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watson1195
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jul 10 @ 8:31 AM ET
I think that we will resign Gagne. He even said he'd take less money to play here. Just not sure how much less.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 10 @ 8:53 AM ET
and then there's this:



this is is the image posted at the top of seravali's story on shero's induction to the HHOF on philly.com this morning.


- hammarby31


They need to educate the unpaid intern that likely did this on what Freddie Shero actually looks like.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 10 @ 9:22 AM ET
do you view the flyers as a legitimate cup contender this year?
- stayinthefnnet

More of a playoffs contender than a cup contender imo, but anything can happen once the playoffs start.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 10 @ 9:24 AM ET
I'd rather get Gagne signed before thinking about Morrow.

Would be nice if we could get Gagne for about 1.5... doubtful... but would be nice.

- Flyersgod


If you could have Gagne at $1.5M/2 years or Jagr at $3M for one year, who would you take? Keep in mind how much your captain who just a signed an 8-year extension has been vouching to bring Jagr back.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 10 @ 9:31 AM ET
More of a playoffs contender than a cup contender imo, but anything can happen once the playoffs start.
- BulliesPhan87

Id say they have a good shot at being a very good team.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 10 @ 9:33 AM ET
Id say they have a good shot at being a very good team.
- jak521

As long as they're in contention, it's really just a matter of everything falling into place at the right time (that is, down the stretch). I'm not rushing off to Vegas to put money down, but hope springs eternal, m i rite?
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:37 AM ET
Flyers already have multiple in-house options for 3rd line winger (assuming Couturier/Read are the other two on the line): Talbot, McGinn, Laughton
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:38 AM ET
They need to educate the unpaid intern that likely did this on what Freddie Shero actually looks like.
- johndewar


they have replaced the photo. disgrace.
TS_Downes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Laurel Springs, NJ
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jul 10 @ 9:48 AM ET
They need to educate the unpaid intern that likely did this on what Freddie Shero actually looks like.
- johndewar


pathetic. but ... DORNEY!!!!

"...and, uh, stop it right here"
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:57 AM ET
Flyers already have multiple in-house options for 3rd line winger (assuming Couturier/Read are the other two on the line): Talbot, McGinn, Laughton
- bradleyc4



Barring a forward being traded, I'm leaning toward agreeing with you. I'd like to have Gagne back. But they're probably better off trading Meszaros. Keeping Pronger off of LTIR, and banking some Cap space. Give some of the young kids a shot, and let's roll!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 10 @ 10:21 AM ET
Barring a forward being traded, I'm leaning toward agreeing with you. I'd like to have Gagne back. But they're probably better off trading Meszaros. Keeping Pronger off of LTIR, and banking some Cap space. Give some of the young kids a shot, and let's roll!
- MJL


This
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Jul 10 @ 10:23 AM ET
Barring a forward being traded, I'm leaning toward agreeing with you. I'd like to have Gagne back. But they're probably better off trading Meszaros. Keeping Pronger off of LTIR, and banking some Cap space. Give some of the young kids a shot, and let's roll!
- MJL

Well put MJL
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 10 @ 10:36 AM ET
Yup
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 10 @ 10:44 AM ET
So I guess its officially that time of the off-season.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 10 @ 10:46 AM ET
Mez still needs to be cleared first medically before we can trade him. I don't believe that has happened yet. Once it does, I think he'll be moved. I'd love Morrow, but i am not sure that just getting rid of Mez would cover his hit.
- watson1195


I'm pretty sure that you can trade in injured player as long as the team getting the player accepts the trade and is informed of the injury. It is more likely that they don't have any takers until he is medically cleared.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:46 AM ET
Trade and or Waive and demote.
- MJL

A one-way deal just means he's paid the same rate wherever he plays. Not that he can't be demoted. But I don't know his waiver status.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:48 AM ET
There is the problem/culprit right there. it was seravelli. although it could have been anyone of the stiffs over there either.
- wtfd103074

Not that I want to defend Seravelli, but the writer has nothing to do with either the graphics or the headlines on any story.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:50 AM ET
A one-way deal just means he's paid the same rate wherever he plays. Not that he can't be demoted. But I don't know his waiver status.
- bodiva88



Not sure what you're referring to there. But I'm aware of the difference between a one way and two way deal.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 10 @ 10:51 AM ET
More of a playoffs contender than a cup contender imo, but anything can happen once the playoffs start.
- BulliesPhan87


I have to disagree. I think this team is deep offensively and defensively. The only queston mark is goalie. If one of the goalies has a good season, then they are a cup contendor.

