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hon_hon_hon
Montreal Canadiens
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Joined: 04.09.2012

Jul 25 @ 10:09 AM ET

- jugkope


She must be annoying as hell.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 25 @ 10:10 AM ET
6. The Montreal Canadiens deal F Lars Eller and D Dalton Thrower to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for F Justin Williams.

after reading this on those clowns' trade wars blog and seeing both sets of fans not particularly like the deal i wanted to float a couple of things your guys way and see what you thought....

what would you guys think of eller, tinordi & a 2nd for williams, clifford, & muzzin.

from an age perspective...LE is 24, JT is 21, JW is 31, KC is 22, & JM is 24.

what you would get...

JW - 33 pts in 48 gms last year. led the entire NHL in the corsi last year(over 10 gms) and was 5th 2 years ago(over 30 gms). great leader. clutch.

KC - size and physicality that you guys are looking for. good skater. only missed 7 games ghe last 3 years. tied for most points in career in only 48 gms last year.

JM - 6'3" 215 - led kings in +/-. was #2(behind JW) in NHL in corsi last year. good mix of Off skill and physicality. cannon shot for the PP. was on pace for 13 goals in 82 gm season last yr.

no need for me to descibe what youd be giving up. you already know.
so what do you think? is that a good return for the canadians? not enough? would getting muzzin make it easier to trade JT considering hes only 3 year older? would this trade work from your team and organizational depth point of view? in terms of posession, would the thought of a max-DD-williams line make sense to you guys considering that would have(left to right) the 6th, 22nd & 1st best corsi's in the nhl on the same line?

thanks in advance...just looking for a different perspective on the value of both sets of players.

- good2b_the_king


i say no, not because it's not a fair trade, i just don't like the fact that the key piece coming Montreal's way is turning 32 this year, while we give up a 24 yo and a 21 yo. i don't like any trade that makes us older, especially after signing Briere and Parros in the offseason. this team isn't a contender yet.
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:11 AM ET
She must be annoying as hell.
- hon_hon_hon


Dunno. Never talked to her.
hon_hon_hon
Montreal Canadiens
Location: @hon_hon_hon# re #price @habs I hope @# they call @# him up. -@#hon_hon_hon #@#! #112v #k#1r3@
Joined: 04.09.2012

Jul 25 @ 10:11 AM ET
You a doctor AND a psychologist now ?
- BashCH


I guess so.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:11 AM ET
meh
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 25 @ 10:12 AM ET
"If you wanted to talk hockey, you came to the wrong place..."

too funny. no worries.

- good2b_the_king


NOOOOO!!! i answered!
hon_hon_hon
Montreal Canadiens
Location: @hon_hon_hon# re #price @habs I hope @# they call @# him up. -@#hon_hon_hon #@#! #112v #k#1r3@
Joined: 04.09.2012

Jul 25 @ 10:12 AM ET
meh
- Pecafan Fan


I don't get this dress up like a videogame or manga or whatever character so that random geeks can fap thingy.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:12 AM ET
i say no, not because it's not a fair trade, i just don't like the fact that the key piece coming Montreal's way is turning 32 this year, while we give up a 24 yo and a 21 yo. i don't like any trade that makes us older, especially after signing Briere and Parros in the offseason. this team isn't a contender yet.
- Gary_B.


That said, Justin Williams is clutch in the playoffs.


Also, didn't he gauge Koivu's eye out a few years ago?
hon_hon_hon
Montreal Canadiens
Location: @hon_hon_hon# re #price @habs I hope @# they call @# him up. -@#hon_hon_hon #@#! #112v #k#1r3@
Joined: 04.09.2012

Jul 25 @ 10:14 AM ET
That said, Justin Williams is clutch in the playoffs.


Also, didn't he gauge Koivu's eye out a few years ago?

