Hahaha so many untouchables. But you'd think we'd have to give up an untouchable to get one
- howamidointhis

Just like Philly.....its going to take Couturier plus...(plus a lot) and EDM would have to include one of the big 3 (Eberle, Hall or RNH).....The deal is something EDM is in a better position to make.....I think STL fans are dreaming if they think his salary will be under 6.5 mill for 8 years........I think he is looking for 8 year 60 mil + .....This kid though is worth it.

Pietrangelo isn't going anywhere. He'll sign for 8 years @ 6 mill aav. Any offer sheets will be matched, Armstrong has already stated this. Teams like Philly can't give players front loaded contracts anymore with the new CBA. I'm not worried stop trying to create drama where there is none Jeff.
- cuethenoise

He's not taking $6M/year on an 8-year deal. He's a top-5 defenseman, he'll get paid like one. If you know the salary cap is set to rise, and you know what players that you're better than (Letang) are getting paid, then your long-term salary should take into consideration comparables and the expected rise in the cap over the duration of your deal. His salary will start with a $7

Yes.

Also, you can't OS a player for 8 years, you can only sign him for 7. Blues are the only team that can contract Petro for 8 years.
- Antilles

I think Armstrong will def bend his rules about long term contracts for Pie. I really hope they get 8 years even if it cost us 7 mill per.

Maybe with a GM like Homer, Armstrong is the KING of negotiations hence why this is taking so long. He'll sign for 6.5 max.

I think Armstrong will def bend his rules about long term contracts for Pie. I really hope they get 8 years even if it cost us 7 mill per.

Maybe with a GM like Homer, Armstrong is the KING of negotiations hence why this is taking so long. He'll sign for 6.5 max.
- cuethenoise

That deal is a steal for the Blues. The cap will be rising for the duration of that deal, and when he hits his prime if 3-4 years, he'll most likely be getting paid less than players who aren't as good.

Nice blog

Question: Would you consider Brayden Schenn, Matt Read, Braydon Coburn, Robert Hagg and the Flyers 1st in 2014 a fair offer for AP?
- BiggE

No, the Flyers arent suitable trade partners for the Blues/Petro

Also if you are a competing team offering up trades, it will take an elite forward + top 4 dman to do the deal. As one of the deeper teams in the league, the Blues have no room for a grab bag of your castaways. They are also in "win now" mode, so you can keep your picks.
- Taynos

Count me as another that doesn't understand why they haven't signed yet if they would match a deal of 8 years for $60M. The only reason logical is that they are trying to get him on the cheap. Understandable.

The only thing Buffalo could offer would be Myers/Ehrhoff, Vanek, and Grigorenko according to your parameters.

That'd be interesting. Only thing is that the blues would be way too close to the cap (or over) with their salaries and resigning stewart
- drummer829

Eberle nurse smid and a first for AP and Stewart. Let's make the deal

I think Armstrong will def bend his rules about long term contracts for Pie. I really hope they get 8 years even if it cost us 7 mill per.

Maybe with a GM like Homer, Armstrong is the KING of negotiations hence why this is taking so long. He'll sign for 6.5 max.
- cuethenoise

You have to bend the rules with a guy like Petro. The kids only 23, yet is arguably one of the top 3 defenseman in the league. He has only gotten better every year and does it all.

Pietrangelo's market value is between 6.5 and 7million per year

Eberle nurse smid and a first for AP and Stewart. Let's make the deal
- Snagglepuss

Maybe blues through halak in as well

Holmgren is a highly skilled GM. His offer last year to Weber was a situational response in a unique situation. I don't have any doubt he thought the offer sheet would give him some leverage and get Nashville to negotiate a deal. I am sure he did not think that Nashville would never phone. They just got approval from their board and made the match.

Flyer fans who think that it just a matter of putting numbers on a piece of paper are naive. Holmgren needs to know that he has a package that is going to cause Armstrong to at keast want to listen to the offer.

But Holmgren will not risk alienating other GMs by extending offer sheets just to mess up other teams. He is too good at what he does to make that kind of mistake.

As suggested above, Armstrong knows that once he signs Pietrangelo he can offset the salary by moving J.Bo. I am sure there are more GMs inquiring about J.Bo than Pietrangelo. Armstrong does not deal Pietrangelo unless the payment is so strong it becomes an obvious good option to the objective person.

Edler and Kesler.

Kesler and Backes together would be insane while Edler helps replace the lose of Piet, not to mention both players salaries combined would probably equal Piets cap hit.

