I saw a lot of comments and thought maybe something happened today in regards to the Rangers, I am going back to my weekend
- TPC

I thought the same thing. Oh well!

I saw a lot of comments and thought maybe something happened today in regards to the Rangers, I am going back to my weekend
- TPC

I saw 225 and thought maybe a trade, a bad Zucc contract or a great Stepan contract. I feel like Devils after learning the decision of Ilya Kovalchuk.

Heelloooo in here?
Goodbye.

a guy on the LA tread that actually believes hank is not the best goaltender in the world because he hasn't won a cup
even saying he's ryan miller 2.0 etc.

a guy on the LA tread that actually believes hank is not the best goaltender in the world because he hasn't won a cup
even saying he's ryan miller 2.0 etc.
- webleedblue

saw that, staying out of the mix. A big fan of both, had those two on my fantasy team last year, but a bit biased given my rooting interest.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/26107/john-tavares-can-you-do-that-again

"Being the best player on the New York Islanders is like being the best musician in One Direction"

LOL
- rangerdanger94

You used a poorly written ESPN Hockey Article to defend a stupid argument. JT is better. Take the Ranger glasses off. Only thing that makes Nash "seem" better is his position. As when comparing wingers Nash is better than his peers while the center position is where all the great talent lies so JT doesn't stand out as much. But overall JT >> Nash. Guy is sick.

You used a poorly written ESPN Hockey Article to defend a stupid argument. JT is better. Take the Ranger glasses off. Only thing that makes Nash "seem" better is his position. As when comparing wingers Nash is better than his peers while the center position is where all the great talent lies so JT doesn't stand out as much. But overall JT >> Nash. Guy is sick.
- mrhattrick27

I was clearly trolling them the whole time. Thought that was obvious when I made the nash was a captain "argument".

Jt is better but let's not say he's a tier above nash. Nash is twice his size and can outskate him to shiz and is a better stick handler.

I was clearly trolling them the whole time. Thought that was obvious when I made the nash was a captain "argument".

Jt is better but let's not say he's a tier above nash. Nash is twice his size and can outskate him to shiz and is a better stick handler.
- rangerdanger94

Sorry I just skimmed.

Sorry I just skimmed.
- mrhattrick27

Its okay a couple other ranger fans believed me too

Fck the isles yo

You used a poorly written ESPN Hockey Article to defend a stupid argument. JT is better. Take the Ranger glasses off. Only thing that makes Nash "seem" better is his position. As when comparing wingers Nash is better than his peers while the center position is where all the great talent lies so JT doesn't stand out as much. But overall JT >> Nash. Guy is sick.
- mrhattrick27

JT is a totally different player then Nash. If you asked me who the better player is at this very second I would say JT but it's not as clear cut as many Islander fans think. Tavares has unbelievable vision and playmaking skills. On the other hand there are nights where Nash is just ridiculous with the puck. Few players posses the skill of beating a player one V one. Nash has the ability to beat multiple players and his shot IMO is better then JT's. Nash can drive to the net and is very hard to take off the puck. What makes JT better then Nash is the fact that he makes others around him so much better. His vision on the ice and playmaking skills are right there with Crosby's and I think JT plays with much less talent. Don't get me wrong Moulson isn't some scrub but I don't think he is a top 6 forward without JT. I heard a stat awhile ago where JT has assisted on 56 of the last 60 goals Moulson has scored. JT is also a lot younger and is only to get much better. The guy is flat out an amazing talent but I am a bit skeptical only because it was a shortened season. I want to see a full 82 game season from Tavares and if I was a betting man I would say the guy is going to put up close to 100 points.

