His rights were owned by Ducks at that same time.
- Cooshie

Oh, see what your saying.

Kadri ain't first line material, when teams started playing good defenders against him he did nothing. Keep him on second or 3rd line please
- Snagglepuss

He got hurt in the last month, I can't remember who they were playing but Naz took a solid hit in the neutral zone and was never the same. With the condensed schedule he never had the chance to get comfortable again. It was brushed under the rug, but it happened.

Link please?
- PatC80

http://www.buckys5thquart...eparing-tampering-charges

"It's been widely speculated that Burke's original target in the trade was Schultz, not Gardiner. Allegedly the Leafs settled on Gardiner only after being told that the Ducks weren't willing to part with Schultz."

Just a quick search but can't verify....I only vaguely remember this to be the case.

So you saying that Kadri has peaked at under 100 NHL hockey games?
- Cooshie

No I'm saying hes not good enough yet to play against the likes of chara, weber and any other first pairing. He needs to continue to grow on second or 3 rd line. You seen what happens the last month And playoffs when he was closer checked. He lost his confidence and sucked

nah, Ranger signing is good, was hoping for this for a year now
- BestRapperAlive

I agree 100%

So you saying that Kadri has peaked at under 100 NHL hockey games?
- Cooshie

Must be it. It's a known fact that most top draft picks, who are brought along slowly, usually flame out around the 99 game mark.

Shultz was still playing college hockey and was a free agent.
- aminnes

Not at that point he wasn't.

Lupul (5.250) - Bozak (4.200) - Kessel (5.400)
JVR (4.250) - Kadri (3.333) - Clarkson (5.250)
Raymond (2.000) - Bolland (3.375) - Kulemin (2.800)
McLaren (0.700) - McClement (1.500) - Orr (0.925)
Malhotra (0.600m) - Colborne (0.600)

Gunnarsson (3.150) - Phaneuf (6.500)
Gardiner (1.117) - Franson (3.500)
Ranger (1.000) - Fraser (1.000)
Brennan (0.600)

Bernier (2.900)
Reimer (1.800)

Buyouts and RST (2.500)

CAP PAYROLL: 64.250

No I'm saying hes not good enough yet to play against the likes of chara, weber and any other first pairing. He needs to continue to grow on second or 3 rd line. You seen what happens the last month And playoffs when he was closer checked. He lost his confidence and sucked
- Snagglepuss

OK..misunderstood. Thought you meant he could never be a 1C....
I agree that playing him at 2C is the right place....I disagree with 3C though.

he also did attend rookie camps
- jiri_crha

which carlyle didn't oversee.

OK..misunderstood. Thought you meant he could never be a 1C....
I agree that playing him at 2C is the right place....I disagree with 3C though.
- Cooshie

2c is the rite spot for sure

which carlyle didn't oversee.
- burn

kylethereporter.com/2012/01/19/jake-gardiner-justin-schultz...

He wasn't in their system.. He was in college.

Murray needed to move lupul.. He earned too much with uncertain health.

So how do you move unwanted salary? By coupling it with a prospect that comes from an area of depth in your organization.

So they included an unsigned gardiner (who Carlyle never coached for a minute) to move lupul.

Plain and simple. Carlyle had nothing to do with it
- Dozzer

Wasn't Carlyle fired when we made the trade?

kylethereporter.com/2012/01/19/jake-gardiner-justin-schultz...
- jiri_crha

And???

Wasn't Carlyle fired when we made the trade?
- Yeti1181

Nope, lupul traded Feb 2011 Carlyle fired Nov 2011

Wasn't Carlyle fired when we made the trade?
- Yeti1181

Not quite. Carlyle fired early in the 11/12 season...Jake traded for late in 10/11 season.

Kessel continuing to round out, and Kadri eyeing his wiener



- senstroll

The fatter Phil gets, the better he is.

Wasn't Carlyle fired when we made the trade?
- Yeti1181

I don't think so but a check would be good

Sent down before Christmas.
- UsernameUnknown

No chance. He's the real deal.

I nominate Yetti to clean up the dripping sarcasm and bullpoop off the floor
- JIMI-JAMES

I'm here to clean up these fools gards is the greatest Schultz sucks carlyle has no input on college players Phaneuf is staying I hate all of you and Bernier is the future deal with it
#firebozak

And???
- burn

if they met at training camp like it says one would assume the coach was there

No chance. He's the real deal.
- RogerRoeper

So I thought I'd go off the beaten path a little bit and poll you guys on an obscure topic. How garbage is Jake Gardiner? And as a follow-up, how garbagey is his garbageness? Also, how else?

Is Rielly a bust yet?

So I thought I'd go off the beaten path a little bit and poll you guys on an obscure topic. How garbage is Jake Gardiner? And as a follow-up, how garbagey is his garbageness? Also, how else?
- Zezel

Marlies by Christmas.