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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 25 @ 10:48 AM ET
Not just his lack of finish. He was a promising role player. He got that concussion that kept him out, and he was never the same after that. Still isn't. He regressed from that point on.
- MJL

Proving his scapegoating naysaying critics right!

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 25 @ 10:49 AM ET
It definitely has its origins north of the border, and I'm not worried about it.. but I grow weary of rumors that somehow grow legs and run on for a while, like the imbecilic rumor back at the deadline that Adrian Dater was peddling about Luongo being headed to the Flyers which then proceeded to rear its ugly head again around the draft.
- Doc_Sarcasm


I think they throw it out there like "Wayne Simmonds would be a perfect fit for this team (he pretty much works for every team)." Then, they assume the Flyers don't recognize his value.

The Flyers aren't looking to move him, so any offer would have to be more than fair to acquire him.
Dissent
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Flavor Country
Joined: 03.28.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
Juicy, eh? How about a pallet of Jersey tomatoes?


- Flyskippy

I'd do it, but seeing as how you bums across the river don't get them as fresh as I do, I'm gonna have to pass.

mmm....roadside matoes+chicken+kabob=
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
I wonder if, in a year or two, we'll have the same type of posts condescendingly recalling how we overrated McGinn as a first line winger after this season.
- BulliesPhan87


1st line winger???
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 25 @ 10:50 AM ET
Given the choice, would you rather have Rosehill, Raffl, or McGinn on the 4th line?
Also, I think Akeson gets traded to a team looking for young cheap top-6 talent (Calgary) because I don't see him fitting in here any time soon.

- jmatchett383


Right now Rosehill. McGinn and Raffi could both use more time in the AHL.

On your 2nd point, you are making the classic hometown fan mistake of over valuing your prospects. Akeson is undersized and slow, at this point he has virtually no trade value whatsover and IMHO is a career minor leaguer.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 25 @ 10:51 AM ET
I wonder if, in a year or two, we'll have the same type of posts condescendingly recalling how we overrated McGinn as a first line winger after this season.
- BulliesPhan87

It is unavoidable. It is our... destiny.

/EmperorPalpatine
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:52 AM ET
I honestly don't recall anyone stating that Bartulis had top 4 potential. Unless it escapes my memory. But I do agree that prospects are overhyped. Recent examples are that we can get rid of Coburn, because Lauridsen is just as good. Or that Akeson is going to be a top 6 Forward based on the handful of games he played as a Flyer.
- MJL


Akeson hell no

Id have no problem if lauridsen was the 6th this year if they had brought in an upgrade to the top 4. Id have no problems with trading coburn on this scenario. Streit is not the right piece for making coburn expendable
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:52 AM ET
1st line winger???
- jmatchett383

Sorry, I meant simultaneous appointee to the left and right wings of the all star teams.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 25 @ 10:54 AM ET
McGinn and Mackinnon for Rosehill and a bushel of tomatoes.
- jmatchett383

No way keep Rosehill.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 25 @ 10:54 AM ET
Akeson hell no

Id have no problem if lauridsen was the 6th this year if they had brought in an upgrade to the top 4. Id have no problems with trading coburn on this scenario. Streit is not the right piece for making coburn expendable

- Just5


Lauridsen still has some holes in his game, he turns the puck over a lot. I think it would be better for him to have one more year with the Phantoms getting 21-24 minutes a night and be that much more prepared to step in the following season.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:54 AM ET
Akeson hell no

Id have no problem if lauridsen was the 6th this year if they had brought in an upgrade to the top 4. Id have no problems with trading coburn on this scenario. Streit is not the right piece for making coburn expendable

- Just5

I would not rely on Lauridson for full time NHL duty this season.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 25 @ 10:55 AM ET
Akeson hell no

Id have no problem if lauridsen was the 6th this year if they had brought in an upgrade to the top 4. Id have no problems with trading coburn on this scenario. Streit is not the right piece for making coburn expendable

- Just5


I wouldnt want Lauridson in the top 6 yet. He has made strides but asking him to play 82 games in the NHL is too much at this point. He had some nice stretches last year, but also looked shaky at other times.

BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:56 AM ET
It is unavoidable. It is our... destiny.

/EmperorPalpatine

- Flyskippy

youareright
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 25 @ 10:56 AM ET
No way keep Rosehill.
- Pixote Andolini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYeRbjD75s
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 10:58 AM ET
Right now Rosehill. McGinn and Raffi could both use more time in the AHL.

On your 2nd point, you are making the classic hometown fan mistake of over valuing your prospects. Akeson is undersized and slow, at this point he has virtually no trade value whatsover and IMHO is a career minor leaguer.

- BiggE


He's got to have SOME value; he did lead the OHL in scoring 2 years ago.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 11:00 AM ET
I wouldnt want Lauridson in the top 6 yet. He has made strides but asking him to play 82 games in the NHL is too much at this point. He had some nice stretches last year, but also looked shaky at other times.
- PhillySportsGuy


Agreed. He's definitely a call-up candidate, but no way would I pencil him in for a full-time top-6.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 25 @ 11:00 AM ET
I wonder if, in a year or two, we'll have the same type of posts condescendingly recalling how we overrated McGinn as a first line winger after this season.
- BulliesPhan87



Not sure how my post could be construed as condescending when I specifically lumped myself in with the crowd... note the use of "we".
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 25 @ 11:01 AM ET
No way keep Rosehill.
- Pixote Andolini

Your anti-tomato bias is showing
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jul 25 @ 11:03 AM ET
Not sure how my post could be construed as condescending when I specifically lumped myself in with the crowd... note the use of "we".
- Tomahawk

Oh, ok.

EDIT: Fortunately, I also used the word 'we'. So I stand by my accusation of condescending toward yourself.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 25 @ 11:03 AM ET
Your anti-tomato bias is showing
- Flyskippy


I hate tomatoes. Always a good way to ruin a sandwich.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 11:03 AM ET
I hate tomatoes. Always a good way to ruin a sandwich.
- PhillySportsGuy


And a great way to make spaghetti sauce, or pizza.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 25 @ 11:07 AM ET
And a great way to make spaghetti sauce, or pizza.
- jmatchett383


You don't really taste the tomatoes in ketchup or sauce. I actually eat tomato soup. I just hate the taste of one on a sandwich or in my salad.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 25 @ 11:08 AM ET
You don't really taste the tomatoes in ketchup or sauce. I actually eat tomato soup. I just hate the taste of one on a sandwich or in my salad.
- PhillySportsGuy


I'm not a huge fan, except on BLTs.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 25 @ 11:09 AM ET
I'm not a huge fan, except on BLTs.
- jmatchett383


This blog took a strange turn somewhere

Edit: I think it was my fault now that I read back.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jul 25 @ 11:11 AM ET
This blog took a strange turn somewhere

Edit: I think it was my fault now that I read back.

- PhillySportsGuy

Seeing as I brought up the topic of Jersey tomatoes, I think we all know whom to blame.

Tangent Man.
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