IMO there are 2 ways to win the cup. 1. You can win it on star power, with either a top notch first/second line, or a top notch goalie, or a top notch defense. 2. You can win it by having a deep team. Your top lines can match other teams top lines, but your bottom lines outscore/out play the other bottom lines. This is the type of team Philly has.

Recent examples of deep teams that won, or came close are LA, NJ, Boston, Philly.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 10 @ 10:52 AM ET
Not that I want to defend Seravelli, but the writer has nothing to do with either the graphics or the headlines on any story.
- bodiva88


It's his name attached to the story, he should make sure the graphic is appropriate.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:53 AM ET
Hockey doesn't sleep
Atleast, I wish it didn't. It's been dead recently. Not even many rumors.

- JAKEw1234

Also, we have posters as far west as Alaska.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
I have to disagree. I think this team is deep offensively and defensively. The only queston mark is goalie. If one of the goalies has a good season, then they are a cup contendor.

IMO there are 2 ways to win the cup. 1. You can win it on star power, with either a top notch first/second line, or a top notch goalie, or a top notch defense. 2. You can win it by having a deep team. Your top lines can match other teams top lines, but your bottom lines outscore/out play the other bottom lines. This is the type of team Philly has.

Recent examples of deep teams that won, or came close are LA, NJ, Boston, Philly.

- youarewrong



LA and Boston both had dominating #1 defenseman, and Goalies who played out of their minds. I beleive in the get in the playoffs and anything can happen mantra. But realistically, the Flyers are not a true contender. They are short on defense, and they need some young players to mature further to get to that status.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 10 @ 10:58 AM ET
I have to disagree. I think this team is deep offensively and defensively. The only queston mark is goalie. If one of the goalies has a good season, then they are a cup contendor.

IMO there are 2 ways to win the cup. 1. You can win it on star power, with either a top notch first/second line, or a top notch goalie, or a top notch defense. 2. You can win it by having a deep team. Your top lines can match other teams top lines, but your bottom lines outscore/out play the other bottom lines. This is the type of team Philly has.

Recent examples of deep teams that won, or came close are LA, NJ, Boston, Philly.

- youarewrong


While I agree that they are a deep team, there are still question marks:

Can Emery or Mason be a #1 goalie that can take a team on a cup run?
Will Couturier and B Schenn take a big step forward in their development?
Can the D stay healthy?
Can Timonen still be a top pair guy at age 38?

Also while they have improved, there are still better teams out there: Chicago, St. Louis, Los Angeles, Boston and Pittsburgh for sure and possibly the Rangers, the Red Wings, San Jose and Anaheim.
I could see the Flyers finishing anywhere from 2nd to 6th in their division and while I think they will make the playoffs, it's certainly not a lock.

To me they are a probable playoff team, and a longshot to win the Cup.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 10 @ 11:05 AM ET
I have to disagree. I think this team is deep offensively and defensively. The only queston mark is goalie. If one of the goalies has a good season, then they are a cup contendor.

IMO there are 2 ways to win the cup. 1. You can win it on star power, with either a top notch first/second line, or a top notch goalie, or a top notch defense. 2. You can win it by having a deep team. Your top lines can match other teams top lines, but your bottom lines outscore/out play the other bottom lines. This is the type of team Philly has.

Recent examples of deep teams that won, or came close are LA, NJ, Boston, Philly.

- youarewrong

I like our depth, but I'm still a bit uncertain about it until we see how they come together on the ice. Elements last season's team lacked have been added, the talent should be a better mix. I don't think we're on par with the top contenders of this past season yet (though I think we can get under the Pens' skin again ), but in a full 82 game season, who knows how things shake out? I know I said we're not a 'cup contender' and I do stand by that. I still like our odds, all things considered. Just gotta make it to the dance.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
and then there's this:


- hammarby31


Good lord, I don't think anyone could look more douchey than this moron. The worst part is that his look is totally manufactured. They turn him IN TO this!!

Carcillo needs to give him a McSorley to the side of the head Brashear style.
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