Voracek's presence on the point is more because he's an excellent playmaker.
- johndewar

That's a bonus. The meat and potatoes is his shot. Look around the league. Look at all PPs of all teams. In every instance that a team plays a forward on the point, that player is a very hard shooter. Tampa puts Stamkos on the point. Washington puts OV on the point. Philly puts Voracek on the point.

That's a bonus. The meat and potatoes is his shot. Look around the league. Look at all PPs of all teams. In every instance that a team plays a forward on the point, that player is a very hard shooter. Tampa puts Stamkos on the point. Washington puts OV on the point. Philly puts Voracek on the point.
- JAKEw1234

But now that they have Streit and his point shot, they can re-organize the PP if they'd like.

That's a bonus. The meat and potatoes is his shot. Look around the league. Look at all PPs of all teams. In every instance that a team plays a forward on the point, that player is a very hard shooter. Tampa puts Stamkos on the point. Washington puts OV on the point. Philly puts Voracek on the point.
- JAKEw1234

IMO, Voracek is the least important piece of the PP. Thats not to say he does nothing, but I feel Hartnell, Simmonds, Timonen and Giroux do more.

http://video.flyers.nhl.c...tid=616&id=262427&lang=en
- bradleyc4

thank you very much, kind sir!

IMO, Voracek is the least important piece of the PP. Thats not to say he does nothing, but I feel Hartnell, Simmonds, Timonen and Giroux do more.
- PhillySportsGuy

He led the team in PP goals last year...

But now that they have Streit and his point shot, they can re-organize the PP if they'd like.
- bradleyc4

If they put Streit on the top unit, he will replace Timonen. Not sure if they would play both at the same time. It would leave the second unit with Gus, Luke or Mez (If healthy)

IMO, Voracek is the least important piece of the PP. Thats not to say he does nothing, but I feel Hartnell, Simmonds, Timonen and Giroux do more.
- PhillySportsGuy

A year ago I would have agreed. Now I feel after this season Hartnell has become the least important and Voracek very important.

But now that they have Streit and his point shot, they can re-organize the PP if they'd like.
- bradleyc4

But why do it? Our 1st unit has already proven itself to be one of the best PP units in the entire league. Maybe even the best, if I may be so bold. Why change any of that?

Russ Cohen Prospect Camp Notes

McGinn on the first line ahead of Hartnell is ridiculous. McGinn will be lucky to even make the team.
- Feanor

It's not that ridiculous. I don't necessarily disagree he won't make the team strictly due to numbers, but it's not that ridiculous. It means Hartnell gets to play with Vinny or Couturier, making whatever line he's on that much better (if McGinn ends up working their, of course).

With PP time, Hartnell will still be a 15+ minute per night player, if not closer to 18-19.

I don't want a guy like Hartnell being worn down playing possibly 19-20+ minutes every night with his style of play. I want him healthy for the playoffs.

But why do it? Our 1st unit has already proven itself to be one of the best PP units in the entire league. Maybe even the best, if I may be so bold. Why change any of that?
- JAKEw1234

Because you can make it even better, and also make the PP2 better by bumping someone from the first unit to the 2nd.

He led the team in PP goals last year...
- JAKEw1234

I know. It's difficult to explain, but that's the way I feel.

Voracek is not a great shooter and has always been reluctant to shoot. That's always been his greatest weakness.

Because you can make it even better, and also make the PP2 better by bumping someone from the first unit to the 2nd.
- bradleyc4

Voracek was tied for 3rd in the league in PP goals. He had the same number as Stamkos. He had 1 less than Datsyuk, and Ovechkin took 1st. Would you move Stamkos off of your 1st PP? I'm not saying they're equal players, but they scored an equal number of goals last season on the PP. Remember that when you demote him from the 1st unit, you slash his PP time dramatically.

I know. It's difficult to explain, but that's the way I feel.

Voracek is not a great shooter and has always been reluctant to shoot. That's always been his greatest weakness.
- PhillySportsGuy

That was a problem in his 1st season. I remember the commentators of 1 game were even talking about it, and wrote it off as him being polite because he was on a new team, which is something that tends to happen. This season he was much more shoot first. It's how he led the team in goals. Saying Voracek is not a great shooter just isn't correct.

Voracek was tied for 3rd in the league in PP goals. He had the same number as Stamkos. He had 1 less than Datsyuk, and Ovechkin took 1st. Would you move Stamkos off of your 1st PP? I'm not saying they're equal players, but they scored an equal number of goals last season on the PP. Remember that when you demote him from the 1st unit, you slash his PP time dramatically.
- JAKEw1234

Voracek was tied for 3rd in the league in PP goals. He had the same number as Stamkos. He had 1 less than Datsyuk, and Ovechkin took 1st. Would you move Stamkos off of your 1st PP? I'm not saying they're equal players, but they scored an equal number of goals last season on the PP. Remember that when you demote him from the 1st unit, you slash his PP time dramatically.
- JAKEw1234

I would be ok with keeping the same unit. I'm not going to argue with success, but I think putting Voracek on the 2nd unit and Vinny on the first would maximize the potential of both units.

- Flyskippy

Voraceks best PP trait is his shot. Its why they play him on the point and he scores a ridiculous number of goals from up there.
- JAKEw1234

Voracek's greatest strength on the PP is his ability to carry the puck and get the PP set up.

anyone know if we can watch the press conference online? if so, what site? thanks guys!
- flyersfan51

http://www.csnphilly.com/...tsnet-philadelphia-live-1

Voracek was tied for 3rd in the league in PP goals. He had the same number as Stamkos. He had 1 less than Datsyuk, and Ovechkin took 1st. Would you move Stamkos off of your 1st PP? I'm not saying they're equal players, but they scored an equal number of goals last season on the PP. Remember that when you demote him from the 1st unit, you slash his PP time dramatically.
- JAKEw1234

PP output varies greatly from year to year. I don't expect Voracek to be a top-5 pp scorer every year. I have no problem moving him to a different spot on the 1st unit, or the point on the 2nd unit.

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Voracek's greatest strength on the PP is his ability to carry the puck and get the PP set up.
- MJL

I think Voracek is our primary PP scorer, but that doesn't mean those things don't come intp effect as well. His carrying, his passing, and his shooting all come together to make him a beast of a PP guy. I just think we shouldn't be demoting that PP scoring beast to the 2nd unit and cutting his PP time.

That was a problem in his 1st season. I remember the commentators of 1 game were even talking about it, and wrote it off as him being polite because he was on a new team, which is something that tends to happen. This season he was much more shoot first. It's how he led the team in goals. Saying Voracek is not a great shooter just isn't correct.
- JAKEw1234

I just don't think he is a natural goal scorer. I don't think he will ever finish with more goals than assists. He has always been a better passer than shooter. His shooting percentage was way up last year. There is a good chance that will come back down to his norm this year.

PP output varies greatly from year to year. I don't expect Voracek to be a top-5 pp scorer every year. I have no problem moving him to a different spot on the 1st unit, or the point on the 2nd unit.
- bradleyc4

They vary because PP units often don't stay consistent from year to year Your proposal for moving him would be the reason he doesn't produce at the same rate.