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Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 3:28 PM ET
Wish he would've signed for 2 or 3 yrs at that number
- Just5


I don't hate Gus, and I like him at 1mil, but I don't see a long term plan for him in Philly.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:29 PM ET
It only hurts if the player is supposed to be a top line player. He could be getting valuable PP time and minutes with a Junior team instead of sitting on the bench.

In Laughton's case, he is a defensive agitator already. The 4th line is really the perfect starting point for him. Maybe mix in a little PK time if they feel he's ready.

- PhillySportsGuy


It didn't hurt Doug Gilmour. He spent most of his first two NHL seasons as a 4th liner.

The thing with Laughton is, they have options. If he does earn it, they find a way to fit him in. If there's any doubt, he can go back to juniors and dominate and the Flyers can slide the contract
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:29 PM ET
It only hurts if the player is supposed to be a top line player. He could be getting valuable PP time and minutes with a Junior team instead of sitting on the bench.

In Laughton's case, he is a defensive agitator already. The 4th line is really the perfect starting point for him. Maybe mix in a little PK time if they feel he's ready.

- PhillySportsGuy

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:29 PM ET

- stveshdy


I think Mogilny deserves to be in. The season he had in 92-93 was amazing. I think he scored 76 goals in 76 games.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:29 PM ET
I don't hate Gus, and I like him at 1mil, but I don't see a long term plan for him in Philly.
- Flyersgod


Time will tell. When he's healthy, hes proven to be an effective player.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 9 @ 3:30 PM ET
Chances are he will never be a top 6 forward on this team. So let him play on the 4th line and earn some ice time on the 3rd line.
- Flyersgod


Problem is, he's going to be paid like a 3rd liner from Day 1.

I simply disagree that he HAS to be on the team this year.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 3:31 PM ET
Time will tell. When he's healthy, hes proven to be an effective player.
- PhillySportsGuy


Meh... I hope for the best, expect the worst. That way I never get too high or too low.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:31 PM ET
I think Mogilny deserves to be in. The season he had in 92-93 was amazing. I think he scored 76 goals in 76 games.
- PLindbergh31


One of my favorite video game players.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 3:31 PM ET
Problem is, he's going to be paid like a 3rd liner from Day 1.

I simply disagree that he HAS to be on the team this year.

- johndewar


Whats his cap hit?
BernieKorch
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Shoey, PA
Joined: 07.24.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:31 PM ET
Congrats Fred Shero to the HOF.... About Damn Time!!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:32 PM ET
I don't hate Gus, and I like him at 1mil, but I don't see a long term plan for him in Philly.
- Flyersgod


Kimmo Timonen is 38 and expected to retire after this season. Mark Streit is 35. The two best offensive defensemen in the Flyers system, Shayne Gostisbehere and Robert Hagg, are probably two or three seasons away from being regular NHLers, let alone impact players.

If he continues to play like he did at the end of last season and during the World Championships, I see a role for him for several years.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:32 PM ET
One of my favorite video game players.
- PhillySportsGuy


Haven't played a video game since Mike Tyson's punch out on Nintendo. I want to say 1988.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 9 @ 3:32 PM ET
Whats his cap hit?
- Flyersgod


$1.1 mil.



youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 9 @ 3:33 PM ET
The question I always ask is, "Whats better for him AND the Flyers"? Should the Flyers give him another shot, and he doesnt look out of place, should they send him back?

Here is my take. The kid is never going to be an offensive powerhouse (ala Towes). He likely wont ever be an above average point scorer (50+). So, letting him play against physically smaller, younger, less matured players, and put up points... Is that going to help him improve?

What about playing 12 minutes a night against the best competition in the world?

- jak521


Ok now lets look at it from the Flyers side. Do we send the kid down, making him a year older before reaching ufa, spending less on our cap, when we are already very deep at the position he plays.

Also, will he help us out as much in his rookie year as a veteran that has played against the best in the world and you know what you are getting at half the cap hit.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 3:33 PM ET
Kimmo Timonen is 38 and expected to retire after this season. Mark Streit is 35. The two best offensive defensemen in the Flyers system, Shayne Gostisbehere and Robert Hagg, are probably two or three seasons away from being regular NHLers, let alone impact players.

If he continues to play like he did at the end of last season and during the World Championships, I see a role for him for several years.

- Jsaquella


Yeah, IF.

I'm skeptical of our defensive prospects etc. Manning looked good for a while, has he progressed at all?
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 3:34 PM ET
$1.1 mil.
- johndewar


Ewww.... why? Thought he was on a EL contract?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 9 @ 3:34 PM ET
I think Mogilny deserves to be in. The season he had in 92-93 was amazing. I think he scored 76 goals in 76 games.
- PLindbergh31


He was my favorite player (not in a flyer uniform) growing up.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:34 PM ET
Meh... I hope for the best, expect the worst. That way I never get too high or too low.
- Flyersgod




I bet I can guess which one you are
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 9 @ 3:34 PM ET
Ok now lets look at it from the Flyers side. Do we send the kid down, making him a year older before reaching ufa, spending less on our cap, when we are already very deep at the position he plays.

Also, will he help us out as much in his rookie year as a veteran that has played against the best in the world and you know what you are getting at half the cap hit.

- youarewrong


hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 9 @ 3:34 PM ET
finally. about (frank)ing time. i'm gonna' go out on a limb here and say the cup drought will now break.

Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jul 9 @ 3:34 PM ET
Ok now lets look at it from the Flyers side. Do we send the kid down, making him a year older before reaching ufa, spending less on our cap, when we are already very deep at the position he plays.

Also, will he help us out as much in his rookie year as a veteran that has played against the best in the world and you know what you are getting at half the cap hit.

- youarewrong


I don't care either way. However, i'd rather send him down. Don't think he's gonna do much yet.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 9 @ 3:35 PM ET
Ewww.... why? Thought he was on a EL contract?
- Flyersgod


Hey, it's good to be a 1st round pick. That's the going market rate.

If it's me....sorry, Scotty. Enjoy Oshawa.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 9 @ 3:35 PM ET
Yeah, IF.

I'm skeptical of our defensive prospects etc. Manning looked good for a while, has he progressed at all?

- Flyersgod


Manning hasn't had anything close to the sustained success that Gustafsson has had. Gustafsson's biggest issue has been staying healthy. Manning's biggest issue has been poor play.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 9 @ 3:35 PM ET
finally. about (frank)ing time. i'm gonna' go out on a limb here and say the cup drought will now break.


- hammarby31


From your keyboard to the big guy in the sky.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 9 @ 3:35 PM ET
Haven't played a video game since Mike Tyson's punch out on Nintendo. I want to say 1988.
- PLindbergh31


I was only a year old the last time you played. Come on man. Get with the program!
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