Would definitly be considered a "win now" move.

Holmgren is a highly skilled GM. His offer last year to Weber was a situational response in a unique situation. I don't have any doubt he thought the offer sheet would give him some leverage and get Nashville to negotiate a deal. I am sure he did not think that Nashville would never phone. They just got approval from their board and made the match.

Flyer fans who think that it just a matter of putting numbers on a piece of paper are naive. Holmgren needs to know that he has a package that is going to cause Armstrong to at keast want to listen to the offer.

But Holmgren will not risk alienating other GMs by extending offer sheets just to mess up other teams. He is too good at what he does to make that kind of mistake.

As suggested above, Armstrong knows that once he signs Pietrangelo he can offset the salary by moving J.Bo. I am sure there are more GMs inquiring about J.Bo than Pietrangelo. Armstrong does not deal Pietrangelo unless the payment is so strong it becomes an obvious good option to the objective person.
- spatso

Holmgren is a highly skilled GM?? Was there any GM who spent more last year and got worse results?

Holmgren is a highly skilled GM?? Was there any GM who spent more last year and got worse results?
- Antilles

So you think the Streit contract is problem?

Eberle nurse smid and a first for AP and Stewart. Let's make the deal
- Snagglepuss

No. Blues would be talking more like

Eberle & Schultz

for

Petro

Eberle nurse smid and a first for AP and Stewart. Let's make the deal
- Snagglepuss

Count me as another that doesn't understand why they haven't signed yet if they would match a deal of 8 years for $60M. The only reason logical is that they are trying to get him on the cheap. Understandable.

The only thing Buffalo could offer would be Myers/Ehrhoff, Vanek, and Grigorenko according to your parameters.
- kingcong39

You don't understand why GM's don't give players contracts they would match as an offer sheet? It's a pretty simple concept. Armstrong isn't willing to agree to overpay Petro himself. If someone else forces him into overpaying Petro, he is willing to up to a certain amount. But being willing to overpay if forced doesn't mean you should overpay without having to.

Eberle and Smid seems like a fare deal for both teams. If they had to they would swap Smid for Petry who is becoming a good rushing D Man. Last year having Whitney on the team was a distraction because Whitney played like crap but took valuable minutes from some of the younger D Men.

So you think the Streit contract is problem?
- madmike71

Nah, it's no big deal, bad contracts like that are why teams have compliance buyouts, I'm sure next year they'll.... oh wait.

Rumor on twitter this morning that he refused a 40 million/6yr deal. He's likely looking for same contract as Letang.

Lets face it, There is really no return that could be equivalent to petros value. The blues are a solid team that really don't need a major trade, just small tweaks. Trading Petro would most likely hurt the blues than help

Edler and Kesler.

Kesler and Backes together would be insane while Edler helps replace the lose of Piet, not to mention both players salaries combined would probably equal Piets cap hit.

Would definitly be considered a "win now" move.
- Whiskey-Tango

click

No. Blues would be talking more like

Eberle & Schultz

for

Petro
- Antilles

Wouldn't trade Schultz because it was a big deal that he chose the Oil when almost every team in the league went after him. To trade him a year later would be very bad optics. The Oil have lots of D prospects who will be good players in a year or so. Plus Schultz is in his lasy year of his contract and I think he is goping to have a big year this year because now he has a year of NHL under his belt. Combined you are looking at 12-13 million a year.

Rumor on twitter this morning that he refused a 40 million/6yr deal. He's likely looking for same contract as Letang.
- TimBits

He's better than Letang. And he's younger. If he's your #1 for the future, just pay the man. Don't go, "Hey Alex, we think you're a Norris-caliber defenseman and we want your here for your career. How's $6.5M sound for 8 years with a cap that's going to increase every year for the length of the deal?" That's a straight-up insult to the man. If I were his agent, I'd tell AP, "The Blues are toying with you, you can get a ton more for a long length from teams willing to spend it." If he's your man, just pay him what he's worth and move on. If not, don't act shocked or surprised when he signs a 7-year offer sheet for $7.5M per.

You don't understand why GM's don't give players contracts they would match as an offer sheet? It's a pretty simple concept. Armstrong isn't willing to agree to overpay Petro himself. If someone else forces him into overpaying Petro, he is willing to up to a certain amount. But being willing to overpay if forced doesn't mean you should overpay without having to.
- Antilles

Clearly you didn't notice where I said understandable on them trying to get him cheaper. Well done.