his value is not very high right now. I would be happy with a prospect for the AHL. Anything. Future considerations. We need the space. Not the value.
- Deasr1

Can't limit yourself to what your trading partners are limiting you too. Mez, when healthy is an excellent Dman. Wait until he's healthy and then setup a conditional deal. The good thing about gaining these assets without trading anything is there is no hurry. Homer can be patient.

Still not enough
- JoeRussomanno

according to capgeek it is and thats with Gustaffson signed.

I never read these long cap geek posts they give my vertigo or something.
- JoeRussomanno

x2, Joe

Can't limit yourself to what your trading partners are limiting you too. Mez, when healthy is an excellent Dman. Wait until he's healthy and then setup a conditional deal. The good thing about gaining these assets without trading anything is there is no hurry. Homer can be patient.
- jstross

I wouldn't be surprised if Meszaros got put on waivers

I say wait a couple weeks and call Nashville. Offer Couturier, Coburn, Cousins and 2 1rst for Weber. Trade Mezzy for a prospect. Resign Gagne.


Harts-G-V
Schenn-Vinny-Simmonds
Gagne-Talbot-Read
Zac-Laughton-Hall

Weber-Kimmo
Streit- Grossman
Gus-Luke

Mason
Emery
- Deasr1

Looks like it could potentially work cap-wise.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Simon Gagne ($2.500m) / Matt Read ($0.900m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)
Tye McGinn ($0.775m) / Scott Laughton ($1.107m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Adam Hall ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Shea Weber ($7.857m)
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.851m)
Marc-Andre Bourdon ($0.613m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ray Emery ($1.650m)
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,819,737; BONUSES: $2,350,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,830,263

Not competely against trading Mezzy but trading him for nothing is stupid, when he is healthy he is a good player.
- flyerfan28

We're over the cap. And ideally a team should leave one or two mil open during the season. Somebody has to go.

Trading a player with a sizable caphit on an expiring contract who also is by far the most injury prone player on the team is not a "stupid" move.

according to capgeek it is and thats with Gustaffson signed.
- flyerfan28

According to cap geek it isn't didn't you just see me post it?

Can't limit yourself to what your trading partners are limiting you too. Mez, when healthy is an excellent Dman. Wait until he's healthy and then setup a conditional deal. The good thing about gaining these assets without trading anything is there is no hurry. Homer can be patient.
- jstross

He's not an excellent dman he's above average at best.

I say wait a couple weeks and call Nashville. Offer Couturier, Coburn, Cousins and 2 1rst for Weber. Trade Mezzy for a prospect. Resign Gagne.


Harts-G-V
Schenn-Vinny-Simmonds
Gagne-Talbot-Read
Zac-Laughton-Hall

Weber-Kimmo
Streit- Grossman
Gus-Luke

Mason
Emery
- Deasr1

Nashville wouldnt take that offer and even if they did, still wont work with Wellwood on the team and Gus.

I wouldn't be surprised if Meszaros got put on waivers
- TonyBazz

Then Homer should be fired. Mez is a quality Dman.

Never got an answer on the 10% cushion is it pre-season or regular season?

Looks like it could potentially work cap-wise.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Simon Gagne ($2.500m) / Matt Read ($0.900m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)
Tye McGinn ($0.775m) / Scott Laughton ($1.107m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Adam Hall ($0.600m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Shea Weber ($7.857m)
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.851m)
Marc-Andre Bourdon ($0.613m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ray Emery ($1.650m)
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,819,737; BONUSES: $2,350,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $2,830,263
- JAKEw1234

When healthy, that is a scary team. Even if they wanted the Schenns plus Cousins and the picks, it still works. We would have space for the trade at the deadline for another scoring winger. Just not much to trade with.

According to cap geek it isn't didn't you just see me post it?
- JAKEw1234

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Adam Hall ($0.600m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.594m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Chris Pronger ($4.941m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.851m)
GOALTENDERS
Ray Emery ($1.650m)
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,053,856; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $46,144

Then Homer should be fired. Mez is a quality Dman.

Never got an answer on the 10% cushion is it pre-season or regular season?
- jstross

Pre-season. By opening night, you must be cap compliant. And then LTIR comes into effect. SO you have to be under by opening night.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Adam Hall ($0.600m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.594m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.000m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Chris Pronger ($4.941m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Erik Gustafsson ($0.851m)
GOALTENDERS
Ray Emery ($1.650m)
Steve Mason ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,053,856; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $46,144
- flyerfan28

Having an injured player does not count as having a 13th forward. You need an actual healthy scratch on top of Wellwood in case of injury.

Having an injured player does not count as having a 13th forward. You need an actual healthy scratch on top of Wellwood in case of injury.
- JAKEw1234

Then use LTIR after day one....And why would you need a healthy scratch? Never knew there was a rule for that.

Holmgrem has no problem using LTIR and Im sure he will do it the second he can. The penalties for doing it are greatly exaggerated.

Pre-season. By opening night, you must be cap compliant. And then LTIR comes into effect. SO you have to be under by opening night.
- Deasr1

Ok, so you're saying we're cap compliant at this point until opening day?

Ok, so you're saying we're cap compliant at this point until opening day?
- jstross

At this point as of today no we arent, would have to take for example...leaving Laughton off the roster and waiving Gervais.

At this point as of today no we arent, would have to take for example...leaving Laughton off the roster and waiving Gervais.
- flyerfan28

we're cap compliant at this time because of the 10% allowance. I wanted to know when the 10% allowance ended and the poster said it ends at the start of the regular season.

Then use LTIR after day one....And why would you need a healthy scratch? Never knew there was a rule for that.
- flyerfan28

I don't know if it's a rule, but it's strongly advised. And using LTIR on day one would cause us to add something like $2 or $2.5 on our cap next year.

we're cap compliant at this time because of the 10% allowance. I wanted to know when the 10% allowance ended and the poster said it ends at the start of the regular season.
- jstross

Right so yes you are allowed to go over 10% during summer but before puck drops team has to be at cap. So for now they are ok but will need to make a move within a month or two.

I don't know if it's a rule, but it's strongly advised. And using LTIR on day one would cause us to add something like $2 or $2.5 on our cap next year.
- JAKEw1234

Is that new rule in the new CBA? I have never heard of that.

I wonder if Vancouver would be willing to trade. Read, Couturier, Coburn for Burrows and Bieksa???

Is that new rule in the new CBA? I have never heard of that.
- flyerfan28

Not sure, I remember when we were all talking about it in yesterday's comment board MJL pointed out that LTIR Pronger would have cap repercussions.

I wonder if Vancouver would be willing to trade. Read, Couturier, Coburn for Burrows and Bieksa???
- TonyBazz

Why would we do that?