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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 12 @ 10:04 AM ET
And why would you want an underager playing in the AHL anyway?
- bodiva88

In my opinion, they should have addressed the CHL/AHL rules a long time ago.

If a player has been drafted, and played in at least 3 JR seasons, he should be eligible to play in the AHL. Laughton is a perfect example this season. If he, for whatever reason, doesnt make the Flyers, would he benefit more from another year in JR's, or AHL?
Stinkfitz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Aston, PA
Joined: 08.14.2012

Jul 12 @ 10:04 AM ET
I think Haag will. He dropped because he had a bad second half. Morin skyrocketed in the ranks this season. I think Haag will be a better all-around player that plays in the top-4 (maybe top-2), and that Morin will be a bigger, meaner defensive defenseman on the 2nd pairing. But hell, I've never seen either skate against NHL or AHL competition, so I'm not sure.
- jmatchett383


Ideally they will be the top pairing in a few years down the road. If Morin doesn't develop his offensive game and is a defensive defenseman than he and Haag may be good together.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:04 AM ET
that play haunts me still. among several others in that game. g-df'ckngdamnit!!!
- hammarby31


That Flyers team beating that Powerhouse would have been an all-time sports "David vs. Goliath" type of story.

The fact that that Flyers team.....who had less talent and the talent they DID have was really banged up......the fact that they hung with those Oilers, to me, is mind boggling.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 12 @ 10:04 AM ET
If they cut the state of New Jersey in half, at Trenton, and made each half of the state it's own separate state......I'd heartily embrace that.
- johndewar

They'd have to cut it 3 ways as many folks in Central Jersey would not want to be considered North or South.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:04 AM ET
Thank you, Howard Berger.


- Flyskippy

What's the difference between Howard Berger and BulliesPhan87?

BulliesPhan87 will never leave this site. Not for an instant.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:06 AM ET
They'd have to cut it 3 ways as many folks in Central Jersey would not want to be considered North or South.
- Flyskippy


Good, I'd be fine with that.

The could cut it off at Mercer County.

Make it happen, Chris Christie.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:07 AM ET
Good thing that Al Gore hadn't invented the Internet yet or else Ilkka would be killed for that like Jeff Carter in 2010.
- Flyskippy


possibly, but i disagree for the simple reason that carter had a reputation so to speak. ilkka never had that baggage. also, the timing of those two plays were quite different.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jul 12 @ 10:07 AM ET
What's the difference between Howard Berger and BulliesPhan87?

BulliesPhan87 will never leave this site. Not for an instant.

- BulliesPhan87

what about for more than an instant... you didnt rule that out you sly devil.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:07 AM ET
vejim = Sign Man?
- johndewar

lol...I am not sign man but met him a few times
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:08 AM ET
So, say you have an 18-year-old that makes an NHL team, and the following year, for whatever reason, he doesn't make the team. All you can do is make him a healthy scratch, correct? Or can he be returned to juniors after a full NHL season?
- jmatchett383



Even if they burn a year off their ELC, those players still have to go back to Juniors, like Grigorenko and Matteau did this past year. CHL rights over players extends all the way to 20, no matter what.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 12 @ 10:09 AM ET
possibly, but i disagree for the simple reason that carter had a reputation so to speak. ilkka never had that baggage. also, the timing of those two plays were quite different.
- hammarby31

Oh, shush and let me pontificate!

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:09 AM ET
That Flyers team beating that Powerhouse would have been an all-time sports "David vs. Goliath" type of story.

The fact that that Flyers team.....who had less talent and the talent they DID have was really banged up......the fact that they hung with those Oilers, to me, is mind boggling.

- johndewar


an amazing run, riddled with injuries, that team DESERVED the cup. all those near misses in the first period of game 7.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:09 AM ET
In my opinion, they should have addressed the CHL/AHL rules a long time ago.

If a player has been drafted, and played in at least 3 JR seasons, he should be eligible to play in the AHL. Laughton is a perfect example this season. If he, for whatever reason, doesnt make the Flyers, would he benefit more from another year in JR's, or AHL?

- jak521



I agree. They've had him for 3 Seasons. That's enough. At that point, what's best for the player's development is what should matter. After 3 Seasons in Juniors, regardless of age. The AHL should be an option.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 12 @ 10:10 AM ET
What's the difference between Howard Berger and BulliesPhan87?

BulliesPhan87 will never leave this site. Not for an instant.

- BulliesPhan87

Pretty sure the site left Berger.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:10 AM ET
Oh, shush and let me pontificate!


- Flyskippy


fine, fine.

i suspect wilsonecho's spidey senses are tingling and will be round these parts post- haste. or not.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:11 AM ET
possibly, but i disagree for the simple reason that carter had a reputation so to speak. ilkka never had that baggage. also, the timing of those two plays were quite different.
- hammarby31



Darren Daulton said thank goodness the internet wasn't around in his day. He said that the group on the team at that time, was out just about every night galavanting around.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:11 AM ET
They'd have to cut it 3 ways as many folks in Central Jersey would not want to be considered North or South.
- Flyskippy


yes, please. this. central jersey represent!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:12 AM ET
Pretty sure the site left Berger.


- Flyskippy


along with the fan590.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:13 AM ET
Darren Daulton said thank goodness the internet wasn't around in his day. He said that the group on the team at that time, was out just about every night galavanting around.
- MJL

and Kruker loved his beer
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:13 AM ET
Oh, shush and let me pontificate!


- Flyskippy

just dont moan as you are doing it
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 12 @ 10:17 AM ET
morin >>> pulock
when all is said and done
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 12 @ 10:19 AM ET
morin >>> pulock
when all is said and done

- Crimsoninja

bookmarked for future told you so's/bragging rights
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 12 @ 10:21 AM ET
morin >>> pulock
when all is said and done

- Crimsoninja


Well Morin also has to end up a better player than Zadorov, and Morrissey doesn't he?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jul 12 @ 10:23 AM ET
Darren Daulton said thank goodness the internet wasn't around in his day. He said that the group on the team at that time, was out just about every night galavanting around.
- MJL

So that's why they didn't win the pennant! Ah ha!
phatpat44
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 12 @ 10:24 AM ET
Even if they burn a year off their ELC, those players still have to go back to Juniors, like Grigorenko and Matteau did this past year. CHL rights over players extends all the way to 20, no matter what.
- Tomahawk


RNH?
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