I would do this trade from Edmonton
Yaks, Smid, Marincin, and a 1st in 2014 for Peterangelo, Halak, and st louis's firat in 2014 or 2015

St louis gets blue chip prospect, top 4 stop gap with reasonable contract, decent D prospect who projects to play one day in the nhl, and probably a top 14 pick in 2014

Edmonton gets a top2 puck mover, a number 1 goalie, and probably a top 25 pick

read this very carefully before you respond...

i know Pietrangelo will re-sign with the Blues. Im just making an offer in which St Louis fans can evaluate and say "ok is this a good deal for Pietrangelo".

What about Couturier, Coburn, Read, 2014 1st for Pietrangelo?
We could also add in Gustaffson/Cousins/Gostisbehere/Hagg/2nd rounder if you want

I would do this trade from Edmonton
Yaks, Smid, Marincin, and a 1st in 2014 for Peterangelo, Halak, and st louis's firat in 2014 or 2015

St louis gets blue chip prospect, top 4 stop gap with reasonable contract, decent D prospect who projects to play one day in the nhl, and probably a top 14 pick in 2014

Edmonton gets a top2 puck mover, a number 1 goalie, and probably a top 25 pick
- Sirfunkyton

There is a -1,000,000% chance that the Blues trade Pietrangelo -AND- a 1st round picks for ANYONE. Maybe for a 19 year old Gretzky...MAYBE.
There is a 0.00001% chance Petro alone gets traded for anyone, and that would only be for a package that included Hall, a top prospect and a #1 pick if the trading partner were EDM. If that were even remotely possible, MacKinnon would have been wearing a Blues hat and shaking Army's hand on draft day and Petro would be a mile high.

read this very carefully before you respond...

i know Pietrangelo will re-sign with the Blues. Im just making an offer in which St Louis fans can evaluate and say "ok is this a good deal for Pietrangelo".

What about Couturier, Coburn, Read, 2014 1st for Pietrangelo?
We could also add in Gustaffson/Cousins/Gostisbehere/Hagg/2nd rounder if you want
- FLYERSROCK!

Blues would want more/different. Read is a third line rental and we are already stacked depth wise at forward. Coots has value, but doesn't make up the massive difference between Coburn and Petro. Coburn is a lefty, we would need a RHD.

read this very carefully before you respond...

i know Pietrangelo will re-sign with the Blues. Im just making an offer in which St Louis fans can evaluate and say "ok is this a good deal for Pietrangelo".

What about Couturier, Coburn, Read, 2014 1st for Pietrangelo?
We could also add in Gustaffson/Cousins/Gostisbehere/Hagg/2nd rounder if you want
- FLYERSROCK!

If it were me, I would want both Schenns instead of Couts and Coburn. I'd probably ask for Laughton, too, but that's just me being greedy.

If it gets a cash strapped team to blow its budget and have to move other assets in order to afford AP then it worked.
- Marshalle

BINGO, WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!
Very useful when trying to Acquire other assets from the team with the hot RFA. Make them pay top dollar to retain current asset and more likely to force movement of other desired assets. CLASSIC negotiating at its best.
As an example, Sabres who have $13m in cap space (before dealing away Millwr $6.5m and Vanek $7m) could employ this tactic to wrestle Stewart away from the Blues as they would not have enough cap space to keep both if Sabres OS Piet at say $8m for 8 years.
Not saying Sabres would as they are "against" OS having been a victim by those sl_ts in Vancover with Vanek.

So your saying the blues ceiling is just under 10 mill? APs agent would be smiling ear to ear if you we're negotiating for the blues.

If the blues would be that adamant about matching almost any offer sheet then that will be used against them in a negotiation.

You just artificially set an extremely high ceiling. That's suicide in any negotiation.

How do you know what Calgary will do?
- acmilano3

Why so serious. You are very angry and yelling at everyone, but YOU are wrong in your assumptions that you claim to be facts through research. Before taking such a hard stance, make sure you are right...it is embarrassing for you else wise.

