Wouldn't it be cool if a gm that was fired or retired wrote a book detailing trades that were discussed or how trade went down and things of that nature.
- SMS4016

Yeah...it kinda why I enjoyed Moneyball...didnt think it was a great movie but it was cool to see GM's discussing trade

Just curious... Would anyone trade coots for Seth jones straight up?

Just curious... Would anyone trade coots for Seth jones straight up?
- SMS4016

Nashville wouldn't so it's moot.

we've suffered thru the growing pains of couts and schenn and it would be lousy if we traded them only to watch them blossom elsewhere. if the trade was for the ever elusive young dman however, it would be almost unanimously hailed on this board.

maybe homer is hoping for a fast start by one of those guys to make a trade mid season, when their value is higher. the flyers are not a cup contender until they get that plyr.

Just curious... Would anyone trade coots for Seth jones straight up?
- SMS4016

I would easily. "No brainer".

Nah. He'll be anchoring the Flyer's 3rd line for the next 5 years, and then the 2nd for five years after that..
- 77rams

Here's a Novel idea. Stop trying to trade Sean Couturier!!

I would easily. "No brainer".
- phillydentist

Weber would probably appreciate the move for offensive potential i'm sure.

I would easily. "No brainer".
- phillydentist

ThAts why I'd consider coots/mez to cal rumor. Personally I think coots is way overrated on hb. If I can trade him to cal and get there #1 plus prospect I'd do it in a heartbeat. Now if we didn't have so much talent at center or so many building blocks already maybe not. But cal might even wind up with top pick. They are going to suck again. Look at this years top 5 picks. Next years draft going to be really good too. Id trade coots for any of this years top 5 players straight up. If we can throw in mez and get good prospect in return I don't understand why some people on here would be sooo opposed to it.

Weber would probably appreciate the move for offensive potential i'm sure.
- the deaninator

Holmgren can find another Couturier with his eyes closed. Can't say the same for any young Dman of quality.

Streit struggles to defend, yea he can move the puck but again this struggles in its own zone. There's nothing moronic about my criticism it points out the weakness of the team and how they conceivably swung and missed again
- JoeRussomanno

There are very few dmen that move the puck well, can qb a pp and defend well too. Most of those guys you can't trade for and when and if they reach free agency, they will cost a fortune.

The Flyers needed another offensive dman. They got arguably the best one on the market without giving up any assets. Would a 3 year deal have been better, of course, but they did as well as they could and I am happy with the signing of Streit.

Its funny how they have arguably the best defenseman in hockey in Weber, and the best prospect for a defenseman in Jones. I am jealous.

Gaudrea, Baertschi, 2014 1st. I like Couturier, but that's tempting.
- jmatchett383

Very tempting since Calgary will most likely suck this year and the 2014 1st should be a top 5 pick.

OR b schenn if cal wanted him instead of coots

ThAts why I'd consider coots/mez to cal rumor. Personally I think coots is way overrated on hb. If I can trade him to cal and get there #1 plus prospect I'd do it in a heartbeat. Now if we didn't have so much talent at center or so many building blocks already maybe not. But cal might even wind up with top pick. They are going to suck again. Look at this years top 5 picks. Next years draft going to be really good too. Id trade coots for any of this years top 5 players straight up. If we can throw in mez and get good prospect in return I don't understand why some people on here would be sooo opposed to it.
- SMS4016

Value-wise, absolutely, I agree with you. I think the Flyers want to win NOW and so they'd want a young good player that can help them now in return.

ThAts why I'd consider coots/mez to cal rumor. Personally I think coots is way overrated on hb. If I can trade him to cal and get there #1 plus prospect I'd do it in a heartbeat. Now if we didn't have so much talent at center or so many building blocks already maybe not. But cal might even wind up with top pick. They are going to suck again. Look at this years top 5 picks. Next years draft going to be really good too. Id trade coots for any of this years top 5 players straight up. If we can throw in mez and get good prospect in return I don't understand why some people on here would be sooo opposed to it.
- SMS4016

I'd like to get their next 2 1sts, even if it means giving up on having Sven in the trade. They'll probably both be lottery picks, and the draft 2 years from now is going to have a generational talent.

ThAts why I'd consider coots/mez to cal rumor. Personally I think coots is way overrated on hb. If I can trade him to cal and get there #1 plus prospect I'd do it in a heartbeat. Now if we didn't have so much talent at center or so many building blocks already maybe not. But cal might even wind up with top pick. They are going to suck again. Look at this years top 5 picks. Next years draft going to be really good too. Id trade coots for any of this years top 5 players straight up. If we can throw in mez and get good prospect in return I don't understand why some people on here would be sooo opposed to it.
- SMS4016

Disregard.

