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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 15 @ 2:15 PM ET
King Clancy is your God for all officiating-related prayers.
Marcel Pronovost is your God for injury-related offering.

- jmatchett383


Old King Clancy!
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 15 @ 2:15 PM ET
If it had won them a Cup, would you still hate it.
- jmatchett383



Maybe it would have bumped it from hate up to ambivalent.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 15 @ 2:16 PM ET
Had the Flyers won the Cup in 2010 the Pronger trade would surely been worth paying the price. Of course they didn't win, and he suffered a career ending injury which has caused the Flyers to essentially chase their tails since.

The hockey gods are a cruel bunch.

- PLindbergh31


"I'd rather pray to the gods of tits and wine"
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 15 @ 2:18 PM ET
I think you meant Ace Bailey there...
- mayorofangrytown


Absolutely not. Pronovost was the most injured man in hockey history.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 15 @ 2:18 PM ET
"I'd rather pray to the gods of tits and wine"
- KINGKENZO


That would be Larry Flint.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 15 @ 2:19 PM ET
Simply demoting those kids before day 1 will get them cap compliant in time to max Pronger's LTIR exemption. That's good news. They can keep Mez too, while bringing everybody back up before game 1.

But they really can't sign anyone between now and day 1 if they hope to go this route.

- Tomahawk


Probably late, but...as soon as B Schenn misses 1 game, his cap hit drops dramatically as well.

So there's that.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 15 @ 2:20 PM ET
"I'd rather pray to the gods of tits and wine"
- KINGKENZO


That's my kind of god...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 15 @ 2:20 PM ET
Probably late, but...as soon as B Schenn misses 1 game, his cap hit drops dramatically as well.

So there's that.

- wolfhounds


Yes, but you have to sit him for a game. As long as they can fit him into the opening night lineup, his cap hit will drop dramatically after 1 game (assuming he plays less than 25 minutes).
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 15 @ 2:20 PM ET
Probably late, but...as soon as B Schenn misses 1 game, his cap hit drops dramatically as well.

So there's that.

- wolfhounds



I think they had to scratch him from the first game before they could permanently lower his cap-hit for accounting purposes.
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jul 15 @ 2:21 PM ET
That would be Larry Flint.
- jmatchett383



Or Tyrion, No?
Marshalle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jul 15 @ 2:22 PM ET
Probably late, but...as soon as B Schenn misses 1 game, his cap hit drops dramatically as well.

So there's that.

- wolfhounds

How so?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 15 @ 2:22 PM ET
Or Tyrion, No?
- moylander

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 15 @ 2:22 PM ET
Or Tyrion, No?
- moylander


Tyrion isn't as ruthless as Larry Flint. Tyrion was out only for himself, Larry Flint is out to disgrace whatever political/religious figures he can.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 15 @ 2:24 PM ET
I think they had to scratch him from the first game before they could permanently lower his cap-hit for accounting purposes.
- Tomahawk


Yup. The terms of his bonuses are something like playing every regular season game and playing for 25+ minutes per. So no matter how you break it down, 1 game into the season his cap hit takes a nosedive...but to your point, getting to Game 1 is a different story.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 15 @ 2:25 PM ET
Absolutely not. Pronovost was the most injured man in hockey history.
- jmatchett383

Injured enough to have his skull crushed and for the NHL to initiate the All Star game for his benefit?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 15 @ 2:25 PM ET
Probably late, but...as soon as B Schenn misses 1 game, his cap hit drops dramatically as well.

So there's that.

- wolfhounds



The bonuses written into Schenn's contract are different for every year. I'm not 100% positive. But I beleive that the games played bonus is not part of his bonus package for the 3rd year of his EL deal.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 15 @ 2:26 PM ET
How so?
- Marshalle


He has a bonus structure built into his contract that prior to the start of the season is counted in full.

Good write up here.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 15 @ 2:27 PM ET
The bonuses written into Schenn's contract are different for every year. I'm not 100% positive. But I beleive that the games played bonus is not part of his bonus package for the 3rd year of his EL deal.
- MJL


If correct, that's quite interesting. I didn't know that, or even think it a possibility.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 15 @ 2:27 PM ET
Yup. The terms of his bonuses are something like playing every regular season game and playing for 25+ minutes per. So no matter how you break it down, 1 game into the season his cap hit takes a nosedive...but to your point, getting to Game 1 is a different story.
- wolfhounds



There's a bonus cushion this year, so no need to do that again w/ Schenn.

The kids don't even have to miss any games to perform that little bit of cap wizardry that we were talking about, since the cap is calculated daily and not by game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 15 @ 2:28 PM ET
He has a bonus structure built into his contract that prior to the start of the season is counted in full.

Good write up here.

- wolfhounds



There was no bonus cushion available that Season. So the Flyers were forced to do that to get Cap compliant.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 15 @ 2:30 PM ET
Regarding the 10% cap cushion and LTIR...does the one run out at exactly the same time the other kicks in?
Marshalle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jul 15 @ 2:31 PM ET
He has a bonus structure built into his contract that prior to the start of the season is counted in full.

Good write up here.

- wolfhounds

So it still applies or did the new CBA nullify that contract escalator.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 15 @ 2:37 PM ET
Injured enough to have his skull crushed and for the NHL to initiate the All Star game for his benefit?
- mayorofangrytown


Let me clarify: highest quantity of injuries while playing in the NHL.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 15 @ 2:37 PM ET
Regarding the 10% cap cushion and LTIR...does the one run out at exactly the same time the other kicks in?
- wolfhounds



I think they coincide with each other.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 15 @ 2:37 PM ET
Regarding the 10% cap cushion and LTIR...does the one run out at exactly the same time the other kicks in?
- wolfhounds



LTIR doesn't kick in until it's actually used. Teams have to be cap compliant on the last day of training camp.
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