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rustbelt82
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 10 @ 4:34 PM ET
NHL GMs wokeup today. signins and deals
- Jurco_28


while Darcy is down in Cost Rica looking a monkeys with his wife.........
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 10 @ 4:35 PM ET
while Darcy is down in Cost Rica looking a monkeys with his wife.........
- rustbelt82

Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 10 @ 4:35 PM ET
They probably didn't want to distract from the HOF announcement yesterday; just a guess.
- GilPerreault11


I would agree
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jul 10 @ 4:39 PM ET
Alzner and Carlson deals are outstanding. Those d men are great and great cap hits. both of them combined is about 6.5 million i think so wow.

speaking of great d men it is rumored out there that Alex Pietrangelo has signed a deal with St. Louis. If so it could be 6 years 40 million
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 10 @ 4:41 PM ET
Alzner and Carlson deals are outstanding. Those d men are great and great cap hits. both of them combined is about 6.5 million i think so wow.

speaking of great d men it is rumored out there that Alex Pietrangelo has signed a deal with St. Louis. If so it could be 6 years 40 million

- Beezer33



That would be a great deal for St Louis IMO.
eminjay
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.08.2013

Jul 10 @ 4:49 PM ET
Wonder if there is any sort of rule that stipulates the same player cannot be traded back and forth between two teams for salary retaining purposes. Just an example can't happen with these players now anyway:

Buffalo trades Stafford to Blue's retaining 2 mil
Blue's trades Buffalo Perron

then buffalo trades Perron back to blue's retaining half his contract and getting a 1st and second in 2014?

In effect we traded stafford and money for 2 picks
TMacfreak91
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 10 @ 4:51 PM ET
Wonder if there is any sort of rule that stipulates the same player cannot be traded back and forth between two teams for salary retaining purposes. Just an example can't happen this way anyway:

Buffalo trades Stafford to Blue's retaining 2 mil
Blue's trades Buffalo Perron

then buffalo trades Perron back to blue's retaining half his contract and getting a 1st and second in 2014?

In effect we traded stafford and money for 2 picks

- eminjay


Definitely no way that's allowed. It'd be an obvious way of circumventing the cap which is against the rules if memory serves.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 10 @ 4:52 PM ET
@FlyGoalScoredBy: Rumor that the Flyers are very close to a Bobby Ryan deal with Ottawa is completely TRUE.

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 10 @ 4:54 PM ET
Wonder if there is any sort of rule that stipulates the same player cannot be traded back and forth between two teams for salary retaining purposes. Just an example can't happen this way anyway:

Buffalo trades Stafford to Blue's retaining 2 mil
Blue's trades Buffalo Perron

then buffalo trades Perron back to blue's retaining half his contract and getting a 1st and second in 2014?

In effect we traded stafford and money for 2 picks

- eminjay



A player may be traded only up to two times where salary, cap hit, or singing bonus is retained.

I'd have to guess that the back and forth thing would be considered a violation of the cap in order to circumvent the cap.
rsj2588
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jul 10 @ 4:54 PM ET
Garth praising Ristolainen's D work... From that video (didn't see anything else) he god burned on the outside, and then almost got out-muscled and got lucky by turning around and poking the puck away.

Not really what I would call impressive. Not saying he is bad, but based on the video he posted it was totally meh

Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 10 @ 4:55 PM ET
@FlyGoalScoredBy: Rumor that the Flyers are very close to a Bobby Ryan deal with Ottawa is completely TRUE.


- gerbe75pts


i love twitter.
eminjay
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.08.2013

Jul 10 @ 4:56 PM ET
Definitely no way that's allowed. It'd be an obvious way of circumventing the cap which is against the rules if memory serves.
- TMacfreak91


I'm thinking it is circumventing the cba of course, but the trade a player to be bought out then resign with original team wasn't wrong until the NHL memo that was sent out. maybe first teams doing it gets away with it?

edit: mind you I'm just spitballing and thinking outside the box a bit.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jul 10 @ 4:56 PM ET
@FlyGoalScoredBy: Rumor that the Flyers are very close to a Bobby Ryan deal with Ottawa is completely TRUE.


- gerbe75pts


Lol dafuq?
TMacfreak91
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 10 @ 4:57 PM ET
Garth praising Ristolainen's D work... From that video (didn't see anything else) he god burned on the outside, and then almost got out-muscled and got lucky by turning around and poking the puck away.

Not really what I would call impressive. Not saying he is bad, but based on the video he posted it was totally meh

- rsj2588


I couldn't help but laugh at that too haha. Just talked to a friend who was there today and he said Risto got beat outside a couple times, though he thinks (like Garth) that his footwork looked pretty good and that those times where he was beat outside that Risto likely would've shoved the guy into the wall if it was a full contact situation.
RicoMartin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: whitby, ON
Joined: 01.28.2007

Jul 10 @ 5:02 PM ET
St. Louis now has the cap space to take on Vanek and/or Miller.