So, by hanging on to Couturier, Schenn, Simmonds, Voracek and Laughton, as well as not trading draft picks and other prospects to fill immediate holes(outside of the 4th rounder for Streit), they're not building for the future and are only worried about the short term?

Honestly, you're entitled to your opinion, but the explanation of that opinion makes little sense to me. You say they're not looking to the future, but they've kept pretty much every young cornerstone type player and avoided trading high picks. So how is it that they're not looking ahead?

The cap will go up, because it's tied to the same revenue system that existed before. In four or five years, the cap could be as high as $80mm, which will means the deals signed today will take up far less cap room.
- Jsaquella

They've added without truly addressing their problems which will IMO force them to make a deal involving these young players and not get full value. In other words with the log jam at center I fully expect holmgren's version of the sharp trade.

ThAts why I'd consider coots/mez to cal rumor. Personally I think coots is way overrated on hb. If I can trade him to cal and get there #1 plus prospect I'd do it in a heartbeat. Now if we didn't have so much talent at center or so many building blocks already maybe not. But cal might even wind up with top pick. They are going to suck again. Look at this years top 5 picks. Next years draft going to be really good too. Id trade coots for any of this years top 5 players straight up. If we can throw in mez and get good prospect in return I don't understand why some people on here would be sooo opposed to it.
- SMS4016

Dont trade for 1st round draft picks until you know what # the pick is and who is on the board. Too big of a gamble.

For the record I'd be fine with Coots+ for Jones tho.

They've added without truly addressing their problems which will IMO force them to make a deal involving these young players and not get full value. In other words with the log jam at center I fully expect holmgren's version of the sharp trade.
- JoeRussomanno

How have they not addressed their needs? As Bill said in THIS BLOG, they added a puck moving dman, a big and skilled 2nd line center, and a goaltender who will give us a strong tandem and challenge Mason to push his abilities. Sure, they haven't gotten that #1 dman we need, but to say they haven't addressed any of their problems is just incorrect.

we've suffered thru the growing pains of couts and schenn and it would be lousy if we traded them only to watch them blossom elsewhere. if the trade was for the ever elusive young dman however, it would be almost unanimously hailed on this board.

maybe homer is hoping for a fast start by one of those guys to make a trade mid season, when their value is higher. the flyers are not a cup contender until they get that plyr.
- isaiah520

I'm cool with that I'm just apprehensive it plays out like that. I see byfuglien or yandle in their future... Good players but again square pegs going into round holes

ThAts why I'd consider coots/mez to cal rumor. Personally I think coots is way overrated on hb. If I can trade him to cal and get there #1 plus prospect I'd do it in a heartbeat. Now if we didn't have so much talent at center or so many building blocks already maybe not. But cal might even wind up with top pick. They are going to suck again. Look at this years top 5 picks. Next years draft going to be really good too. Id trade coots for any of this years top 5 players straight up. If we can throw in mez and get good prospect in return I don't understand why some people on here would be sooo opposed to it.
- SMS4016

If coutorier gets you Sven Baertschi and a pick I'd do it. But that doesn't fit a need. Their defensive prospects are average at best, but the pick could land a top defensive pairing guy. The key is jetisoning Mez's contract. Feaster might be dumb enough to take on mez, but I doubt him giving Baertschi and their no. 1 pick for cooter and mez.

They've added without truly addressing their problems which will IMO force them to make a deal involving these young players and not get full value. In other words with the log jam at center I fully expect holmgren's version of the sharp trade.
- JoeRussomanno

I don't think so. He's hung onto these players despite being tempted. He wasn't willing to deal them both for Weber. I doubt he makes a rash move and trades one for a slight upgrade on defense.

Its funny how they have arguably the best defenseman in hockey in Weber, and the best prospect for a defenseman in Jones. I am jealous.
- mikel33

Their forwards are terrible, though, and they've botched a lot of draft picks (including a lot of dmen) since their inception. Nashville's development system is way overrated... a few notable homeruns surrounded by a sea of mistakes.

Dont trade for 1st round draft picks until you know what # the pick is and who is on the board. Too big of a gamble.

For the record I'd be fine with Coots+ for Jones tho.
- hereticpride

That risk is why cal would have to add pick plus prospect. In case pick wasn't like a top 5. But let's be real. Cal sucks. It's gonna be at least a top 5 if not higher. I'd actually say top 3 is at least 90% likely

If coutorier gets you Sven Baertschi and a pick I'd do it. But that doesn't fit a need. Their defensive prospects are average at best, but the pick could land a top defensive pairing guy. The key is jetisoning Mez's contract. Feaster might be dumb enough to take on mez, but I doubt him giving Baertschi and their no. 1 pick for cooter and mez.
- the deaninator

Morin and Hagg both have top pairing upside