Actually, if you did the math he was on pace for 27 goals this last year. There was no season throughout his career in fact he was on pace for 30 goals or more.
- heh49314

And like I said before, the goal scoring is just a bonus for me. Everything else he also brings to the table makes him a very worth while player to have on board. With him, Voracek, Read, and Talbot on our RW, we're very stacked down the right side.

Something to keep in mind when we get a little closer to the playoffs. We'll need a PWF I agree, but there's no chance we're giving up Nuge to get it (at least not Simmonds).
- Morris

In order for us to land a Simmonds type player we would need to move Yakupov or Eberle to make room for him in the top 6

The problem with EDM is their assets are either worth way too much, or way too little If Hartnell is moved I would hope it's in a package for a top line scoring LWer, otherwise it's not helping the team at all.
- JAKEw1234

I'm totally okay with moving Hartnell for a young top-9 forward. Thats all we really need back. It will give us some cap flexibility moving forward. Between the player we acquire and our pool of prospects, someone will emerge as a guy that can play meaningful minutes.

Hartnell creates a big hole in our line-up if gone, though. So it can't just be any player. It has to be someone that can play now, unless they then use that space to bring back Gagne for cheap (which is the plan if we move a contract)

Schenn-Giroux-Voracek
Gagne-Lecavlier-Simmonds
Talbot-Couturier-Read
Rinaldo-Laughton-Hall

I'm okay with this line-up depending on what we got for Hartnell.

We have pieces you need, and you have pieces we need, you guys are just hoarders
- JAKEw1234

You realize that the asking price for Hall (this is hypothetical as he is probably the only actual "untouchable in Edmonton) would be a horrid overpayment for anyone inquiring right?

and we just gave up Paajarvi and a 2nd for that exact thing, so that won't be happening.

You know I really don't think Edmonton and Philly make good trading partners right now the more I think about it.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

They don't, at all.

You realize that the asking price for Hall (this is hypothetical as he is probably the only actual "untouchable in Edmonton) would be a horrid overpayment for anyone inquiring right?
- TheTaoOfSemenko

What would your price be?

Hey why dont you troll in blogs about your crappy team? Because the Sens are more boring than reading the yellow pages?
- EdEagle

Edmonton fan calling another team crappy, quite hilarious. Your fanbase roots to lose year-over-year because they know there is no hope in winning. Hope you enjoy the top 10 pick and another year in the cellar.

Edmonton fan calling another team crappy quite hilarious. Your fanbase roots to lose year-over-year because they know there is no hope in winning. Hope you enjoy the top 10 pick and another year in the cellar.
- Lipchitz

Straight from the school of most over used, cliched, tired ass and uncreative trolling attempts I've ever seen.

Get lost junior we're talking.

Edmonton fan calling another team crappy quite hilarious. Your fanbase roots to lose year-over-year because they know there is no hope in winning. Hope you enjoy the top 10 pick and another year in the cellar.
- Lipchitz

That's rough. Just so you know, I fully expect the Leafs to be out of playoff contention this year once they'll actually be asked to perform over an 82 game year, instead of a 48 game one. I truly believe that if this past season wasn't shortened your team would've under-performed in the final 20-30 games and fallen out.

What would your price be?
- JAKEw1234

Hartnell, Schenn, Coburn and a 1st.

Not happening from either of our perspectives. Sorry if that comes off homerish but that's kinda what it would take.

Straight from the school of most over used, cliched, tired ass and uncreative
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Are you talking about me or your terrible hockey team?

That's rough. Just so you know, I fully expect the Leafs to be out of playoff contention this year once they'll actually be asked to perform over an 82 game year, instead of a 48 game one. I truly believe that if this past season wasn't shortened your team would've under-performed in the final 20-30 games and fallen out.
- JAKEw1234

Leaf fans are used to losing but, at least we aren't delusional. The Leafs will be in the 10-6 range again next year, barring significant changes. Teams need to take incremental steps to become a contender and the Leafs are on the right path.

Edmonton fans seem to think they are going to jump to the next level by going with the same crappy players as last season, or land a first line player for a combination of Hemsky, Gagner, Smid and Petry.

