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coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 9 @ 2:58 PM ET
$1m!! OMG Homer you idiot!
- PhillySportsGuy

sarcasm much?

He had a great showing in the Worlds and I thought he could get more if he wanted. The 1 yr deal is good for him if he can stay healthy and play anywhere near what he did at the Worlds or end of last year. If he does, he will get paid pretty well next year. Good deal for both sides.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:58 PM ET
40 point season would be a good one for him. Dude hasn't shown much to think he can score 60.
- Flyersgod


I think we just need to see measurable improvement with Schenn. It's his 3rd year in the league and he will get top 6 minutes and PP time. The next 1-3 years will determine the type of player he will be.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:58 PM ET
Yes, Alex, I'll take "Stuff I could live the rest of my life without knowing" for $500.
- johndewar

The rapist for 500, Trebek
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 2:58 PM ET
sarcasm much?

He had a great showing in the Worlds and I thought he could get more if he wanted. The 1 yr deal is good for him if he can stay healthy and play anywhere near what he did at the Worlds or end of last year. If he does, he will get paid pretty well next year. Good deal for both sides.

- coffee junkie


it's good for both sides. Sets him up for a season to prove his worth. He will get the opportunity this year. Its all up to him and his health.
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Jul 9 @ 2:58 PM ET
Anyone else here feel like Talbot is going to be dealt ?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 9 @ 2:59 PM ET
you get a lot better playing against better competition.

In 8th grade I played in a basketball league. My friends decided to all play with grades 6th-8th (Meaning they would be the oldest). I decided to join the 9th-12th grade league. By the end of the year I had significantly improved compared to my friends.

- PhillySportsGuy


I get that, but that line of reasoning only works when you're clearly dominant at a certain level. It's not like Laughton was putting up 2 PPG and shutting down the opposition. He was little more than a PPG player. Sure, I think he could help the Flyers now in a 4th line role, but he could take a bigger role with junior club and learn more/different things.

Why didn't Laughton make Canada's U20 WJC team last year?

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 9 @ 3:00 PM ET
The rapist for 500, Trebek
- KINGKENZO




Norm as Burt Reynolds = Gold
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 9 @ 3:00 PM ET
I get that, but that line of reasoning only works when you're clearly dominant at a certain level. It's not like Laughton was putting up 2 PPG and shutting down the opposition. He was little more than a PPG player. Sure, I think he could help the Flyers now in a 4th line role, but he could take a bigger role with junior club and learn more/different things.

Why didn't Laughton make Canada's U20 WJC team last year?

- johndewar


He would have if it wasn't for 1) his lockout and 2) apparently, they didn't like the fact he'd been suspended.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:01 PM ET
Laughton wasn't even Oshawa's top center last year. he played behind Boone Jenner. He will not be hurt if he stays in the OHL one more year. He played well, didn't dominate.

Not saying he can't make the jump to the NHL, but he won't be set back by another year in juniors.

- Jsaquella

While his preseason will determine if the Flyers need to send him down or keep him I think the organizations brass are thinking along these same lines. The Hall and potential Gags signing leave no room for him.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 9 @ 3:01 PM ET


Norm as Burt Reynolds = Gold

- johndewar


"Yeah, whadda ya want?"
"You buzzed in"
"No I didn't."
"Yes, you did."
"yeah, well that's what you think."
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:01 PM ET
Laughton wasn't even Oshawa's top center last year. he played behind Boone Jenner. He will not be hurt if he stays in the OHL one more year. He played well, didn't dominate.

Not saying he can't make the jump to the NHL, but he won't be set back by another year in juniors.

- Jsaquella


Like I've said before. Laughton will let us know in Pre-season and the 9 game tryout if he's ready. It will probably be fairly obvious.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:01 PM ET
Anyone else here feel like Talbot is going to be dealt ?
- MrBigglesworth


It's possible. Not sure I feel like it's impending.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 9 @ 3:01 PM ET
He would have if it wasn't for 1) his lockout and 2) apparently, they didn't like the fact he'd been suspended.
- jmatchett383


Was the suspension just before the tournament? I don't recall.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:02 PM ET


Norm as Burt Reynolds = Gold

- johndewar

Its one of my favorite skits ever
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 9 @ 3:02 PM ET
While his preseason will determine if the Flyers need to send him down or keep him I think the organizations brass are thinking along these same lines. The Hall and potential Gags signing leave no room for him.
- coffee junkie


A 4th line center making $600k for one season should not be the determining factor in whether or not last year's 1st round picks makes the team or not. If he comes into camp and deserves a spot, I'm sorry but the great Adam Hall may have to be the 13th forward.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:02 PM ET
I get that, but that line of reasoning only works when you're clearly dominant at a certain level. It's not like Laughton was putting up 2 PPG and shutting down the opposition. He was little more than a PPG player. Sure, I think he could help the Flyers now in a 4th line role, but he could take a bigger role with junior club and learn more/different things.

Why didn't Laughton make Canada's U20 WJC team last year?

- johndewar


because he went head-hunting and was suspended. He's also very good defensively which will help with the transition.

He did well enough for most people to rank him higher at this point than when he was drafted a year ago.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 9 @ 3:03 PM ET
Was the suspension just before the tournament? I don't recall.
- johndewar


It was before. He'd returned by then, but there was a rumor that Canada wasn't a big fan of it. Not sure why.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:03 PM ET
Like I've said before. Laughton will let us know in Pre-season and the 9 game tryout if he's ready. It will probably be fairly obvious.
- PhillySportsGuy


Using that logic, Steve Mason is the odds on favorite to win the Vezina this year, with his .944 save % in 7 games last season.

If Laughton plays well, I wouldn't be surprised if he sticks. They have the option to send McGinn or Raffl to the AHL, where Laughton is either a Flyer or General
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:03 PM ET
It's possible. Not sure I feel like it's impending.
- Jsaquella



Seems like the Hall signing and Laughton's development may push Talbot and his 1.75m salary out the door.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:03 PM ET
Anyone else here feel like Talbot is going to be dealt ?
- MrBigglesworth


I am of the thought that it is a possibility but not likely. I know Talbot had a down year compared to his first year but he brings great things to the team. I would like to see him played on the PK as much as possible, I think he strives when the coach shows confidence in him.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:04 PM ET
A 4th line center making $600k for one season should not be the determining factor in whether or not last year's 1st round picks makes the team or not. If he comes into camp and deserves a spot, I'm sorry but the great Adam Hall may have to be the 13th forward.
- jmatchett383


I like Hall in the lineup to start the year. Unless Couturier has vastly improved his face-offs then I think Hall is a mainstay.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:04 PM ET
Seems like the Hall signing and Laughton's development may push Talbot and his 1.75m salary out the door.
- MrBigglesworth


Hall's signed for one year. Laughton can return to juniors. Raffl and McGinn can be sent to the AHL without waivers.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 9 @ 3:04 PM ET
Seems like the Hall signing and Laughton's development may push Talbot and his 1.75m salary out the door.
- MrBigglesworth


Guys like Talbot are essential to winning Cups. Dealing him would be a mistake.
dilbert719
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.30.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:05 PM ET
HHOF Class of 2013: 3 players, 1 female player, 1 builder.

Chris Chelios
Scott Niedermayer
Brendan Shanahan
Geraldine Heaney
Fred Shero!

(I'll edit with the rest)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 9 @ 3:05 PM ET
I like Hall in the lineup to start the year. Unless Couturier has vastly improved his face-offs then I think Hall is a mainstay.
- PhillySportsGuy


Hall wins faceoffs and scores at Kent Manderville paces. I know offensive stats aren't everything, but you need to have SOME scoring ability.
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