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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:46 PM ET
OMGs!!!!

We're referencing Jsaq articles now?

The end is nigh!!!!

- mayorofangrytown




jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:50 PM ET
Here is something fun. The Flyers all-time Bum team. My friend and I were doing this, him with the rangers and me with the Flyers. You pick out the biggest bums ever to play at least a season for your team. Either they were draft busts, or you hated them.

I'll give you my first line...

Daigle-Gratton-Zherdev
Walker-R.Jones

Bryzgalov

- youarewrong


As much as I'm a fan of hating Jones, I think you have to go Rathje on that one. Then it's a toss-up between Walker and Modry. I'd go Modry, only because the Flyers actually played him in the playoffs. Gratton's though, because he had 22 goals in his first season, but 1 the next year.

I'm also gonna replace Daigle because, as I've always said...No matter what the question is, Alexander Daigle is never the answer!

Hlavac-Gratton-Zherdev
Rathje-Modry

Hackett (vertigo)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:51 PM ET
Hey, the bum talk is the jurisdiction of jmatchett and MJL. Thankfully, they've taken their posterior talk to PM's.
- Flyskippy


I feel like I'm finally accepted. You sorta-kinda deal with me, you really sorta-kinda deal with me!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:53 PM ET
Does anyone remember Marty Murray? He was kinda like Powe, with some more offensive pop and less hitting. Small, fast guy who worked his tail off every shift. I really liked him.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:54 PM ET
Here is something fun. The Flyers all-time Bum team. My friend and I were doing this, him with the rangers and me with the Flyers. You pick out the biggest bums ever to play at least a season for your team. Either they were draft busts, or you hated them.

I'll give you my first line...

Daigle-Gratton-Zherdev
Walker-R.Jones

Bryzgalov

- youarewrong

Bullard - Primeau - Recchi
Carkner - Duschene
Snow
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:55 PM ET
Does anyone remember Marty Murray? He was kinda like Powe, with some more offensive pop and less hitting. Small, fast guy who worked his tail off every shift. I really liked him.
- jmatchett383


What about Rem Murray and Paul Ranheim.... Oh another for my bum like... Mike Singleton....
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:55 PM ET
Bullard - Primeau - Recchi
Carkner - Duschene
Snow

- mayorofangrytown


johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 17 @ 2:55 PM ET
Bullard - Primeau - Recchi
Carkner - Duschene
Snow

- mayorofangrytown


Terry Carkner was just the worst, Jerry. The worst!
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:56 PM ET
Bullard - Primeau - Recchi
Carkner - Duschene
Snow

- mayorofangrytown



You mean Wayne Primeau right?
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jul 17 @ 2:56 PM ET
Clarke was a good GM for the pre salary cap era. Homer is a good GM for the post salary cap era. I'm not sure why Clarke get hammered around here. We had more sucess outside of winning a cup with Clarke as GM then just about anyone else. I started watching hockey in 96. 96-the season without a name, we were one of the most dominate teams in the league.
- youarewrong


One of the main criticisms of Clarke and the Flyers while he was GM was that he was slow to adapt. He was still constructing teams of bigger, slower, stronger players (players that would thrive in the clutch and grab era) when most of the rest of the league has embraced the rules changes and adapted more quickly. I think those criticisms are reasonable to some degree, but not to the point where I would label him, or his entire career as a GM as "bad".

Under Holmgren, some criticism seems to be the exact opposite. Rather than sticking with the same old formula, the Flyers (and many other NHL teams to be fair) seem to be trying to win last year's Cup by revamping their team in the style of the previous Cup winner, or at least attempting to do that. Much of what I see written in here and other places seems to want Holmgren to pick a strategy and stick to it (which he seems to be doing so far this offseason). That was never really something for which Clarke was criticized.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 2:57 PM ET
What about Rem Murray and Paul Ranheim.... Oh another for my bum like... Mike Singleton....
- youarewrong


Well, there's tons. Jody Hull, Randy Robitaille, John Sim, Turner Stevenson, Kyle Calder. Hard to make best bums line.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 17 @ 2:57 PM ET
I feel like I'm finally accepted. You sorta-kinda deal with me, you really sorta-kinda deal with me!
- jmatchett383

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 17 @ 2:57 PM ET

- GirouxForTheShow

You had to know it was coming....


Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 17 @ 2:58 PM ET
What about Rem Murray and Paul Ranheim.... Oh another for my bum like... Mike Singleton....
- youarewrong

Ranheim? Sorry you don't like good PK'ers.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 17 @ 2:59 PM ET
Well, there's tons. Jody Hull, Randy Robitaille, John Sim, Turner Stevenson, Kyle Calder. Hard to make best bums line.
- jmatchett383

Jody Hull wasn't a bum. Another solid PK'er.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 3:00 PM ET

- Flyskippy


Also, MJL just couldn't hang. I have a theory that there's something permanently shoved way up in there.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 3:02 PM ET
Jody Hull wasn't a bum. Another solid PK'er.
- Flyskippy


Jody Hull has a special place in my heart. When they reacquired him, my dad was listening to WIP. I think it was Miscinelli (sp?) who said, "Big announcement: The Flyers have acquired one of the biggest names in hockey. That's right, they have acquired Hull," at which point my dad screamed, "Not Jody Hull AGAIN!" It just made me laugh, and I'll always remember him as the other Hull.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 17 @ 3:08 PM ET
Also, MJL just couldn't hang. I have a theory that there's something permanently shoved way up in there.
- jmatchett383

Try cheese or peanut butter on a trap.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jul 17 @ 3:13 PM ET
Ranheim? Sorry you don't like good PK'ers.
- Flyskippy


What was that line? Ranheim, Kent Mendenville?, and Hull?

Meh... I miss old time hockey. Hockey has been boring for me since 2004.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 17 @ 3:15 PM ET
Petr Nedved, Mike York, Billy Tibbits

Randy Holt, Ulf Samuelsson

Honorable mention: Steve Eminger
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jul 17 @ 3:17 PM ET
1. Current Flyer - Still Pronger altho Luke Schenn is gaining some ground.
2. Flyers Prospect - Wellwood
3. Non-Flyer - forgive me but Callahan
4. Non-Flyers Prospect - don't really have one
5. Former Flyer - most ex Flyers irk me. Jagr I guess. I still am bitter with LA to say Richards
6. Flyer Ever - toss up between Bernie and Lindros
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 17 @ 3:18 PM ET
[quote=five4fighting10]
1. Current Flyer - Timonen
2. Flyers Prospect - Hagg
3. Non-Flyer - Shane Doan
4. Non-Flyers Prospect - Seth Jones
5. Former Flyer - Justin Williams
6. Flyer ever - Bernie Parent
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 17 @ 3:19 PM ET
Well, there's tons. Jody Hull, Randy Robitaille, John Sim, Turner Stevenson, Kyle Calder. Hard to make best bums line.
- jmatchett383

Geoff Sanderson and Adam Oates.... he was a bum for us....
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 17 @ 3:20 PM ET
Petr Nedved, Mike York, Billy Tibbits

Randy Holt, Ulf Samuelsson

Honorable mention: Steve Eminger

- 77rams


A lazy old man, a mid-2000s former Islander, a former convict, a thing I know nothing about, and a knee-breaking cheapshot artist.

Aside from Mike York, it sounds like the 2012 Baltimore Ravens.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 17 @ 3:23 PM ET
Geoff Sanderson and Adam Oates.... he was a bum for us....
- youarewrong


oh oh Mike Sillinger......
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