Plus they acquired a pick, which is what Reiger likes to get in a deal.

Pietrangelo, Stewart, Bergland/Tarasenko and Elliot/Halak plus 2nd round pick for Vanek and Miller....I think St. Louis is anticipating an offer sheet on Pietrangelo and would like to get a deal done sooner than later.

Question is why Buffalo has not put the offer sheet threat on the desk of St. Louis for Pieterangelo? becasue ST. L would just match the offer (as they did with Vancouver before) and especially now that they have traded some salary away to Edmonton.....then they might offer sheet Hodgson out of spite.
Better to play nice in the sandbox on this one and get the trade done right.

With Luit out of St. L, (and Miller's agent) it would seem that he would praise that city to Miller....it gets Milelr closer to the West Coast for sure; vanek would get closer to Minnesota...contract extensions would need to be worked out before teh deal goes through.
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 10 @ 5:03 PM ET
St. Louis now has the cap space to take on Vanek and/or Miller.

Plus they acquired a pick, which is what Reiger likes to get in a deal.

Pietrangelo, Stewart, Bergland/Tarasenko and Elliot/Halak plus 2nd round pick for Vanek and Miller....I think St. Louis is anticipating an offer sheet on Pietrangelo and would like to get a deal done sooner than later.

Question is why Buffalo has not put the offer sheet threat on the desk of St. Louis for Pieterangelo? becasue ST. L would just match the offer (as they did with Vancouver before) and especially now that they have traded some salary away to Edmonton.....then they might offer sheet Hodgson out of spite.
Better to play nice in the sandbox on this one and get the trade done right.

With Luit out of St. L, (and Miller's agent) it would seem that he would praise that city to Miller....it gets Milelr closer to the West Coast for sure; vanek would get closer to Minnesota...contract extensions would need to be worked out before teh deal goes through.

- RicoMartin


wtf
u think st.louis should throw in backes too? how about oshie?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jul 10 @ 5:05 PM ET
wtf
u think st.louis should throw in backes too? how about oshie?

- Jurco_28







Replace Malkin with Miller and Vanek.
leonwaldo420
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Never In Canada
Joined: 06.30.2008

Jul 10 @ 5:07 PM ET
wtf
u think st.louis should throw in backes too? how about oshie?

- Jurco_28

LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jul 10 @ 5:07 PM ET
St. Louis now has the cap space to take on Vanek and/or Miller.

Plus they acquired a pick, which is what Reiger likes to get in a deal.

Pietrangelo, Stewart, Bergland/Tarasenko and Elliot/Halak plus 2nd round pick for Vanek and Miller....I think St. Louis is anticipating an offer sheet on Pietrangelo and would like to get a deal done sooner than later.

Question is why Buffalo has not put the offer sheet threat on the desk of St. Louis for Pieterangelo? becasue ST. L would just match the offer (as they did with Vancouver before) and especially now that they have traded some salary away to Edmonton.....then they might offer sheet Hodgson out of spite.
Better to play nice in the sandbox on this one and get the trade done right.

With Luit out of St. L, (and Miller's agent) it would seem that he would praise that city to Miller....it gets Milelr closer to the West Coast for sure; vanek would get closer to Minnesota...contract extensions would need to be worked out before teh deal goes through.

- RicoMartin

I really hope your ideas aren't serious.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 10 @ 5:08 PM ET
I really hope your ideas aren't serious.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

I hope they come true
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jul 10 @ 5:09 PM ET
RT @reporterchris: Tuukka Rask gets a $56M, eight-year extension from the #bruins.
7 mill per?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 10 @ 5:17 PM ET
RT @reporterchris: Tuukka Rask gets a $56M, eight-year extension from the #bruins.
7 mill per?

- BuffaloHardHat



Lundqvist is happy
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Jul 10 @ 5:17 PM ET
Alzner and Carlson deals are outstanding. Those d men are great and great cap hits. both of them combined is about 6.5 million i think so wow.

speaking of great d men it is rumored out there that Alex Pietrangelo has signed a deal with St. Louis. If so it could be 6 years 40 million

- Beezer33

Dude seriously enough with pretending to be an insider it gets annoying flitering through all the bullpoop.
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 10 @ 5:17 PM ET

- leonwaldo420

st.louis trades half their team for miller and vanek. i can see it.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Jul 10 @ 5:19 PM ET
Lundqvist is happy
- gerbe75pts

I would bet he is.
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