Thing is, you can find your Rinaldos and Goulbournes in the late rounds and, IMO, there is no need to use a third round pick on that type of player profile.
- bmeltzer

Yeah, that makes sense. Of course you can also get lucky with offensive players in the later rounds. Drafting anybody anywhere has an element of risk involved and the question is how badly you want a certain type of player and how likely you think it is that a player will turn out that way.

We all know that Paul Holmgren likes a certain type of player more than other GMs, for better or for worse. He seems to think Golbourne is a sure thing.

Yeah, that makes sense. Of course you can also get lucky with offensive players in the later rounds. Drafting anybody anywhere has an element of risk involved and the question is how badly you want a certain type of player and how likely you think it is that a player will turn out that way.

We all know that Paul Holmgren likes a certain type of player more than other GMs, for better or for worse. He seems to think Golbourne is a sure thing.
- Coburns_Nose

Ghoul was just a low risk, low reward pick. They could've picked someone that had a higher potential, but they were much more likely to miss. Ghoul is almost a certainty to make the NHL (because he doesn't actually need to improve his hockey skills very much to make it), but he'll be nothing more than a 4th line agitator.

Ghoul was just a low risk, low reward pick. They could've picked someone that had a higher potential, but they were much more likely to miss. Ghoul is almost a certainty to make the NHL (because he doesn't actually need to improve his hockey skills very much to make it), but he'll be nothing more than a 4th line agitator.
- JAKEw1234

Pretty much. You could have also got a guy very much like him two rounds later, and grabbed a player like Jimmy Lodge or Jordan Subban instead of him.

That's great if those players flame out or never reach the NHL, but it would suck if those guys go on to have good NHL careers.

Ghoul was just a low risk, low reward pick. They could've picked someone that had a higher potential, but they were much more likely to miss. Ghoul is almost a certainty to make the NHL (because he doesn't actually need to improve his hockey skills very much to make it), but he'll be nothing more than a 4th line agitator.
- JAKEw1234

I wouldn't go as far as saying he's a certainty. Not that I know he isn't. But I don't think anyone at this point can say that he's a certainty. But for me the bottom line is, if he makes it to the NHL, in any role. Then it was a good pick. But if he doesn't, I'm not going to criticize the pick.

Pretty much. You could have also got a guy very much like him two rounds later, and grabbed a player like Jimmy Lodge or Jordan Subban instead of him.

That's great if those players flame out or never reach the NHL, but it would suck if those guys go on to have good NHL careers.
- Jsaquella

I would've rather had a goalie, personally.

I would've rather had a goalie, personally.
- JAKEw1234

That would have been fine, too. Marcus Hogberg went a couple of picks later.

For the 3rd time, trading down requires a team that wants to trade up and it's incorrect to just assume Homer didn't try to move down.
- JAKEw1234

There were many deals involving trading down, but we don't know if Homer tried. History suggests he didn't, but we'll probably never know.

Exactly, there's questions about his ability to reach that ceiling. I'd be happy if Hagg ended up as a good second pair defenseman for the Flyers. I'm hoping he'll be a Kim Johnsson type guy, but I'm not counting on him being a top pair guy that plays 22-25 minutes a night.
- Jsaquella

Well, Hägg is ahead of Kim Johnsson in one aspect that point of their respective careers. Johnsson was Mr. Irrelevant of the 1994 Draft -- the 286th and final pick.

pick 72 is way too high for a player with a 4th line agitator as his ceiling. IMHO.

Pinachio says his "sources" told him Homer called about Weber. Apparently since a bulk of money has all ready been paid, they aren't moving him. I say balderdash, Weber will be a Flyer by Friday night. Its why I feel Homer has held off trades.