Are you talking about me or your terrible hockey team?
- Lipchitz

Wow. You suck at this. Just go away.

Amazing how one stupid Leafs fan can lower the collective IQ of what was actually a pretty good convo.

Actually, if you did the math he was on pace for 27 goals this last year. There was no season throughout his career in fact he was on pace for 30 goals or more.
- heh49314

Yeah a 27 goal scorer who plays a complete game - so what you're saying is this guy is exactly what the Oilers are missing - thankyou!!

Amazing how one stupid Leafs fan can lower the collective IQ of what was actually a pretty good convo.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

Good conversation in a cloutier thread, ya right

Now I know you are lying out of your ass.

Leaf fans are used to losing but, at least we aren't delusional. The Leafs will be in the 10-6 range again next year, barring significant changes. Teams need to take incremental steps to become a contender and the Leafs are on the right path.

Edmonton fans seem to think they are going to jump to the next level by going with the same crappy players as last season, or land a first line player for a combination of Hemsky, Gagner, Smid and Petry.
- Lipchitz

If you mean 8-6 in your division, then yes I could see that. You'll never win anything with that Doosher Phaneuf wearing your C. Edmonton is in the next wave of cup contenders along with Florida and Colorado. I'd personally like to see them trade one of Eberle or Yakupov for that top-tier minute eating #1 dman (See Pietrangelo, Alex), as that would definitely put them over the top, but to call 3 1st overall picks, one of the top RWers in the league in Eberle, and a very good center in Gagner a bunch of crappy players just sounds petty and jealous.

Of course you would.

Step 1 in not looking like a homer: Don't use nicknames.

Step 2 in not looking like a homer: Don't use a username that reflects your favorite team.
- rmiethaner

Yeah I'm a homer for picking spezza who is clearly better, tutus they are a wash but turgid is better defensively and zibby because he has good potential

I think a penguins and oilers trade is in the works. I wish pajaarvi hadn't been traded.

Yeah a 27 goal scorer who plays a complete game - so what you're saying is this guy is exactly what the Oilers are missing - thankyou!!
- newmy

Problem is he's already exactly what we need so we'd need to see an over payment from another team to let him go. We do have Read to fill his 2nd line RW spot but Read brings a different skill set than Simmonds.

Yeah I'm a homer for picking spezza who is clearly better, tutus they are a wash but turgid is better defensively and zibby because he has good potential
- 6Karlsson5

Just tuning in, and I don't actually know what players you're comparing here, but may I say that you do indeed come across as a hardcore homer.

Good conversation in a cloutier thread, ya right

Now I know you are lying out of your ass.
- Lipchitz

Normal people typically lie out of their mouths. As I understand basic human physiology, it would be physically impossible to lie out of ones ass as the anus isn't capable of forming words or expelling sounds other than farts.

The convo was pretty chill until you showed up spouting like a clown because someone may have (gasp!) said something uncomplimentary about your precious Maple Leafs. So either be civil or go away.

I think a penguins and oilers trade is in the works. I wish pajaarvi hadn't been traded.
- quinnjj

Do you think that because you have NHL sources reporting it, or do you think that just cause you're a penguins fan and the league obviously revolves around the penguins 24/7?

Problem is he's already exactly what we need so we'd need to see an over payment from another team to let him go. We do have Read to fill his 2nd line RW spot but Read brings a different skill set than Simmonds.
- JAKEw1234

Oh I realize that - I wouldn't move a player like Simmonds anyhow - I was just stating he's the type the Oilers really need. I agree with you, he's way too valuable in every aspect.

So many people just comment on stats & they base a player on stats alone but Simmonds, as you mentioned, does so much more on the ice(beside score) and he's a great teammate, I know he has a foundation in Philly where he helps less fortunate kids with getting them started with hockey.

Great guy all around which is why it would take something special from any team to pry him away from the Flyers & he's exactly a Flyer thru & thru.

Edmonton gets:
Letang
Orpik
Niskanen

Pittsburgh gets:
Petry
Smid
C. Hamilton
Ryan Jones
Klefbom