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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 9 @ 2:18 PM ET
St Louis, Patrick Sharp
- Richieattack18


Joe Thornton
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:20 PM ET
But why change anything if as a unit our 1st PP could definitely have the highest success rate of any other single unit in the entire league. Only other single unit I could think of that's more successful would be Ovechkins PP in Washington.
- JAKEw1234


I dont think the unit would get worse. I think it would be about the same. The second unit would be a lot better, which would make the team and overall power play better.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:22 PM ET
it's all the trade mez for a bag of peanut talk, isn't it?
- Marc D



that and then bringing up ritchie

makes me sad
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 9 @ 2:22 PM ET
I dont think the unit would get worse. I think it would be about the same. The second unit would be a lot better, which would make the team and overall power play better.
- PhillySportsGuy

If you think it would be the same, and Lecavalier and Voracek serve the same purpose, then why do you want to move Voracek back and cut his PP time?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:25 PM ET
that and then bringing up ritchie

makes me sad

- Don'tForgetTocchet

He and his attitude are kickin' it in LALA Land with his big ring and porn stars.

He never thinks about you anymore.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:28 PM ET
He and his attitude are kickin' it in LALA Land with his big ring and porn stars.

He never thinks about you anymore.

- mayorofangrytown


you're mean
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:29 PM ET
If you think it would be the same, and Lecavalier and Voracek serve the same purpose, then why do you want to move Voracek back and cut his PP time?
- JAKEw1234


They're different players. The PP is designed for Giroux to QB the PP along the left half boards. Timonen is at the point, Hartnell is in the high slot, Simmonds is parked in front of the net and Voracek roams the right side. I think Lecavalier can take Voraceks spot because he is a smart player with a good one timer.

Voracek can then go to the second unit and qb that PP. I think, after Giroux, he is the next most qualified player to QB a PP. The second unit struggled to get settled in the zone and get pucks through. Voracek and Streit will help with both of those things.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:32 PM ET

old city 4 eva
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 9 @ 2:33 PM ET
They're different players. The PP is designed for Giroux to QB the PP along the left half boards. Timonen is at the point, Hartnell is in the high slot, Simmonds is parked in front of the net and Voracek roams the right side. I think Lecavalier can take Voraceks spot because he is a smart player with a good one timer.

Voracek can then go to the second unit and qb that PP. I think, after Giroux, he is the next most qualified player to QB a PP. The second unit struggled to get settled in the zone and get pucks through. Voracek and Streit will help with both of those things.

- PhillySportsGuy

I suppose your right, I just think if we have something that works, and Vinny can also QB a powerplay, that we shouldn't mess with it.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:34 PM ET
No Gustafson? You lie.
- mayorofangrytown

Ollie and Gus
your 2013-14 2nd pair
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:34 PM ET
I suppose your right, I just think if we have something that works, and Vinny can also QB a powerplay, that we shouldn't mess with it.
- JAKEw1234


I don't think Vinny can. I think the second unit would have trouble entering the zone as they did last year.

I think Vinny is a complimentary piece at this point. Voracek is a guy who can make things happen.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:35 PM ET

old city 4 eva

- feelingkettle

is that joffrey?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:35 PM ET

old city 4 eva

WHo is that?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 9 @ 2:35 PM ET
I don't think Vinny can. I think the second unit would have trouble entering the zone as they did last year.

I think Vinny is a complimentary piece at this point. Voracek is a guy who can make things happen.

- PhillySportsGuy

But how do you know? Voracek doesn't actually QB a PP.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:35 PM ET
is that joffrey?
- Marc D


Thats what I thought. I can't wait to get my ESPN THE BODY ISSUE!
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:36 PM ET
is that joffrey?
- Marc D

feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:37 PM ET
What about your body would surprise us?
JL: Hockey players are known to have big asses; it's tough to find pants that fit. I don't need custom-made pants, though there are certain brands that fit better. And I have to do a couple of deep squats in my jeans before I wear them out or they won't look quite right.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:37 PM ET
But how do you know? Voracek doesn't actually QB a PP.
- JAKEw1234


I think one of the most important things for the PP is zone entry. Voracek is very good at that. With Streits shot and ability to get the puck through, they will score goals if they have extended PP time in the zone.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 9 @ 2:38 PM ET
What about your body would surprise us?
JL: Hockey players are known to have big asses; it's tough to find pants that fit. I don't need custom-made pants, though there are certain brands that fit better. And I have to do a couple of deep squats in my jeans before I wear them out or they won't look quite right.

- feelingkettle

wut?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:38 PM ET
What about your body would surprise us?
JL: Hockey players are known to have big asses; it's tough to find pants that fit. I don't need custom-made pants, though there are certain brands that fit better. And I have to do a couple of deep squats in my jeans before I wear them out or they won't look quite right.

- feelingkettle


Haha. I can imagine Rube from Major League 2 reading this type of stuff
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:39 PM ET
What about your body would surprise us?
JL: Hockey players are known to have big asses; it's tough to find pants that fit. I don't need custom-made pants, though there are certain brands that fit better. And I have to do a couple of deep squats in my jeans before I wear them out or they won't look quite right.

- feelingkettle


Yes, Alex, I'll take "Stuff I could live the rest of my life without knowing" for $500.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:39 PM ET
Giroux sucks
- TylerSeguin19



JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 9 @ 2:40 PM ET
I think one of the most important things for the PP is zone entry. Voracek is very good at that. With Streits shot and ability to get the puck through, they will score goals if they have extended PP time in the zone.
- PhillySportsGuy

They'll still get much less TOI. Voracek's minutes will be slashed by a very sizeable amount. Then his production will go down. Then people will wonder why his production's gone down. Then everyone will want to trade him
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 9 @ 2:41 PM ET
Yes, Alex, I'll take "Stuff I could live the rest of my life without knowing" for $500.
- johndewar

Can't even imagine what Jagr has to go through to find some pants.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 9 @ 2:42 PM ET
Or Tye McGinn. Very possible Laughton goes to the OHL.
- Jsaquella


He's outgrown that league.
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