Oh it happened it was just unecessary and frankly, rather embarrassing for the US.
- sanfordnson

Just like honey boo boo

Ok. Which one do u believe? I especially like Michael Moore's twist
- Cptmjl

I think something other than planes took the buildings down and no plane hit the pentagon.

Guessing that'd hurt?
- Cptmjl

I bet Bachmann could crap a unicorn without issue. Sarah Palin could birth three.

Oh it happened it was just unecessary and frankly, rather embarrassing for the US.
- sanfordnson

There were.many other embarrassing moments for this country as well as others and there will be.more. That's what happens when you're damned either way. We don't stick our noses in the whole world asks why? Then if we do were a$$holes. Is what it is

And I have no idea who won the Stanley cup because I don't trust that what the NHL broadcasted was real. Maybe the Sabres won it? Is this what were basing conspiracies on? I wasn't there or I didn't see the pilot so it must be a conspiracy
- sbroads24

didn't say that. There's all kinds of other questions that can lead one to think that.

But that doesn't change the fact that we don't know for sure who was flying the planes when they hit the towers.

It's always some conspiracy though. 9/11 Newtown, Boston bombing, JFK, moon landing, Illuminati. Like WTF?? Am I really supposed to believe Jay-z and Martha Stewart make the important political decisions in the world ?
- sbroads24

Welllll.....I hate to get into this but its more like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds.

I think something other than planes took the buildings down and no plane hit the pentagon.



- robin_steele264

Really or are you facking with.me?

Really or are you facking with.me?
- Cptmjl

Really.

I used to believe the same as you. But I've seen enough to change my mind.

There were.many other embarrassing moments for this country as well as others and there will be.more. That's what happens when you're damned either way. We don't stick our noses in the whole world asks why? Then if we do were a$$holes. Is what it is
- Cptmjl

All the other crap bothers me far far less than things like revelations of blatant government spying on private citizens, plans for regular drone flights over all sorts of cities, the gradual militarization of police forces, etc. Those aren't conspiracies. They're happening and it doesn't seem to bother many people.

Really or are you facking with.me?
- Cptmjl

really.

pentagon hole is 16 ft wide.

Boeing 757 fuselage is 24 ft wide, even if the wings did "disintegrate on impact"

didn't say that. There's all kinds of other questions that can lead one to think that.

But that doesn't change the fact that we don't know for sure who was flying the planes when they hit the towers.
- Big_Lightnin

I guess if we're going that far, we don't even know if there were people on them.

Or if they were even real planes.

This is how conspiracy theories get blown wide open. In the eyes of some, these things can't be proven as facts, so they must be completely false. Only logical explanation.

I guess if we're going that far, we don't even know if there were people on them.

Or if they were even real planes.

This is how conspiracy theories get blown wide open. In the eyes of some, these things can't be proven as facts, so they must be completely false. Only logical explanation.
- joel878

There's an argument that they were not passenger planes.

All the other crap bothers me far far less than things like revelations of blatant government spying on private citizens, plans for regular drone flights over all sorts of cities, the gradual militarization of police forces, etc. Those aren't conspiracies. They're happening and it doesn't seem to bother many people.
- sanfordnson

Eh,it does and it doesn't. I'm fine with the government knowing what kind of porn I like if it means that some d bag doesn't bomb a mall that I'm in. It's give and take.

didn't say that. There's all kinds of other questions that can lead one to think that.

But that doesn't change the fact that we don't know for sure who was flying the planes when they hit the towers.
- Big_Lightnin

No. Some people who dont want to believe the peaceful Muslim people could commit such a heinous act want to believe there is some other answer. The leftist morons in our country would like to believe there is some other answer as well. It was terrorist from al Qaeda. You want a hear a conspiracy theory? One that's actually true. There were hundreds of Muslims watching from the roof tops from mosques and homes in Brooklyn and jersey when this happened with a clear view of the world trade center. Where they part of the govt conspiracy to kill five thousand citizens?

Ok. Do I believe the Government is 100% transparent about everything? No. But am I gonna believe they stage catastrophic event in order to pass laws through congress? He'll no
- sbroads24

This is where the Masons come in...



this whole thread is sooooooo 2002

I guess if we're going that far, we don't even know if there were people on them.

Or if they were even real planes.

This is how conspiracy theories get blown wide open. In the eyes of some, these things can't be proven as facts, so they must be completely false. Only logical explanation.
- joel878

I don't even know if I'm really posting on HockeyBuzz right now.

I guess if we're going that far, we don't even know if there were people on them.

Or if they were even real planes.

This is how conspiracy theories get blown wide open. In the eyes of some, these things can't be proven as facts, so they must be completely false. Only logical explanation.
- joel878

now yer getting it

really.

pentagon hole is 16 ft wide.

Boeing 757 fuselage is 24 ft wide, even if the wings did "disintegrate on impact"
- Big_Lightnin

There are a ton of variables at work there. Trajectory, speed, construction.. Weather.

If you're not a qualified engineer who's inspected the site and wreckage, its nothing but pure speculation from what information is available through the media. Portraying that as evidence that the story is false plain doesn't work.

You referring to Pearl Harbour? Or am I on the wrong path here?
- sanfordnson

Lusitania?

really.

pentagon hole is 16 ft wide.

Boeing 757 fuselage is 24 ft wide, even if the wings did "disintegrate on impact"
- Big_Lightnin

You knkw you're talking about the pentagon right? You also know what planes are.made.of I'm guessing? Think about it. Maybe a little more thoroughly?

There's an argument that they were not passenger planes.
- robin_steele264

All I know is that cloutiers forums are way more fun than the leaf blogs.

If this is any indication of how you guys roll, going to have to donate far more of my time to this place.

No. Some people who dont want to believe the peaceful Muslim people could commit such a heinous act want to believe there is some other answer. The leftist morons in our country would like to believe there is some other answer as well. It was terrorist from al Qaeda. You want a hear a conspiracy theory? One that's actually true. There were hundreds of Muslims watching from the roof tops from mosques and homes in Brooklyn and jersey when this happened with a clear view of the world trade center. Where they part of the govt conspiracy to kill five thousand citizens?
- Cptmjl

- Big_Lightnin

Knew you'd get a kick out of that one. Yet you'll believe the govt did this. Facking hysterical

You knkw you're talking about the pentagon right? You also know what planes are.made.of I'm guessing? Think about it. Maybe a little more thoroughly?
- Cptmjl

I thought about it thoroughly. For a while. It's what made me change my opinion.

There are a ton of variables at work there. Trajectory, speed, construction.. Weather.

If you're not a qualified engineer who's inspected the site and wreckage, its nothing but pure speculation from what information is available through the media. Portraying that as evidence that the story is false plain doesn't work.
- joel878

like reports from qualified engineers, and people who examine plane crashes for a living, and who say there's no way a Boeing 757 made that hole?