Flyskippy
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Location: Ignoreland, GA Joined: 11.04.2005
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Has anyone signed Bryz? - LJF
He sent applications to the Courier Post, Delco Times, Inquirer, and Daily News. If you can't beat 'em... |
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stveshdy
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Joined: 06.28.2010
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Same here. But I'd definitely prefer that they give one of the young kids a shot over signing Gagne. But I won't be upset if they do. - MJL
I agree. Would like to see a young kid step up and get an opportunity. However, if they decide to keep Gagne at a fair price its okay. |
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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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He sent applications to the Courier Post, Delco Times, Inquirer, and Daily News. If you can't beat 'em... - Flyskippy
he cant be any less knowledgeable about hockey than their current writers. |
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Pronger will be back this year. It's an Olympic year |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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I checked to see if Jsaq did first. - Flyskippy
I was busy working, otherwise, you know I would have, Sunshine |
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Holy quiet today... |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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This is a new stripe for you and not at all indicative of any posts of yours from the past two years.
- Flyskippy
Can I at least get an e for effort? |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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Holy quiet today... - SMS4016
Sum ting Wong |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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It's not any different then Draft picks. 2nd and 3rd round picks that go on to become very good NHL players are also outliers. Looking for undrafted talent that the draft overlooked is a good way to increase your prospect base. You're not going to hit on every one. Just like you aren't with draft picks. The Flyers should absolutely continue to do what they're doing in the undrafted UFA market. - MJL
Trying to find prospects via UFA route is like going up to a buffet at the end of the night, looking over the picked-over carnage, and double-checking to see if a lobster tail didn't accidentally fall between a couple of chafing dishes. Yeah, one lucky guy might come out with the lobster, but the copy-cats are probably not going to find anything worth eating that way.
The draft is the first pass, and is light-years ahead in terms of probability of finding good players (and maybe lobster, too). |
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JAKEw1234
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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Trying to find prospects via UFA route is like going up to a buffet at the end of the night, looking over the picked-over carnage, and double-checking to see if a lobster tail didn't accidentally fall between a couple of chafing dishes. Yeah, one lucky guy might come out with the lobster, but the copy-cats are probably not going to find anything worth eating that way.
The draft is the first pass, and is light-years ahead in terms of probability of finding good players (and maybe lobster, too). - Tomahawk
We got Matt Read, Erik Gustafsson, and now Michael Raffl as undrafted UFA signings. Matt Read, and Erik Gustafsson have proven themselves to be effective NHL starters, and now hopefully Raffl will follow. I'd much rather use roster spaces on undrafted over-agers like Gus, Read, and Raffl who are beginning to show that they're just late bloomers, than use the same roster spaces on 6th/7th round career CHL or AHL players. |
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KINGKENZO
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Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people Joined: 01.10.2008
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Sum ting Wong - JoeRussomanno
Ho Lee Fuk, I can't believe you went there |
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Jsaquella
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Location: Bringing Hexy Back Joined: 06.16.2006
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We got Matt Read, Erik Gustafsson, and now Michael Raffl as undrafted UFA signings. Matt Read, and Erik Gustafsson have proven themselves to be effective NHL starters, and now hopefully Raffl will follow. I'd much rather use roster spaces on undrafted over-agers like Gus, Read, and Raffl who are beginning to show that they're just late bloomers, than use the same roster spaces on 6th/7th round career CHL or AHL players. - JAKEw1234
Read and Raffl were not regular undrafted hidden gems. They were fairly well known and teams competed for them.
For every Gustafsson, there 2 or 3 Mike Testwuides, Andrew Rowes or Tyler Browns that never sniff the NHL |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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Ho Lee Fuk, I can't believe you went there - KINGKENZO
Wi tu lo on posts today |
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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We got Matt Read, Erik Gustafsson, and now Michael Raffl as undrafted UFA signings. Matt Read, and Erik Gustafsson have proven themselves to be effective NHL starters, and now hopefully Raffl will follow. I'd much rather use roster spaces on undrafted over-agers like Gus, Read, and Raffl who are beginning to show that they're just late bloomers, than use the same roster spaces on 6th/7th round career CHL or AHL players. - JAKEw1234
Homer gets a cookie for Undrafted free agents |
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KINGKENZO
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Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people Joined: 01.10.2008
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Read and Raffl were not regular undrafted hidden gems. They were fairly well known and teams competed for them.