BINGO, WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!
Very useful when trying to Acquire other assets from the team with the hot RFA. Make them pay top dollar to retain current asset and more likely to force movement of other desired assets. CLASSIC negotiating at its best.
As an example, Sabres who have $13m in cap space (before dealing away Millwr $6.5m and Vanek $7m) could employ this tactic to wrestle Stewart away from the Blues as they would not have enough cap space to keep both if Sabres OS Piet at say $8m for 8 years.
Not saying Sabres would as they are "against" OS having been a victim by those sl_ts in Vancover with Vanek.
- IonSabres

An offer-sheet might force Blues into trading someone. It would not force them into trading a player you wanted, and would not force them to trade that player to you, in fact you could basically guarantee they would not trade the player to you purely to prevent other teams from utilizating the same tactic in the future.

There is a -1,000,000% chance that the Blues trade Pietrangelo -AND- a 1st round picks for ANYONE. Maybe for a 19 year old Gretzky...MAYBE.
There is a 0.00001% chance Petro alone gets traded for anyone, and that would only be for a package that included Hall, a top prospect and a #1 pick if the trading partner were EDM. If that were even remotely possible, MacKinnon would have been wearing a Blues hat and shaking Army's hand on draft day and Petro would be a mile high.
- bluenatic411

Hell of an overpayment, but thatd likely be the asking price from STL. From a purely value perspective, how close would you say is Eberle, Petry, Marincin/Nurse, a 2014 1st, and a 2015 2nd for Pietro?

for all the petro trade proposals.

a number of them look very reasonable. what you've got to realize is that the window is wide open for the blues, management is aware of this, this is why they are even considering spending to the cap. that being said, a grab bag of solid second liners prospects, 3/4 D and picks don't make the team better this year. i could see petro being traded, but the return would have to be an elite forward with a lot left in the tank.

what is the price to acquire stewart?

Hell of an overpayment, but thatd likely be the asking price from STL. From a purely value perspective, how close would you say is Eberle, Petry, Marincin/Nurse, a 2014 1st, and a 2015 2nd for Pietro?
- MaximumBone

Purely hypothetical, but probably fair value or close to it. I have to admit to knowing very little about Petry, but if he would slide in as a solid 2nd pairing RHD (we would slide Shattenkirk to the 1st pairing) then it would probably work out OK. The 1st in 2014 would have to be locked up, not conditional on it not being a lottery pick.

That said, the likelihood of a deal with anyone is razor thin.

what is the price to acquire stewart?
- webleedblue

Good question. STL is in win-now mode, not in re-build mode, so a roster player would likely be preferred. A young LW or C with NHL experience and a reasonable 1st or 2nd line ceiling and a cap hit lower than $3M would be my guess. Our system is jammed with Top 6 RW talent and little behind our NHL roster at C or the left side.

If anyone signs him to an offer sheet, he's likely to get north of $5M AAV so the compensation to let him go would be a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Obviously any offer other than a roster player would have to look better than that or we'd just let him sign an OS and walk away.

Good question. STL is in win-now mode, not in re-build mode, so a roster player would likely be preferred. A young LW or C with NHL experience and a reasonable 1st or 2nd line ceiling and a cap hit lower than $3M would be my guess. Our system is jammed with Top 6 RW talent and little behind our NHL roster at C or the left side.

If anyone signs him to an offer sheet, he's likely to get north of $5M AAV so the compensation to let him go would be a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Obviously any offer other than a roster player would have to look better than that or we'd just let him sign an OS and walk away.
- bluenatic411

a hagelin kinda guy maybe

a hagelin kinda guy maybe
- webleedblue

Not close value wise.

what is the price to acquire stewart?
- webleedblue

The price is going to be an overpayment.

Figure out what is an even deal, and then go above and beyond. That is what it will take to get Stewart.

So it is highly doubtful that he is going anywhere. Armstrong has already come out talking about how him and Roy will be playing together, likely with Steen on the other side.