A bigger Brad Marchand

There's probably a better comparison, but I'm not done my coffee.
- mochoson

I would consider. Brad Marchand a sniper. He scores some pretty big goals.

Meh... nothing about the idea of McGinn on the first line makes me excited.
- Flyersgod

Agreed. He CAN play there, but I don't think that's the best option.

Meh... nothing about the idea of McGinn on the first line makes me excited.
- Flyersgod

And this may not make sense to you or anyone else, but that's exactly why I think it would work beautifully.

This might be the year he shows us something. I've been pretty disappointed with him.
- Flyersgod

A 45 pace for a 21 year old is nothing bad.

I thought Laughton's Junior eligibility was up? When does he turn 20?

And I think McGinn is more than capable of playing with Giroux and Jake. He has the proper skill-set and acumen to fill the role Hartnell had on that line IMO: creating tons of space for Roo and Jake.

I was thoroughly impressed with his cup of coffee this past season. I think it's something that's worth a shot. There have been plenty of lines like this tried in the history of the NHL on many teams that didn't look good on paper, but a coach tried them and it worked amazing.

I think trying McGinn with Giroux and Jake couldn't hurt. He may not pile up 50+ points (although playing with those two, it wouldn't surprise me), but he's gonna do all the little things right to make that line that much better. I'd like to see it at least tried out.

Also means a guy like Hartnell, who has proven in his career to be an effective and legit 1st line player, is now a dangerous piece on a 2nd or 3rd line that most NHL teams can't say they have the luxury of having.
- mochoson

It's questionable if McGinn will ever be a full time NHL player, let alone a first line Winger. I think he has a future as a role player in the NHL. But putting him on the first line is just setting him up for failure. He doesn't beling playing there.

Your premise is taking a legit first line Winger and playing him on the 3rd line. And taking a maybe on any line, and playing him on the first line. Doesn't add up to me.

And this may not make sense to you or anyone else, but that's exactly why I think it would work beautifully.
- mochoson

Just because it doesn't make sense to us it would work beautifully?

i actually always loved simmonds and couturier together

would putting simmonds on the third line with couts and gagne be too risky defensively for a third line?

then read could be on the second line with schenn and lecav
- Don'tForgetTocchet

This

Simmonds and coots do have good chemistry. And putting read with lecavalier gives him the necessary speed to work with on the wing

What do you expect Brayden Schenn to be someday? Please do not say Mike Richards...
- dingo8urbaby

I expect him to fall somewhere in between a slower-footed version of Dustin Brown all the way up to a more physical version of Jamie Benn.

Just because it doesn't make sense to us it would work beautifully?
- JAKEw1234

Put Giroux in net. No one will see it coming!!!

And this may not make sense to you or anyone else, but that's exactly why I think it would work beautifully.
- mochoson

Hey, I love thinking outside the box. If he has the potential to be something more than he is now, playing with Giroux and Vorachek could possibly speed up his development and allow his skill set to grow.

I would consider. Brad Marchand a sniper. He scores some pretty big goals.
- dingo8urbaby

Brayden has that potential for sure. There both very physical players with great skill sets who skate like the wind and pass just as well as they shoot. They have a knack for creating offense.

If Schenn's maxed out potential is a bigger version of Brad Marchand, I'll be ecstatic. I think Marchand is a hell of a player.

The thing I hate is havin revenue sharing and supporting failing teams and allowing them to compete by signing FA's with other teams money.

Nashville was on the verge of bankruptcy but was able to throw almost 30 million at Weber. Bad teams need to fail and move. Crony Capitalism doesn't work, even with hockey teams.
- Flyersgod

I think there needs to be balance. Certain teams need help. If you let teams fail then the big ones will just take over.

There needs to be some balance where teams get a little bit of help. It does bother me that these negative revenue teams exist though.

Takes two to tango, maybe nobody wanted to make that deal. Not that I'm a big fan of that pick.
- BulliesPhan87

There were deals made there. NYR had 3 rd rounders. Probably would have used a lower one to move up considering they were thier first picks. I think the options were there.

A 45 pace for a 21 year old is nothing bad.
- JAKEw1234

It's not great when the defensive element isn't there yet

I expect him to fall somewhere in between a slower-footed version of Dustin Brown all the way up to a more physical version of Jamie Benn.
- Tomahawk

I would settle for that!

It's questionable if McGinn will ever be a full time NHL player, let alone a first line Winger. I think he has a future as a role player in the NHL. But putting him on the first line is just setting him up for failure. He doesn't beling playing there.

Your premise is taking a legit first line Winger and playing him on the 3rd line. And taking a maybe on any line, and playing him on the first line. Doesn't add up to me.
- MJL

I think he's going off the basis that McGinn played the 1st line for stints last year. He didn't look out of place. But he's not accounting for the fact that Tye didn't put up nearly the amount of points you'd expect a 1st liner would put up.

A 45 pace for a 21 year old is nothing bad.
- JAKEw1234

"Pace" can be misleading. The kid makes 3+ a year and career high in points is 26. Hate his contract with a passion.

On the other side of the pace you mentioned:

54 games played : 18 points -7
47 games played : 26 points -8

My premise is that Carbonneau is more deserving, so until he gets in, I don't believe Rod should.
- jmatchett383

Doesn't make a lot of sense. Carbonneau not getting in, doesn't make Brind'Amour undeserving. Brind'Amour was by far the better overall player.

Second session is only a half hour today? Anybody confirm?
- mochoson

2 to 2:30 is what I read.

It's questionable if McGinn will ever be a full time NHL player, let alone a first line Winger. I think he has a future as a role player in the NHL. But putting him on the first line is just setting him up for failure. He doesn't beling playing there.
- MJL

To add some perspective, his brother Jamie is more talented and took 5 full NHL seasons to crack a 3rd-line... it's nice that Tye showed that he can compliment pro scorers this past season, but let's not get ahead of ourselves with him. Unless they want to stunt his development, a power forward like him should be spending another year or two down on the farm.

Brayden has that potential for sure. There both very physical players with great skill sets who skate like the wind and pass just as well as they shoot. They have a knack for creating offense.

If Schenn's maxed out potential is a bigger version of Brad Marchand, I'll be ecstatic. I think Marchand is a hell of a player.
- mochoson

Schenn was a PPG player when Voracek was on his line.

I think they'd probably just give him a few games in preseason to get his feet wet over real season games.
- JAKEw1234

I'd be shocked if he didn't get into four or more preseason games. Same will Haag if he comes to camp this fall.

BSchenn was on pace for 27 points in 82 games in 11-12
BSchenn was on pace for 45 points in 82 games in 12-13

He did progress, even on a team down year.
- JAKEw1234

I'd be extremely disappointed if schenn isn't around 20 g 35 assist this year.

It's not great when the defensive element isn't there yet
- Just5

But the growth is good. Going from a 27 point pace to 45 is pretty good for a young player, and if he continues to grow at that pace (I hope he does), then he could put up a 60-65 point pace this season. Maybe more if he's playing with the great Lecavalier.

Brayden has that potential for sure. There both very physical players with great skill sets who skate like the wind and pass just as well as they shoot. They have a knack for creating offense.
If Schenn's maxed out potential is a bigger version of Brad Marchand, I'll be ecstatic. I think Marchand is a hell of a player.
- mochoson

I agree. Although I feel Schenn is a much more physical player then Brad Marchant. I don't think you'll see as many obvious bone breaking hits as big brother Luke but I think you'll see more open ice momentum changing hits when you least expect them.