For every Gustafsson, there 2 or 3 Mike Testwuides, Andrew Rowes or Tyler Browns that never sniff the NHL - Jsaquella
I hate the hype the undrafted college free agents get. Matt Gilroy, Stepan DeCosta, JT Brown(Tampa). Thankfully Read has panned out and has been the best of the bunch |
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KINGKENZO
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Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people Joined: 01.10.2008
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Wi tu lo on posts today - JoeRussomanno
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Flyskippy
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Location: Ignoreland, GA Joined: 11.04.2005
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I was busy working, otherwise, you know I would have, Sunshine - Jsaquella
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JoeRussomanno
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Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious Joined: 12.14.2011
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- KINGKENZO
I heard the news lady is so grieved that she's changing her screen name to Wan dum ho. |
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JAKEw1234
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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Read and Raffl were not regular undrafted hidden gems. They were fairly well known and teams competed for them.
For every Gustafsson, there 2 or 3 Mike Testwuides, Andrew Rowes or Tyler Browns that never sniff the NHL - Jsaquella
It's probably more like 4 or 5 but the point is, it costs no assets to sign these guys. By a later age (24 or 25), your late round long-shot picks have either begun to show some promise, or show none. There's no harm in cutting out the guys who show no promise in order go after the biggest name undrafted players. And of course we'll have to compete for guys like Read and Raffl, but our organization is one of the financial powerhouses of the league, and we can afford to drop money on guys like that, that's just part of a GM using his resources to the fullest. I don't even know why it's up for argument. In the past couple years we've been one of the big winners in the undrafted UFA market. It's helped us out a lot, and I wouldn't want to see Homer stop going after guys like that. |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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It's probably more like 4 or 5 but the point is, it costs no assets to sign these guys.. - JAKEw1234
But it does... there's an opportunity cost associated with dedicating one of the limited contract slots on such long shots, especially when it takes a multi-year deal to land most of these guys.
There were a little over 100 undrafted players who played in the NHL last season, out of a league of 800+ players... out of that 100 or so, only a handful were what any of us would consider difference-makers. With the way teams were chasing after the next Fasth or Brunner, you'd think the odds were incredible. |
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KINGKENZO
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Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people Joined: 01.10.2008
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And that's why this team needs to be sellers |
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JAKEw1234
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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But it does... there's an opportunity cost associated with dedicating one of the limited contract slots on such long shots, especially when it takes a multi-year deal to land most of these guys.
There were a little over 100 undrafted players who played in the NHL last season, out of a league of 800+ players... out of that 100 or so, only a handful were what any of us would consider difference-makers. With the way teams were chasing after the next Fasth or Brunner, you'd think the odds were incredible. - Tomahawk
Who would you rather use a roster spot on, a 24 year old 7th round round pick who has shown no promise to ever become an NHL player, or on a 24 year old undrafted player who is a target of multiple teams and is proving himself to be a late bloomer with good potential to become an NHL starter? If he doesn't pan out, then whatever. It's only costing us the roster spot we freed up by cutting the player of zero promise. |
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Doc_Sarcasm
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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And that's why this team needs to be sellers - KINGKENZO
The Phillies piss me off so much right now.
Ruiz: How dare you J-Roll* a ball to left with the winning run on 3rd and nobody out?
Nix: You are so fired if I'm the GM right now.
*J-Rolling is the act of flailing madly at the first pitch and hitting a weak ass pop up somewhere.
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KINGKENZO
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Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people Joined: 01.10.2008
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The Phillies piss me off so much right now.
Ruiz: How dare you J-Roll* a ball to left with the winning run on 3rd and nobody out?
Nix: You are so fired if I'm the GM right now.
*J-Rolling is the act of flailing madly at the first pitch and hitting a weak ass pop up somewhere. - Doc_Sarcasm
For some strange reason, I think the Bruins are going to tie this game and win it in OT |
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The Phillies piss me off so much right now.
Ruiz: How dare you J-Roll* a ball to left with the winning run on 3rd and nobody out?
Nix: You are so fired if I'm the GM right now.
*J-Rolling is the act of flailing madly at the first pitch and hitting a weak ass pop up somewhere. - Doc_Sarcasm
This game should've been over, but that's the story of the season. 2nd and 3rd no outs and can't score. Even my boy Frandsen couldn't get it done.
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