JT is a totally different player then Nash. If you asked me who the better player is at this very second I would say JT but it's not as clear cut as many Islander fans think. Tavares has unbelievable vision and playmaking skills. On the other hand there are nights where Nash is just ridiculous with the puck. Few players posses the skill of beating a player one V one. Nash has the ability to beat multiple players and his shot IMO is better then JT's. Nash can drive to the net and is very hard to take off the puck. What makes JT better then Nash is the fact that he makes others around him so much better. His vision on the ice and playmaking skills are right there with Crosby's and I think JT plays with much less talent. Don't get me wrong Moulson isn't some scrub but I don't think he is a top 6 forward without JT. I heard a stat awhile ago where JT has assisted on 56 of the last 60 goals Moulson has scored. JT is also a lot younger and is only to get much better. The guy is flat out an amazing talent but I am a bit skeptical only because it was a shortened season. I want to see a full 82 game season from Tavares and if I was a betting man I would say the guy is going to put up close to 100 points.
- adwolf130

sorry to break the news to ranger and islander fans, but jagr is the best forward in the area, and yes he has won a few NHL awards.

John Tavares and Rick Nash are both signed for the next 5 years. Gonna fun to watch them going head to head in NYC that whole time.

I think extremely highly of John Tavares, summer of 2018 when Rick Nash contract expires, I expect us to make a hard run at the then 28 year old Tavares when he becomes a UFA.

sorry to break the news to ranger and islander fans, but jagr is the best forward in the area, and yes he has won a few NHL awards.
- devfan30

Jagr got jipped out of the 2006 Hart trophy.

sorry to break the news to ranger and islander fans, but jagr is the best forward in the area, and yes he has won a few NHL awards.
- devfan30

Well thats a given. We were discussing best in new york state.

You guys think Zucc and the Rangers end up in arbitration, or will an 11th hour deal get struck? I am betting on a deal before arbitration, but not overly confident about that one.

You guys think Zucc and the Rangers end up in arbitration, or will an 11th hour deal get struck? I am betting on a deal before arbitration, but not overly confident about that one.
- Pete V

3 years 1.9 mil aav tomorrow night.

You guys think Zucc and the Rangers end up in arbitration, or will an 11th hour deal get struck? I am betting on a deal before arbitration, but not overly confident about that one.
- Pete V

ultimately, I just don't believe the Rangers will let a 3rd party determine how much they are going to pay a player and they will get it done before the hearing.

3 years 1.9 mil aav tomorrow night.
- rangerdanger94

I am going to say two years $1.6 million per.

I am going to say two years $1.6 million per.
- Pete V

yeah, that sounds about right

I am going to say two years $1.6 million per.
- Pete V

Sounds good for 2 years. If they go 3, I see him getting a little more aav as I said.

yeah, that sounds about right
- jimbro83

Which would leave a remaining $2.7 million for Stepan, without any additional roster moves. Shouldn't be too hard to find an additional $1.8 million (assuming Stepan gets around $4.5 million) by sending certain players to the minors (Ash and/or Powe) or moving a contract via trade.

Which would leave a remaining $2.7 million for Stepan, without any additional roster moves. Shouldn't be too hard to find an additional $1.8 million (assuming Stepan gets around $4.5 million) by sending certain players to the minors (Ash and/or Powe) or moving a contract via trade.
- Pete V

it's hard to imagine they'll leave themselves with absolutely no cap space though, call ups, that kind of thing.

I think I like Zuccarello as much as anyone does, but it just doesn't make sense that they are in this position with him, especially considering they signed Pouliot, Moore and have these younger players like Kreider, Miller, Fast and Lindberg and have such a cap crunch.

Which would leave a remaining $2.7 million for Stepan, without any additional roster moves. Shouldn't be too hard to find an additional $1.8 million (assuming Stepan gets around $4.5 million) by sending certain players to the minors (Ash and/or Powe) or moving a contract via trade.
- Pete V

The issue is how are we going to stay under the cap in the beginning of the year with cally and hags out but not on ltir so we need 2 additional contracts up in the big club.

it's hard to imagine they'll leave themselves with absolutely no cap space though, call ups, that kind of thing.

I think I like Zuccarello as much as anyone does, but it just doesn't make sense that they are in this position with him, especially considering they signed Pouliot, Moore and have these younger players like Kreider, Miller, Fast and Lindberg and such a cap crunch.
- jimbro83

I agree with that, and for that reason, its hard for me to imagine how, if they really want Zucarello, that they are going to keep several guys on the fourth line making in the mid-1 million range.