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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Where does it take him with his RFA status., that is the big thing with this deal. - coffee junkie
He should still be an RFA at the end of the deal. |
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Where does it take him with his RFA status., that is the big thing with this deal. - coffee junkie
he'll be what, 23 when the deal runs out? no way that's already into ufa (even though i can't recite the rule off hand) |
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He should still be an RFA at the end of the deal. - Tomahawk
Absurdly good signing by Homer then. Blackmail?
Why would Coots sign that? Worth at least 2.5 or 3. |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Mason first and foremost is going to make the biggest difference getting out of our own end. Streit didn't need to be a timonen replacement. He's more a Mez replacement. An Expensive one yes. The kimmo replacement will come next summer - Just5
Streit isn't even a Mez replacement on the defensive side, though, and that's why it doesn't make much sense for them to add him and now be looking to salary-dump Mez when d-zone play was their Achilles heel last season.
Mason's puck-handling will be handy, but jury's still out whether he's even an upgrade over Bryz in terms of stopping the puck. If he's not, Emery had better be as good as he was last year, or the Flyers will be in trouble. |
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opeth_pa
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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seems everyone loves this deal....
Travis Yost
@TravisHeHateMe
Man, that's a fantastic move by Philadelphia to get Couturier at $1.75MM AAV through 2016.
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Absurdly good signing by Homer then. Blackmail?
Why would Coots sign that? Worth at least 2.5 or 3. - coffee junkie
The guaranteed portion of his salary more than doubled, so it's not like he's not getting a bump in pay. The timing is a bit funny for him though... you'd think his agent would have held out until after he bounced back offensively, instead of rushing to the table. Maybe Couts doesn't want to give Homer any reason to trade him until he's had a chance to pull a PK Subban? |
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isaiah520
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Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it" Joined: 12.26.2006
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The guaranteed portion of his salary more than doubled, so it's not like he's not getting a bump in pay. The timing is a bit funny for him though... you'd think his agent would have held out until after he bounced back offensively, instead of rushing to the table. Maybe Couts doesn't want to give Homer any reason to trade him until he's had a chance to pull a PK Subban? - Tomahawk
jets wouldn't trade bogo for him unless he was signed |
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isaiah520
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Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it" Joined: 12.26.2006
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randy miller getting hammered on XM for his unprofessionalism post bryz CBO. well deserved... |
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seems everyone loves this deal....
Travis Yost
@TravisHeHateMe
Man, that's a fantastic move by Philadelphia to get Couturier at $1.75MM AAV through 2016. - opeth_pa
What did I miss?? |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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What did I miss?? - dingo8urbaby
Weber to Philly |
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Weber to Philly - jmatchett383
A joke becomes less funny when you hear the same one every day |
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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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Added my take on Couturier deal to today's blog. |
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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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Absurdly good signing by Homer then. Blackmail?
Why would Coots sign that? Worth at least 2.5 or 3. - coffee junkie
He signed it because he's getting a raise, is unlikely to get an offer-sheet elsewhere and will be in position to make a huge raise if he blossoms offensively by the time he's up for renegotiation again in 2015.
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mydoglicks
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Location: downingtown, PA Joined: 06.25.2009
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nice cooty signing, that will extinguish his name in trade rumors a few weeks...now it will be schenn+read+laughton+coburn for either ap or sw |
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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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randy miller getting hammered on XM for his unprofessionalism post bryz CBO. well deserved... - isaiah520
I consider Randy a friend, so I will say this: He's actually a real good guy, good writer and very passionate about his job. His biggest flaw is that he gets too emotional and sometimes his temper gets the best of him.
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isaiah520
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Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it" Joined: 12.26.2006
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I consider Randy a friend, so I will say this: He's actually a real good guy, good writer and very passionate about his job. His biggest flaw is that he gets too emotional and sometimes his temper gets the best of him. - bmeltzer
fair enuf |
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FlyerAdam30
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Location: Sewell, NJ Joined: 04.15.2012
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Good deal. Having him signed for this season plus two more after that at under 2 million is great. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Let's not forget that Grossmann has a history of ongoing injury concerns, too.
