No it's stuff like the building that didn't get hit by a plane collapsing in a controled demolition later that day. Or zero evidence of a plane hitting the pentagon. Small stuff like that.


Again, I used to have the same 'your crazy' reaction as you are having, but after looking at it objectively I had to change my mind.
- robin_steele264

Zero evidence of a building hitting the Pentagon.

Other than, you know, the plane fuselage? And the dead people?

At the risk of getting banned, are you really this stupid?

I know I'm feeding into the reaction Clouts wants but....

"21. Philadelphia Flyers - Yet another place Ryan Miller or Tim Thomas could end up. An absolute dartboard of a roster, what makes me sad here is that the team will eventually deal away their good young players (Schenn x 2 and Couturier) to make room for crusty has-beens. Disastrously run franchise."

Is an astoundingly poor assessment of the Flyers. Over paying Thomas or over Paying for Miller and Clouts would say it was horrible.

How is a roster that only got better up front by subtracting Briere, adding Vinny. Has young players coming into years that should see them get more productive, and a solid mix of vets and youth, a dartboard. Maybe the 4th line is, but most 4th lines are.

They picked up guys like Vinny and Streit to AVOID moving their young guys. (Schenn x2 and Couturier). The cap will go up next year and most of their team is locked up. They won't need to move anyone to make room for the vets on the roster.

Disastrously thought out assessment of the Flyers.
- Hype97

Zero evidence of a building hitting the Pentagon.

Other than, you know, the plane fuselage? And the dead people?

At the risk of getting banned, are you really this stupid?
- Atomic Wedgie

This convo is actually bringing out the real idiots on this site...I'm keeping tabs on everyone as we speak.

Columbus and Colorado seem like good trading partners. Of course Stastny on a one year deal won't warrent a stud defenceman. They should trade O'Reilly at the deadline and resign Stastny.

Two possibilities: Paul Stastny for Nakita Nikitin (both on one year deals)

or

Ryan O'Reilly for Fedor Tyutin.

A log jam on the Oilers back end? hahaha

You fricken wish!
- The-O-G

Log jam doesn't mean too many talented D..... I don't know if you've noticed but the Oilers added a lot of defensemen.

Log jam doesn't mean too many talented D..... I don't know if you've noticed but the Oilers added a lot of defensemen.
- SpoiledByOil

Until about 4 of the guys he listed show any potential of being able to keep up in the show without getting absolutely exposed, I wouldn't be worried about a log jam.

How is our roster a confused mess?
- NoobasaurusRex

Cloutier is a confused mess

I just can't though. I look at the Coyotes, and yes, they're being run by the league, but by default. As well, the Oilers are still a large fan-base where there is profitability. In Phoenix, lets be real, no one gives a poop and they make the NHL no money. I just find it remarkably hard to believe it happens 3 years in a row, when it doesn't happen in ANY other professional league with the same type of drafting systems based on season success. You guys may buy it, I don't. I won't be convinced otherwise, and I'm sure none of you will. So, lets agree to disagree.
- Flyers_V88

You are forgetting so much:
1. Oilers have a difficult time attracting top free agents
a. Edmonton is further north than any other city that hosts a NHL/NBA/NFL team.
b. It is fricken cold here.
c. It is a blue collar city, not a lot of places to spend millions.
2. Oilers did not start rebuilding when Pronger left.
a. Vanek singing, Penner signing, trade for Heatley, Souray, etc....
3. Oilers were decimated by injuries for a couple years

Yet another place Ryan Miller or Tim Thomas could end up. An absolute dartboard of a roster, what makes me sad here is that the team will eventually deal away their good young players (Schenn x 2 and Couturier) to make room for crusty has-beens. Disastrously run franchise.

When is Tim Thomas coming to the Flyers? Next year when he's 40?

What should make you sad is that you have no idea about the Flyers who have shown no intention of trading either of the Schenns or Couturier. Which young players have the Flyers traded away for crusty has-beens? Their most recent big trades saw them trade for five good young players in Voracek, Simmonds, B Schenn, L Schenn and Couturier, all of whom were younger than the players they replaced.

