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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 10 @ 9:08 PM ET
Does Jvince have conversations with himself and reply to his own posts in all of Garth's blogs??
- Campbell SpinORama


Where did I do that?

Campbell SpinORama
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 12.02.2006

Jul 10 @ 9:09 PM ET
Where did I do that?


- JVince11

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:09 PM ET
He was on an elite team for 2 years and I dont see any cups
- Rally_Shots


In fairness, the only elite team was the second year after the lockout when they began the season 10-0.

Going into the Ottawa series, they were a distinct underdog, big time.
Nobody outside of Buffalo thought they had a prayer of beating Ottawa as Ottawa thumped them routinely that regular season.

Ray Emery and Chara being a turnstyle are the two main reasons they won that series.

Hell, there were a lot of people that thought they wouldn't even get past the Flyers in round 1.

Every time I watch highlights of those playoff series, it makes me realize how much I miss the style of hockey that was played league wide then. End to end rushes, speed all over the place, and almost zero obstruction. Oh for those days to be back again...
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 10 @ 9:10 PM ET
Where did I do that?


- JVince11

maybe all the sabres losing over the years has made him crazy/delusional?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:10 PM ET
Comparing Miller and Dom is like comparing Miller and Enroth, not in the same galaxy
- sbroads24


Bear in mind I only began watching hockey when I moved to Buffalo in 1988, but Dom is the single best hockey player I have ever seen when he was at his peak.

The 1-0 game 6 victory against the Devils is still the single best display of goaltending I have ever seen.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 10 @ 9:10 PM ET

- Campbell SpinORama



Um.... okay?

You are swell...
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 10 @ 9:11 PM ET
Would be nice to try and grab Blake Wheeler if the Jets decide not to keep him, he would look good on Vanek's left.
- SABRES 89


wont be on Vanek's wing, but was thinking same thing. hed be pretty good.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:13 PM ET
wont be on Vanek's wing, but was thinking same thing. hed be pretty good.
- CaptPantalones

Yes he is, you would think that would make Vanek think twice. Sounded good.
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 10 @ 9:16 PM ET
Yes he is, you would think that would make Vanek think twice. Sounded good.
- SABRES 89


I know your not in the area, so I wouldnt expect you to have heard this (unless someone brought it up), but Paul Hamilton (WGRs Sabres beat writer) said on air today that Vanek has his sources have told him Vanek has his mind made up and wants out. He also said Miller might be the one who could be convinced of staying.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 10 @ 9:17 PM ET
In fairness, the only elite team was the second year after the lockout when they began the season 10-0.

Going into the Ottawa series, they were a distinct underdog, big time.
Nobody outside of Buffalo thought they had a prayer of beating Ottawa as Ottawa thumped them routinely that regular season.

Ray Emery and Chara being a turnstyle are the two main reasons they won that series.

Hell, there were a lot of people that thought they wouldn't even get past the Flyers in round 1.

Every time I watch highlights of those playoff series, it makes me realize how much I miss the style of hockey that was played league wide then. End to end rushes, speed all over the place, and almost zero obstruction. Oh for those days to be back again...

- kingcong39


My biggest problem with these goalie stats especially Miller bashers are this:

The two seasons after the lockout more penalties were called teams were playing high paced end to end hockey. Odd man rush after odd man rush. The league changed to a more defensive "prelockout" style after two years. The Sabres kept trying to play that run and gun style while the other teams didnt. It took the Sabres (typical Ruff) another year to try to play defensive hockey again. So bash Millers numbers all you want but it's not like he had a defensive style (Tippett, Tortarella, Boucher) game and a ton of help from the team in front of him. He is the reason we haven't had a top 5 draft pick and he is the reason we squeezed into the playoffs 2 years ago. Ill end my rant and when he goes win elsewhere we can all stop with this argument that he isn't a winner and he is the cancer in the lockerroom.

Oh and btw the reason Briere didn't sign here wasn't because he wanted to play for a winner it was because the real cancer on the team is still here and ill give you a hint it's not Miller
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 10 @ 9:17 PM ET
Bear in mind I only began watching hockey when I moved to Buffalo in 1988, but Dom is the single best hockey player I have ever seen when he was at his peak.

The 1-0 game 6 victory against the Devils is still the single best display of goaltending I have ever seen.

- kingcong39

This is what annoys me, Ray Emery put up better numbers than 95% of the goalies in the league because of what team he is on. No one would say he's better than Quick or Hank despite putting up better #s than them. Yet Miller plays on an awful team which is proved by our awful possession numbers and special teams, not To mention shots against, yet he is still supposed to put up exceptional numbers otherwise he is average, I base my opinion of him by watching him
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jul 10 @ 9:21 PM ET
This is what annoys me, Ray Emery put up better numbers than 95% of the goalies in the league because of what team he is on. No one would say he's better than Quick or Hank despite putting up better #s than them. Yet Miller plays on an awful team which is proved by our awful possession numbers and special teams, not To mention shots against, yet he is still supposed to put up exceptional numbers otherwise he is average, I base my opinion of him by watching him
- sbroads24


THIS x1000!!!
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Jul 10 @ 9:22 PM ET
Homie, its hilarious youre saying the numbers dont lie, but wont concede to the fact that if Miller played behind Boston, he'd be putting up AT LEAST equivalent numbers or better.