As for Streit, what they desperately needed was somebody to take the tough matchups off of Timonen's hands now and in the future. What they got instead was a 3rd-pairing PP specialist when they were already top-3 in PP% and in the top third of the league in goals-for.
The Islanders were only a slightly better defensive team than the Flyers and Capuano had to hide Streit on the third-pairing at ES, especially in the PO's when he just didn't trust him to be out there against Malkin and Crosby. The Flyers could hope that pairing him w/ Grossmann or Coburn might mitigate his shortcomings, but then again Gervais was like an anchor around Coburn when they were paired up last year, and Gervais and Streit are similar players in their own zone.
People will also assume that his puck-moving should help them get out of their own end with more regularity, but that tune might change once we see his lack of foot speed and strength become a root cause for the team being hemmed in the d-zone when he's on the ice. - Tomahawk
The Flyers and the fans know what they got in Streit. No one is under the illusion that they acquired Streit to take Timonen's place. The Flyers have Schenn, Coburn, and Grossmann to play the tough minutes. Defense is a team game, and involves all the players on the ice, not just one defenseman. If the Flyers don't improve defensively as a team overall, it's not going to matter. Meszaros' injury history far outweighs Grossmann's in my opinion.
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AllInForFlyers
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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Good deal. Having him signed for this season plus two more after that at under 2 million is great. - FlyerAdam30
Agreed -- it's a good contract, reflects real-world accomplishments, and is no-risk to either side.
The Flyers don't nickel-and-dime players they want to keep, anyway. This deal is simply reflective of where Sean Couturier is in his development.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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The guaranteed portion of his salary more than doubled, so it's not like he's not getting a bump in pay. The timing is a bit funny for him though... you'd think his agent would have held out until after he bounced back offensively, instead of rushing to the table. Maybe Couts doesn't want to give Homer any reason to trade him until he's had a chance to pull a PK Subban? - Tomahawk
Unless he had a monstrous offensive Season, his deal wouldn't change much. Good deal for both sides.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Absurdly good signing by Homer then. Blackmail?
Why would Coots sign that? Worth at least 2.5 or 3. - coffee junkie
Nah, he's not worth 2.5 or 3. He pretty much doubled his salary with this deal.
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AllInForFlyers
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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The Flyers and the fans know what they got in Streit. No one is under the illusion that they acquired Streit to take Timonen's place. The Flyers have Schenn, Coburn, and Grossmann to play the tough minutes. Defense is a team game, and involves all the players on the ice, not just one defenseman. If the Flyers don't improve defensively as a team overall, it's not going to matter. Meszaros' injury history far outweighs Grossmann's in my opinion. - MJL
Agreed -- I am absolutely aware that we got a third-pair defenseman who should not be playing hard minutes against some of the league's better players.
I am aware that Mark Streit's value was inflated due to free agency.
Neither of those two things matter to me, because we had to get a guy in here to do what Mark Streit does while the young defensemen we've drafted develop.
As always, there's risk. But there's risk in every single aspect of hockey, and the alternative to not having someone with Mark Streit's skillset for another season -- that alternative is simply unacceptable.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Agreed -- I am absolutely aware that we got a third-pair defenseman who should not be playing hard minutes against some of the league's better players.
I am aware that Mark Streit's value was inflated due to free agency.
Neither of those two things matter to me, because we had to get a guy in here to do what Mark Streit does while the young defensemen we've drafted develop.
As always, there's risk. But there's risk in every single aspect of hockey, and the alternative to not having someone with Mark Streit's skillset for another season -- that alternative is simply unacceptable. - AllInForFlyers
Very well said.
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edmac812
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Location: Dry Island, PA Joined: 12.31.2006
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From here on I am calling it the "Gary Bettman f'n sucks division!" - BiggE
I like this suggestion better. Metropolitan Division???
WTF does that even mean?
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