i guess it really does depend on how you view their potential. unless these attitude things are really all of a sudden going to become an issue, i would take seguin over schenn. i think coburn is decent but this dillon kid is supposed to be pretty damn good. ill admit i dont have a ton of first hand knowledge on him though. and a third for a guy who most people just want to dump seems pretty decent even if you have to eat a quarter of the salary. i could see being a little hesitant on a deal based largely in potential, but then again the main piece the flyers are moving has his value largely based in potential too.

haha i think it wasnt that you would pass, but how adamant you were about it that i thought was interesting
- stayinthefnnet

I just don't want any part of Seguin. Usually, when a player's moved due to maturity issues, it's covered up as just a hockey trade. In this case, Boston came right out and said maturity played a part. As for Dillon, seems like a big guy with little/no offensive potential.

1. The Philadelphia Flyers offer F Brayden Schenn, D Braydon Coburn, and D Andrej Meszaros (Philadelphia retains 25% of salary/cap hit) to the Dallas Stars in exchange for F Tyler Seguin, D Brenden Dillon, and a third-round pick in 2014.
- jmatchett383

I just don't want any part of Seguin. Usually, when a player's moved due to maturity issues, it's covered up as just a hockey trade. In this case, Boston came right out and said maturity played a part. As for Dillon, seems like a big guy with little/no offensive potential.
- jmatchett383

if thats the way you view seguin, as just damaged goods this early, which isnt unfounded at all, then i can see why. to me, its just never held patty kane back from being a stud. maybe its worse than thought and they genuinely believed it was influencing his on ice performance. if that is discovered to be the case, then i would be much quicker to side with you.

if that is a non factor though, i have a hard time passing him up.

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- youarewrong

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i guess it really does depend on how you view their potential. unless these attitude things are really all of a sudden going to become an issue, i would take seguin over schenn. i think coburn is decent but this dillon kid is supposed to be pretty damn good. ill admit i dont have a ton of first hand knowledge on him though. and a third for a guy who most people just want to dump seems pretty decent even if you have to eat a quarter of the salary. i could see being a little hesitant on a deal based largely in potential, but then again the main piece the flyers are moving has his value largely based in potential too.

haha i think it wasnt that you would pass, but how adamant you were about it that i thought was interesting
- stayinthefnnet

what an absolute steal for Jim Nill on that trade. Getting your #1 center at age 21 who is entering his prime for a winger -- albeit a very good one -- who is exiting his prime.

I'm not sold on Seguin (especially his playoff numbers) or Dillon.
- jmatchett383

If Vinny really is moving to wing, then I think Seguin would be a better option as a 2nd line center then Schenn would be. I also think Seguin has a lot higher upside then Schenn. I would definately consider this move, as much as I would hate to split up the Schenn Bros.

I just don't want any part of Seguin. Usually, when a player's moved due to maturity issues, it's covered up as just a hockey trade. In this case, Boston came right out and said maturity played a part. As for Dillon, seems like a big guy with little/no offensive potential.
- jmatchett383

Seguin is far from the first 21 year old Hockey player with maturity issues. That would not stop me from acquiring Seguin in the right deal.

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- Don'tForgetTocchet

For a skinny little thing I don't think there's any food you don't like.

what an absolute steal for Jim Nill on that trade. Getting your #1 center at age 21 who is entering his prime for a winger -- albeit a very good one -- who is exiting his prime.
- bradleyc4

i love eriksson too, but i have to side with dallas on that one. although for boston, it makes sense, as i feel eriksson is a huge fit for that team, and their window to squeeze out another cup is probably at its highest in the next 3 or 4 years. the bruins have shown that they have depth down the middle and seguin was a luxury for them, and they did get a fairly good haul.

that being said, by the time dallas really comes together, eriksson would be a little long in the tooth. nill acquired a young center with boatloads of potential without mortgaging years of future assets. it doesnt make a lot of sense to say it this way, but as much as i love the deal for dallas, it wasnt a total bed poop for boston either.

what an absolute steal for Jim Nill on that trade. Getting your #1 center at age 21 who is entering his prime for a winger -- albeit a very good one -- who is exiting his prime.
- bradleyc4

Nevermind... confused the conversations.