If making the playoffs 16 of the last 18 seasons is disastrous what do you call the last 20 years for Edmonton?

Correction, Nurse as well. It just pisses me off, regardless of Cloutier's article or not, that the Oil swindled 3 first overall picks and they still suck!? Like it's the team's coaching and management that need to be looked at, every other team (Chicago, Pitts, etc) who have had a couple of picks are all powerhouses now and their changes took place in literally a couple of seasons... What's going on in Edmonton? Seriously?
- Flyers_V88

way to show how stupid you are, and you rag on Clouts???

This blog demonstrated te one glaring hole in your game, Cloutier - you don't understand the value of defensemen at all. Evaluation is terrible.

Voynov's deal is a damn STEAL, and Bogo's is fair. The guy is getting better positionally every year, and is physical monster out there. His offense is very respectable, in case you didn't research (you didn't research), Bogosian has been on pace to score within the top 30 D the last two seasons if not for a couple injuries - As in, basically keeping pace with Drew Doughty in points per game since 2011. He eats up important minutes, rarely hurting the team, and would immediately become the best defenceman Edmonton has had since Pronger. 5 mill will look like a bargain compared to Shea Weber in two years for this guy.

Meanwhile, you're lauding PK Subban with praise, whose game has more holes than a prairie dog city, with his only advantage over Bogo being his PP skills, and talking up the defense in columbus? Bobrovsky is the defense in columbus, wisniewsky and johnson are not inspiring figures at the top of the depth chart.

You want Phoenix to trade Yandle, one of the league's few bonafide #1 defensemen, and you think NJ and SJ have no defense at all, despite both having FAR more capable Top 4's than edmonton, who you laughably claim has a glut of NHL defensemen (no, they have three, and a bunch of scrubs who wouldn't sniff the NHL on a good team):

NJ - Larsson, Greene, Zidlicky, Salvador = average top 4
SJ- Vlasic, Boyle, Stuart, Demers = Good top 4
Edmonton - J Schultz, Ference, Smid, ? = Two top 4 D, one bottom pairing.
- TommyDeVito

the fact that you don't even know the name of EDM's current best D man tells me you shouldn't comment

Columbus and Colorado seem like good trading partners. Of course Stastny on a one year deal won't warrent a stud defenceman. They should trade O'Reilly at the deadline and resign Stastny.

Two possibilities: Paul Stastny for Nakita Nikitin (both on one year deals)

or

Ryan O'Reilly for Fedor Tyutin.
- steve362

always thought this too. Columbus is high against the cap so the salaries would have balance out to make it work with a stastny trade. Stastny & Barrie + pick for Tyutin & Foligno would be my dream type of trade with players involved, probably way too much from the Jackets but if they are desperate enough for a top 6 center and want a good young d prospect back. Could start the conversation at least

Zero evidence of a building hitting the Pentagon.

Other than, you know, the plane fuselage? And the dead people?

At the risk of getting banned, are you really this stupid?
- Atomic Wedgie

Show me a pic of the pentagon with 1 airplane part anywhere.


It seems obvious you haven't looked into this much. Something you should do before calling someone stupid. I go off what I deduct myself, not what's fed to me.

I felt you were smarter than this.

Exactly, like how is Edmonton still even allowed to draft?! I'm speaking from pure jealousy here, it drives me NUTS they were literally swindled/given those picks to save the franchise from dying and going under... And yet, they're still a joke team. Had you drafted more selectively based on positional need, guarantee you'd be competing very closely for a playoff spot, or would have already been in the playoffs. Straight-up insane.
- Flyers_V88

you have got to be by far thee dumbest poster on these boards, WOW do you know (frank) all about hockey.

Am I the only one wondering why Richard called PK Subban "boy," when he's never called anyone else "boy" before?