I've posted the numbers 100 times over before.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:24 PM ET
I know your not in the area, so I wouldnt expect you to have heard this (unless someone brought it up), but Paul Hamilton (WGRs Sabres beat writer) said on air today that Vanek has his sources have told him Vanek has his mind made up and wants out. He also said Miller might be the one who could be convinced of staying.
- CaptPantalones

I listen to GR and I know who Paul Hamilton is, i've heard that before as well.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jul 10 @ 9:25 PM ET
This is what annoys me, Ray Emery put up better numbers than 95% of the goalies in the league because of what team he is on. No one would say he's better than Quick or Hank despite putting up better #s than them. Yet Miller plays on an awful team which is proved by our awful possession numbers and special teams, not To mention shots against, yet he is still supposed to put up exceptional numbers otherwise he is average, I base my opinion of him by watching him
- sbroads24


I'd be willing to bet Ryan Miller if traded to a legit team, he will win hardware.
CaptPantalones
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Optimistic side, NY
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 10 @ 9:27 PM ET
I listen to GR and I know who Paul Hamilton is, i've heard that before as well.
- SABRES 89


OK wasnt sure. my apologies
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 10 @ 9:28 PM ET
OK wasnt sure. my apologies
- CaptPantalones


I also agree with the Capt here. Vanek is out Miller could still resign
Rally_Shots
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jul 10 @ 9:30 PM ET
In fairness, the only elite team was the second year after the lockout when they began the season 10-0.

Going into the Ottawa series, they were a distinct underdog, big time.
Nobody outside of Buffalo thought they had a prayer of beating Ottawa as Ottawa thumped them routinely that regular season.

Ray Emery and Chara being a turnstyle are the two main reasons they won that series.

Hell, there were a lot of people that thought they wouldn't even get past the Flyers in round 1.

Every time I watch highlights of those playoff series, it makes me realize how much I miss the style of hockey that was played league wide then. End to end rushes, speed all over the place, and almost zero obstruction. Oh for those days to be back again...

- kingcong39


The Sabres still finished 4th in the east the first year out of hte lockout with 110 pts. They were the third best team in the east, I would still call that elite regardless if they ran into another elite team in Ottawa in the playoffs.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 10 @ 9:30 PM ET
This is what annoys me, Ray Emery put up better numbers than 95% of the goalies in the league because of what team he is on. No one would say he's better than Quick or Hank despite putting up better #s than them. Yet Miller plays on an awful team which is proved by our awful possession numbers and special teams, not To mention shots against, yet he is still supposed to put up exceptional numbers otherwise he is average, I base my opinion of him by watching him
- sbroads24


Numbers never lie supposedly?

Millers 2 1-0 shutouts vs the far superior philly offense in the playoffs.. doesn't matter?

Or that in the last 13 games for miller in the playoffs that only 1 win included him giving up more than 1 goal...

Can't a brother get a little offense???
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:31 PM ET
OK wasnt sure. my apologies
- CaptPantalones

All good, no problem.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 10 @ 9:31 PM ET
I know your not in the area, so I wouldnt expect you to have heard this (unless someone brought it up), but Paul Hamilton (WGRs Sabres beat writer) said on air today that Vanek has his sources have told him Vanek has his mind made up and wants out. He also said Miller might be the one who could be convinced of staying.
- CaptPantalones



sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 10 @ 9:31 PM ET
Numbers never lie supposedly?

Millers 2 1-0 shutouts vs the far superior philly offense in the playoffs.. doesn't matter?

Or that in the last 13 games for miller in the playoffs that only 1 win included him giving up more than 1 goal...

Can't a brother get a little offense???

- JVince11

It's just all nonsense
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 10 @ 9:33 PM ET
I'd be willing to bet Ryan Miller if traded to a legit team, he will win hardware.
- ImThatGuy


I really think that miller is an ultra competitor.... this past season just grinded him to his boiling point... he couldn't take losing amd not trusting the revolving door of dmen in front of him... he tried to over play every scenario and close every passing lane...

Risto and Big Z could have been a huge part of trying to get miller to stay...
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:34 PM ET
wont be on Vanek's wing, but was thinking same thing. hed be pretty good.
- CaptPantalones

Moving Vanek is a mistake, I know the situation however it's a mistake IMO.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 10 @ 9:35 PM ET
It's just all nonsense
- sbroads24


Everyone has to have a scapegoat when they don't go 82-0 and win the cup.... only one team at the end of the year is happy...


Usually for sabre fans.... its the guys with the bigger paychecks that get blamed for everything regardless of obvious other factors
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