Seguin is far from the first 21 year old Hockey player with maturity issues. That would not stop me from acquiring Seguin in the right deal.
- MJL

i think this is one of the closest things to the "right deal" that may come along for a player of his potential though.

i love eriksson too, but i have to side with dallas on that one. although for boston, it makes sense, as i feel eriksson is a huge fit for that team, and their window to squeeze out another cup is probably at its highest in the next 3 or 4 years. the bruins have shown that they have depth down the middle and seguin was a luxury for them, and they did get a fairly good haul.

that being said, by the time dallas really comes together, eriksson would be a little long in the tooth. nill acquired a young center with boatloads of potential without mortgaging years of future assets. it doesnt make a lot of sense to say it this way, but as much as i love the deal for dallas, it wasnt a total bed poop for boston either.
- stayinthefnnet

i understand the rationale, just wouldn't have traded Seguin. Especially with how often Krejci and Bergeron seem to be hurt.

Seguin is exiting his prime?

I'm sorry, how old is he again?
- mayorofangrytown

i think he was referring to louis eriksson, who is a stud but is in his upper 20s by now i believe

Seguin is exiting his prime?

I'm sorry, how old is he again?
- mayorofangrytown

I think the winger was Eriksson, sir

Seguin is exiting his prime?

I'm sorry, how old is he again?
- mayorofangrytown

i think the other winger was exiting his prime. but i'm not sure.

I think the winger was Eriksson, sir
- BulliesPhan87

Yes, I thought he was talking about the schenn for Seguin trade but I should know he left on a tangent.

i understand the rationale, just wouldn't have traded Seguin. Especially with how often Krejci and Bergeron seem to be hurt.
- bradleyc4

i probably wouldnt have either, unless there is really more to this maturity issue thing than we are being led to believe. the bruins dont strike me as an organization who panders such things, and good to them for it. however, if this is just simply a rich 21 year old kid who likes to party, then you have to ride that out i think. if its something a little more serious to the point of extreme detriment, then i commend them for moving on. i will say though, if they made up their minds internally to break off from him, they got a picture perfect guy for them i eriksson back.

For a skinny little thing I don't think there's any food you don't like.

- mayorofangrytown

i'm actually super picky

i probably wouldnt have either, unless there is really more to this maturity issue thing than we are being led to believe. the bruins dont strike me as an organization who panders such things, and good to them for it. however, if this is just simply a rich 21 year old kid who likes to party, then you have to ride that out i think. if its something a little more serious to the point of extreme detriment, then i commend them for moving on. i will say though, if they made up their minds internally to break off from him, they got a picture perfect guy for them i eriksson back.
- stayinthefnnet

In my opinion this has more to do with paying 5 centers 23.5 million. They needed a scoring winger, and there weren't many available in FA. They moved Seguin, who makes nearly 6 million for that wing help. Maybe he did have maturity issues, but I doubt that was the sole reason for the trade.

In my opinion this has more to do with paying 5 centers 23.5 million. They needed a scoring winger, and there weren't many available in FA. They moved Seguin, who makes nearly 6 million for that wing help. Maybe he did have maturity issues, but I doubt that was the sole reason for the trade.
- youarewrong

salary definitely could have been a factor as well. loui is gonna flourish in that top 6 for sure

i'm actually super picky
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Just had a mental picture of you sitting in a steak house, ordering the Cesar salad with dressing on the side and grilled chicken, then pulling out your phone and adding the calorie totals to your app....

i'm actually super picky
- Don'tForgetTocchet

As most people can tell by looking at me, there aren't many things I haven't eaten at this point. It would have to be pretty exotic.

As most people can tell by looking at me, there aren't many things I haven't eaten at this point. It would have to be pretty exotic.
- mayorofangrytown

Fried breast milk

Seguin is far from the first 21 year old Hockey player with maturity issues. That would not stop me from acquiring Seguin in the right deal.
- MJL

I'm with you on this one. His maturity issues would not hold up the deal for me.

But I don't like giving up on B. Schenn & Coburn. I still think Coburn will turn it around and be the stud d-man we've seen him be in years past.

Seriously, if the ping-pong balls fell slightly differently--who on this blog would not have dealt with Patrick Kane's "maturity issues."

Fried breast milk
- jmatchett383

Not fried.