Name another team in major professional sports in recent memory to be given that many first round picks consecutively? If you look back, 4/5 years, the Oilers were in pretty serious financial trouble, and the team was going up for sale. I can't prove it, but I will bet a significant amount of money that the NHL helped the city of Edmonton and the Oilers in hopes that the picks would re-fuel the franchise back to glory and profitability. How does Columbus get absolutely (frank)ed when they had the worst season in the league and still not get the 1st overall pick. Twice, sure, you lucked-out. 3 times, I'm sorry, but I smell intervention all over that. I could quite obviously be wrong, but I'm willing I'm to bet I'm right.
- Flyers_V88

stop, just stop, you have no (frank)ing clue and you're making yourself look very (frank)ing stupid and very (frank)ing pathetic.

This convo is actually bringing out the real idiots on this site...I'm keeping tabs on everyone as we speak.
- The-O-G

It's hilarious from my point of view actually.


Considering I was on the exact opposite side not too long ago, and it takes a lot of change my opinion, but being honest with myself, I can't buy the story most do.

you're gonna eat your words regarding Zack Bogosian...
- JETSWIN

Especially if you deep fry them

Not quite true. You need to check the standing back then. Pittsburgh sucked for about 5 years and received first round draft picks in the top 5 spots. (2 firsts, 2 seconds and one 5th) and Chicago missed the playoffs for at least 6 seasons in a row from '03-'08 and had 4 picks in the top ten 4 years straight. (1 first, 2 thirds and a seventh) So your couple of season theory isn't true at all. They are pretty much in the same spot. If they don't do something within the next two season, I do agree that high management positions need to be changed. (Kevin Lowe!!)
- grovegrizzlies

they had 5 top 5 picks in, you guessed it, 5 years, one 5th, two 1st and two seconds, it took them 7 years to make the playoffs after their first top 5 pick (one year was lockout I think) this guy is so far out to lunch i'm actually starting to feel sorry for him, just spouting out complete (frank)ing bullpoop like it's fact, pretty pathetic.

Show me a pic of the pentagon with 1 airplane part anywhere.


It seems obvious you haven't looked into this much. Something you should do before calling someone stupid. I go off what I deduct myself, not what's fed to me.

I felt you were smarter than this.
- robin_steele264

I saw it on that youtube, it's gotta be true!!

Columbus and Colorado seem like good trading partners. Of course Stastny on a one year deal won't warrent a stud defenceman. They should trade O'Reilly at the deadline and resign Stastny.

Two possibilities: Paul Stastny for Nakita Nikitin (both on one year deals)

or

Ryan O'Reilly for Fedor Tyutin.
- steve362

the Avalanche can't trade Ryan O'Reilly for one whole year from when they matched his offer sheet

Show me a pic of the pentagon with 1 airplane part anywhere.


It seems obvious you haven't looked into this much. Something you should do before calling someone stupid. I go off what I deduct myself, not what's fed to me.

I felt you were smarter than this.
- robin_steele264

Oh Lord, you think 9/11 was an inside job, and you question my intelligence?

Bwaa ha ha ha ha ha ha!

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.asp

Wow, Snopes.com can disprove every nutjob "hole in the narrative" you can throw at it.

Read it.

Get yerself edumacated.

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

Was 9/11 an inside job too?
- braidonh

it pretty obviously was lol, it's not hard to find the info.....

http://consciouslifenews....bert-stubblebine/1145271/

but of course there will always be the ignorant and arrogant that can't see the ridiculously obvious because it doesn't fit their world view.

Oh Lord, you think 9/11 was an inside job, and you question my intelligence?

Bwaa ha ha ha ha ha ha!

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.asp

Wow, Snopes.com can disprove every nutjob "hole in the narrative" you can throw at it.

Read it.

Get yerself edumacated.

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
- Atomic Wedgie

Cloutier.

His knowledge of hockey is second to everyone.
His trade proposals make Mike Milbury blush.
When he speaks of Oiler prospects, he has trouble urinating in the toilet the following morning.