.I say balderdash, Weber will be a Flyer by Friday night. Its why I feel Homer has held off trades.
- Deasr1

Pinachio says his "sources" told him Homer called about Weber. Apparently since a bulk of money has all ready been paid, they aren't moving him. I say balderdash, Weber will be a Flyer by Friday night. Its why I feel Homer has held off trades.
- Deasr1

I have a better chance at getting in a 3 way with Jessica Alba and Kate Upton

Well, Hägg is ahead of Kim Johnsson in one aspect that point of their respective careers. Johnsson was Mr. Irrelevant of the 1994 Draft -- the 286th and final pick.
- bmeltzer

Time to sign him to an 8 year, $66mm contract

Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Golbourne and Low-Ceiling Drafting
- bmeltzer

I agree

Pinachio says his "sources" told him Homer called about Weber. Apparently since a bulk of money has all ready been paid, they aren't moving him. I say balderdash, Weber will be a Flyer by Friday night. Its why I feel Homer has held off trades.
- Deasr1

Or maybe it's cause he's waiting for Mez to be cleared to play

Or maybe it's cause he's waiting for Mez to be cleared to play
- JAKEw1234

Mesz will be back by next month. That's what the answer is to that question every time. Next month.

Exactly, there's questions about his ability to reach that ceiling. I'd be happy if Hagg ended up as a good second pair defenseman for the Flyers. I'm hoping he'll be a Kim Johnsson type guy, but I'm not counting on him being a top pair guy that plays 22-25 minutes a night.
- Jsaquella

Kim Johnsson was awesome. I'll take that 7 days a week.

Did everyone see that Pit is ranked favorite to win the cup in 2014? http://www.thescore.com/h...s-to-win-2014-stanley-cup

While Vegas knows little about the NHL, it is still interesting.

Also, NJ is in a bad place. They have little assets to trade and now must look to the UFA bargain bin for help on both D and F. Their Gtending is solid but they have huge holes up and down the lineup.

I have a better chance at getting in a 3 way with Jessica Alba and Kate Upton
- Sabreshark

Link?

Live web feed?

Mesz will be back by next month. That's what the answer is to that question every time. Next month.
- TonyBazz

Mez will be cleared in like a week and a half.

Pretty much. You could have also got a guy very much like him two rounds later, and grabbed a player like Jimmy Lodge or Jordan Subban instead of him.

That's great if those players flame out or never reach the NHL, but it would suck if those guys go on to have good NHL careers.
- Jsaquella

I wanted J Subban

I don't buy the "he is better then me" comment by PK, BUT he was very worth the pick in my opinion.

Kim Johnsson was awesome. I'll take that 7 days a week.

Did everyone see that Pit is ranked favorite to win the cup in 2014? http://www.thescore.com/h...s-to-win-2014-stanley-cup

While Vegas knows little about the NHL, it is still interesting.

Also, NJ is in a bad place. They have little assets to trade and now must look to the UFA bargain bin for help on both D and F. Their Gtending is solid but they have huge holes up and down the lineup.
- coffee junkie

Obviously they gave Carolina, Washington, Edmonton, and the Maple Leafs far and away a better chance at winning it all than us I don't see any of those teams even making the playoffs next year

Obviously they gave Carolina, Washington, Edmonton, and the Maple Leafs far and away a better chance at winning it all than us I don't see any of those teams even making the playoffs next year
- JAKEw1234

I think the Leafs will be in the mix. Washington depends on one player- OV. CAR has big names but terrible depth. They could squeak in if they have little injuries and Ward plays like he can. Yeah I agree, I think they put the Flyers too low but I'm cool with that. Underdogs!

Kim Johnsson was awesome. I'll take that 7 days a week.

Did everyone see that Pit is ranked favorite to win the cup in 2014? http://www.thescore.com/h...s-to-win-2014-stanley-cup

While Vegas knows little about the NHL, it is still interesting.

Also, NJ is in a bad place. They have little assets to trade and now must look to the UFA bargain bin for help on both D and F. Their Gtending is solid but they have huge holes up and down the lineup.
- coffee junkie

seriously. newark is a poophole

I think the Leafs will be in the mix. Washington depends on one player- OV. CAR has big names but terrible depth. They could squeak in if they have little injuries and Ward plays like he can. Yeah I agree, I think they put the Flyers too low but I'm cool with that. Underdogs!
- coffee junkie

We must be the most stacked underdog team in the history of the NHL

- bmeltzer