I actaully graduated from Wilm U with my education degree. There are school districts that are good, and ones that are bad. Appiquinimik (sp) is really good. Colonial Suck. Red Clay has a mix.... it just depends. I've done time in each school district, and went to Private my entire life. As someone that almost became a teacher, and going by how the governement gets involved in education, I would never send my kid to public school.
- youarewrong

wait a minute


you graduated with an education degree and can't get you're your right...


dude



that's wild stuff

pretty sure the theory is that any guy who has good power numbers, slugging %, etc..will rack up RBIs if you hit him in the middle of a lineup that routinely has guys on base in front of him

in other words its the other stats that really tell the story.. far more than RBI numbers
- Crimsoninja

If that is the theory, that's exactly why I'm not a huge believer in advanced stats. That type of flawed thinking.

rank these goaltenders based on their time with the flyers (predictive for emery and mason)*:

biron, bryz, nitty, esche, boosh, leighton, emery, mason

*ranking for talent... not like "player a played x more games so he accomplished more as a flyer" or anything like that. basically seeing where people think our current goalies fit in with these other guys as far as talent goes
- FlyerMike18

emery mason bob

emery mason bob
- Don'tForgetTocchet

i intentionally left bob off

wait a minute


you graduated with an education degree and can't get you're your right...


dude



- Don'tForgetTocchet

1. wasnt going to be an english teacher.

2. typing in a forum, not writing formally.

3. dyslexic

No one is stopping you from talking about things you want to talk about.
- youarewrong

Very true. Sadly, it appears no-one is stopping you either.

i think i get what they're driving at from a "predicting future returns" angle (if you are building a team, looking at the runs a guy's driven in before might not be the best predictor of future rbis)

it starts to piss me off when people write-off rbis as indicators of a successful season, however (heard a lot of this last year during the al mvp talks). driving in runs is pretty much the definition of success as a hitter. whether or not he can repeat it is one thing, but if a guy kills it with rbi's it's pretty silly to say he didn't have a successful year at the plate. just my opinion

EDIT: same for hockey (rbi's roughly equivalent to goals...the "payoff")
- FlyerMike18

agreed man

but again RBIs is mainly just a big indicator of success for 4-hole hitter.. and to a lesser extent a 3 or 5 hole guy

and depends alot on what the other guys in the lineup do

If this team struggles out of the gate, they will hard pressed to make the playoffs.

In March (where they get a lot of home ice), every game they play is against a playoff team from last season.

Then in April they're on the road again--with heavy travel--St. Louis to Philly to Boston to Philly to Florida (for a 3rd game in 4 nights) to Tampa to Pitt to Philly.

Yikes.

Very true. Sadly, it appears no-one is stopping you either.

- BringBack25

They have tried. Oh have they tried. But like a weed, I keep popping up.

i intentionally left bob off
- FlyerMike18

don't think we didn't notice

If that is the theory, that's exactly why I'm not a huge believer in advanced stats. That type of flawed thinking.
- MJL

im not into all this enough to properly explain the thinking obviously, but i assume that is the gist

what is so flawed about it in your eyes? (honest question)

Very true. Sadly, it appears no-one is stopping you either.

- BringBack25

pretty sure it's stoping

does a manager bat a guy 4th because he is "clutch" and "good at driving in runs"

or because the guy gets hits, hits for power and has a good slugging percentage?

This was on Fred Shero's blackboard before game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final in 1975:

One man with a dream, at pleasure,
Shall go forth and conquer a crown;
And three with a new song's measure
Can trample an empire down.

I've been thinking about this for 38 years. One of the reasons we loved Fred... he was always thinking and he made those around him think.

does a manager bat a guy 4th because he is "clutch" and "good at driving in runs"

or because the guy gets hits, hits for power and has a good slugging percentage?
- Crimsoninja

could you guys all go discuss this in wilmington?

thanks

If that is the theory, that's exactly why I'm not a huge believer in advanced stats. That type of flawed thinking.
- MJL

Agreed. Stats are so boring. Give me CBA legal jargin any day of the week.

does a manager bat a guy 4th because he is "clutch" and "good at driving in runs"

or because the guy gets hits, hits for power and has a good slugging percentage?
- Crimsoninja

I thought managers put guys who flail at low-and-away sliders in the four-hole.

This was on Fred Shero's blackboard before game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final in 1975:

One man with a dream, at pleasure,
Shall go forth and conquer a crown;
And three with a new song's measure
Can trample an empire down.

I've been thinking about this for 38 years. One of the reasons we loved Fred... he was always thinking and he made those around him think.
- 2731color

Wait, who plays left field?

agreed man

but again RBIs is mainly just a big indicator of success for 4-hole hitter.. and to a lesser extent a 3 or 5 hole guy

and depends alot on what the other guys in the lineup do
- Crimsoninja

oh i agree. different players definitely have different roles and it's all important in the end. i just mean that it's the action which most directly changes the numbers on the scoreboard (in a positive way). i guess you could argue scoring runs, but that seems more passive from a hitting standpoint because you weren't the guy with the bat in your hand for the scoring play. definitely arguable though

that's at least why i'd compare it to goalscoring

could you guys all go discuss this in wilmington?

thanks
- Don'tForgetTocchet

hater

This was on Fred Shero's blackboard before game 6 of the Stanley Cup Final in 1975:

One man with a dream, at pleasure,
Shall go forth and conquer a crown;
And three with a new song's measure
Can trample an empire down.

I've been thinking about this for 38 years. One of the reasons we loved Fred... he was always thinking and he made those around him think.
- 2731color

Come forth Lazarus! And he came fifth and lost the job.

does a manager bat a guy 4th because he is "clutch" and "good at driving in runs"

or because the guy gets hits, hits for power and has a good slugging percentage?
- Crimsoninja

yes?

im not into all this enough to properly explain the thinking obviously, but i assume that is the gist

what is so flawed about it in your eyes? (honest question)
- Crimsoninja

What's flawed is that somehow, the guys getting on base ahead of the RBI guy are more important. If that is the gist of it. I watched some recent Phillies games. One game against the White Sox, game was tied going to the bottom of the 9th. Phillies led off with 2 hits. Had 2nd and 3rd with nobody out. Then strikeout, shallow flyout to left, not deep enough to score a sac. And a line out to right. Those hits then met nothing. Because no one knocked them in. Saw another game where Utley led off with a double. And then never moved from 2nd. It's a team. Guys need to get on base. And guys need to knock them in. There's a reason why top RBI guys make 20+ million a year. And leadoff single and double hitters don't.

Agreed. Stats are so boring. Give me CBA legal jargin any day of the week.
- youarewrong

Zing!

does a manager bat a guy 4th because he is "clutch" and "good at driving in runs"

or because the guy gets hits, hits for power and has a good slugging percentage?
- Crimsoninja

I would like to use a life-line.