- Pecafan Fan


hon_hon_hon
Montreal Canadiens
Location: @hon_hon_hon# re #price @habs I hope @# they call @# him up. -@#hon_hon_hon #@#! #112v #k#1r3@
Joined: 04.09.2012

Jul 25 @ 10:14 AM ET
i say no, not because it's not a fair trade, i just don't like the fact that the key piece coming Montreal's way is turning 32 this year, while we give up a 24 yo and a 21 yo. i don't like any trade that makes us older, especially after signing Briere and Parros in the offseason. this team isn't a contender yet.
- Gary_B.


Muzzin is a good prospect.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 25 @ 10:14 AM ET
That said, Justin Williams is clutch in the playoffs.


Also, didn't he gauge Koivu's eye out a few years ago?

- Pecafan Fan


he is but i don't think that move is in line with what MB is trying to do--keep the team competitive enough to keep his job while he builds a core through the draft and has the luxury of supplementing that core through trades.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 25 @ 10:16 AM ET
I don't get this dress up like a videogame or manga or whatever character so that random geeks can fap thingy.
- hon_hon_hon


Can't say I'd do it. Although it gives girls another reason to dress like whores without feeling like one...so I can't complain.
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:18 AM ET
Can't say I'd do it. Although it gives girls another reason to dress like whores without feeling like one...so I can't complain.
- BashCH


Pretty much the answer I expected
hon_hon_hon
Montreal Canadiens
Location: @hon_hon_hon# re #price @habs I hope @# they call @# him up. -@#hon_hon_hon #@#! #112v #k#1r3@
Joined: 04.09.2012

Jul 25 @ 10:18 AM ET
Can't say I'd do it. Although it gives girls another reason to dress like whores without feeling like one...so I can't complain.
- BashCH


She's clearly an attention whore.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 25 @ 10:19 AM ET
She's clearly an attention whore.
- hon_hon_hon


Clearly...didn't say I'd marry one either.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:20 AM ET
he is but i don't think that move is in line with what MB is trying to do--keep the team competitive enough to keep his job while he builds a core through the draft and has the luxury of supplementing that core through trades.
- Gary_B.


Of course.

But that said, if you can get rid of a few vets in the off season (next summer), a guy like Williams could come in handy.

Meh.
TylerSeguin19
Boston Bruins
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Jul 25 @ 10:21 AM ET
Cant wait to watch Thornton dummy Parros this year
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:21 AM ET
Clearly...didn't say I'd marry one either.
- BashCH


Some advantages. As long as they keep dressing with those small outfits you save money on clothing.
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:22 AM ET
Cant wait to watch Thornton dummy Parros this year
- TylerSeguin19


Thornton plays for the Stars now?
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 25 @ 10:22 AM ET
Of course.

But that said, if you can get rid of a few vets in the off season (next summer), a guy like Williams could come in handy.

Meh.

- Pecafan Fan


If they could somehow replace Gionta with Williams it'd be good.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 25 @ 10:22 AM ET
Of course.

But that said, if you can get rid of a few vets in the off season (next summer), a guy like Williams could come in handy.

Meh.

- Pecafan Fan


personally, i'm against any trade that makes the team older and/or smaller.
and in this case, Montreal loses it's biggest forward (don't say Parros) and biggest defenceman, even though Muzzin isn't small.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 25 @ 10:22 AM ET
She's clearly an attention whore.
- hon_hon_hon

She has my attention.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 25 @ 10:22 AM ET
If they could somehow replace Gionta with Williams it'd be good.
- BashCH


now there's a trade.
Gary_B.
Location: stormey is an idiot. forget it. - Pecafan Fan, NY
Joined: 07.23.2013

Jul 25 @ 10:23 AM ET
She has my attention.
- AdamFrench


why? you think you see a penis? lol
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jul 25 @ 10:23 AM ET
Some advantages. As long as they keep dressing with those small outfits you save money on clothing.
- jugkope


You obviously never had a girlfriend...less fabric means higher price nowadays.
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