovable with their combined cap hit. You need an exit strategy for every commitment you make in this league, or you end up with what we've witnessed here with Luongo. IMO the only way you can offer full market value to a two-for package is if they don't get NMC/NTC's.

Not even sure we will make the playoffs this year - so much for the reset.
- docmorgan

If Oilers get Clarkson and a good Dman they could pass us and same with the AVs now too .We are declining year to year. If we start out slow I would start trading from the D out. I don't think anyone is taking our goalie.

Really I don't think 6.1 X 2 was below market.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I wouldn't wast 12.1 on any center , but Canucks do.

Something tells me if 2 of those other players insisted on playing together, they wouldn't have gotten the same cap hit they were given.

Making a commitment to the doppelgangers is much different than giving two separate contracts to two individuals.
- DrChristianTroy

This is absolutely true but can you separate 2 players that have played together since childhood and know each others tendencies inside and out? Teams will never find that kind of chemistry putting two star players who have never played an NHL game together.

That too.

I guess it all depends on what your definition of a "reset" is...

All these "re-" words are open to interpretation—reset, rebuild, retool...

IMO, the things I listed could already be considered a mild reset, especially with an entirely new coaching staff/system.

The movement of another core piece, and a few more additions from that trade of UFA would make it a fairly substantial reset.
- Fosco

Ya reset is a wierd word, it could mean many things, to me the new coaching staff will bring enough changes to be a reset, another trade of a core piece would be a retool and if that doesn't work then rebuild is the new word. Trade the twins at the trade deadline, Bieksa and anyone else. Make Kes the capitain and bring on the youth.

It matters. Let's say for whatever reason, it doesn't work out... Two Sedins with NMC/NTC's are immovable with their combined cap hit. You need an exit strategy for every commitment you make in this league, or you end up with what we've witnessed here with Luongo. IMO the only way you can offer full market value to a two-for package is if they don't get NMC/NTC's.
- DrChristianTroy

Right or wrong, I think that we've seen plenty of evidence recently that most GMs don't think about exit strategies when they sign players.

Right or wrong, I think that we've seen plenty of evidence recently that most GMs don't think about exit strategies when they sign players.
- KB3Point0

rofl

confirmed!

and neither do some owners!

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler Kassian
Higgins Schroeder Hansen

I was hoping for a little bit of a different top nine considering the team hasn't been able to score for three playoff years.
- LeftCoaster

This is a draft lottery line up

If Oilers get Clarkson and a good Dman they could pass us and same with the AVs now too .We are declining year to year. If we start out slow I would start trading from the D out. I don't think anyone is taking our goalie.
- VANTEL

Have you looked at the Oilers' roster recently? It's horrible.

The Avs roster sucks too, but they aren't in our division anymore.

This is a draft lottery line up
- VANTEL

They essentially played last regular season without Booth or Kesler, yet adding them will make the team worse?

Right or wrong, I think that we've seen plenty of evidence recently that most GMs don't think about exit strategies when they sign players.
- KB3Point0

I honesty can't understand what is wrong with these idiots they keep making the same mistakes over and over.

Right or wrong, I think that we've seen plenty of evidence recently that most GMs don't think about exit strategies when they sign players.
- KB3Point0

I'm not talking about "most GM's" though... I'm talking about how sh!t should be dealt with here. You can't manage your team based on the idiocy of other GMs.

They essentially played last regular season without Booth or Kesler, yet adding them will make the team worse?
- KB3Point0

Pessimism at its finest.

I don't understand why people set the bar so low. Maybe because if they get into the playoffs, they've exceeded expectations?

This team will challenge for the cup again soon, so stop trippin'.

Ya reset is a wierd word, it could mean many things, to me the new coaching staff will bring enough changes to be a reset, another trade of a core piece would be a retool and if that doesn't work then rebuild is the new word. Trade the twins at the trade deadline, Bieksa and anyone else. Make Kes the capitain and bring on the youth.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Well rebuild and retool have already been used so maybe MG was trying to be original?

They essentially played last regular season without Booth or Kesler, yet adding them will make the team worse?
- KB3Point0

Sorry their combined 20 healthy games will make us a scoring machine

Pessimism at its finest.

I don't understand why people set the bar so low. Maybe because if they get into the playoffs, they've exceeded expectations?

This team will challenge for the cup again soon, so stop trippin'.
- Gullzy

Can't speak for everyone but I'm disappointed that nothing has been done to improve secondary scoring. It isn't reassuring at this point going in to the next season with virtually no player personnel changes. Of course that might change but not sure how given cap restraints.

Have you looked at the Oilers' roster recently? It's horrible.

The Avs roster sucks too, but they aren't in our division anymore.
- KB3Point0

They will score more than us and be tougher . They are on the way up and we are declining

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Booth Kesler Kassian
Higgins Schroeder Hansen

I was hoping for a little bit of a different top nine considering the team hasn't been able to score for three playoff years.
- LeftCoaster

I think Gillis will go after a a depth 3rd liner in free agency. If Booth can stay healthy and if Schroeder has improved this offseason then it's a decent line up.

Here are the players with comparable cap hits to the Sedins when they signed their extensions:
Cammalleri, Kariya, Elias, Giguere, Rafalski, goalie Backstrom, Zetterberg (12 year deal), Smyth, Miller, Pronger (signed 4 years earlier), Marleau.

The Sedins were far better than most of these players.

Guys with bigger cap hits included:
Jovanovski, Briere, Redden, Phaneuf, Stastny, Boyle, JBo.

Guys at over $7M included:
E. Staal, B. Richards, Heatley, Gaborik Gomez, Campbell, Vanek, Drury, Spezza, Iginla.


They left A LOT of money on the table by re-signing in Vancouver.
- KB3Point0

The twins signe those deals before they were 100 point, art ross / hart trophy winners. There are plenty of just as good or better players, who have signed before and after the Sedins did for similar money. Could they have gotten more from another team? Certainly, but what is lost on you is that EVERY player who has ever re-signed with their existing team could likely have gotten more on the open market.

Can't speak for everyone but I'm disappointed that nothing has been done to improve secondary scoring. It isn't reassuring at this point going in to the next season with virtually no player personnel changes. Of course that might change but not sure how given cap restraints.
- docmorgan

Everyone is so worried about the cap. Other teams with less cap room than the Canucks are adding impact players. $7.5 million is a lot of cap space.