This place is (frank)ing hilarious. Some people take the love/hate over a (frank)ing sports league way too seriously and personally.
- Nucker101

it always starts with people chirping nothing to do with hockey. Works everytime.

Like: Kings and Wings. I'd take a shot with the Sens or Isles. Ducks, Canucks, Oilers and Leafs are not good value IMO.
- Nucker101

Well even being a Leaf, I don't expect the Leafs to win the cup next year so I wouldn't put my money on them just yet. If they can repeat last season over an 82 game schedule, than I might think different. They still need to prove themselves.

it always starts with people chirping nothing to do with hockey. Works everytime.
- clark_griswold

Yeah the attacking of other cities makes zero sense to me , but when it's done well(and is original) and pisses off like 5+ people it can be funny.

Yeah the attacking of other cities makes zero sense to me , but when it's done well(and is original) and pisses off like 5+ people it can be funny.
- Nucker101

yeah it's funny if you can take sh*t lightly. I just sit back and laugh, some people are serious snap shows.

Chirp the team - that's fun. Once you get into stuff like 'buddy do you know anything????' etc, it snowballs into 'you live in buffalo' and then the fireworks begin...which again can be enjoying

Blues signing Bouwmeester doesn't get its own blog I think 27 m over 5 years is a very good deal. Well done Armstrong!

Blues signing Bouwmeester doesn't get its own blog I think 27 m over 5 years is a very good deal. Well done Armstrong!
- cuethenoise

That's cause we only get waken up for the important things.

Blues signing Bouwmeester doesn't get its own blog I think 27 m over 5 years is a very good deal. Well done Armstrong!
- cuethenoise

Armstrong doesn't overpay players. EK's team overpays everyone. What do u expect?

AP on the way out maybe?

How about this: what you did with the stats was clever. Without having to check them, i'm going to assume you counted ALL goalies (ones that played 2, heck 1 game all year). That doesn't count for squat. Clever though. He didn't have the best year but price is your best player hands down.

How about the fact that you have been chirping me all thread, all I've done is give examples for my argument. I've called you out twice: once when you chirped but wouldn't do a head to head top 9 comparison between leafs and habs forwards. The second was when you somehow said I 'made your head spin' when I claimed spezza was the best centre in the Ottawa montreal series, so him being out was a huge loss for Ottawa; and I in fact said parros would help several times while you claimed I said the opposite. You never answered either time.

But you're right, I don't watch hockey. I don't know why I give examples when I can just chirp.
- clark_griswold

yes, clark, i used all goalies. thought it was pretty damn obvious when i listed Price's 50th overall save percentage. look if you want or don't. his numbers were average at best. so for you to claim that he was the reason for any of Montreal's success shows that you know nothing about the Habs other than what you see 5 times a year.
i buried your ridiculous statement that none of the Habs top 9 would crack Toronto's by pointing out that Montreal had better centres, to which you disagreed because 14-point David Bolland is clearly better than 30-point Lars Eller because of how clutch he is in the playoffs despite him going into game 5 of the finals with 1 goal. but then, admittedly, you burned me with his "clutch defensive performance", something which cannot be statistically proved or therefore argued. i agreed that the Leafs have better wingers and overall forwards going into this season, but given that the original claim was yours, i didn't have to go player-for-player to disprove your statement. i did however point out that JVR and gallagher was pretty close (given their regular season and playoff numbers) while pointing out that JVR is a veteran and Gallagher a 20-year-old rookie, but your response was that JVR was bigger and had been a beats in the playoffs for Philly (without mentioning that it was a single 11-game run and not a recurring track record, one like a Daniel Briere has).
your statement about Spezza was also stupid and at the time i gave up but here it is. you equated the Sens missing Spezza to Montreal missing 5 forwards and their starting goalie. yes, Spezza was better than Montreal's injured players. but at a certain point sparky, quantity trumps quality. it's why Sidney Crosby and Alex Ovechkin and Evgeni Malkin have a combined 2 Cups in 25 combined years of NHL hockey.
you don't give examples. you make broad, general statements and when confronted with actual statistics, you resort to semantics or intangibles like "clutch".
as for Parros, one post you said he helped, and then in another post you ridiculed Montreal's "improvements" this summer by mocking a "4-minute player" like Parros, all while simultaneously talking about how tough the Leafs were because they had Orr and McLaren.
so yes, you kinda come off like you know nothing of any team outside Toronto. i'm not even sure you know much about them. you just hate the Habs, which i do respect.

yes, clark, i used all goalies. thought it was pretty damn obvious when i listed Price's 50th overall save percentage. look if you want or don't. his numbers were average at best. so for you to claim that he was the reason for any of Montreal's success shows that you know nothing about the Habs other than what you see 5 times a year.
i buried your ridiculous statement that none of the Habs top 9 would crack Toronto's by pointing out that Montreal had better centres, to which you disagreed because 14-point David Bolland is clearly better than 30-point Lars Eller because of how clutch he is in the playoffs despite him going into game 5 of the finals with 1 goal. but then, admittedly, you burned me with his "clutch defensive performance", something which cannot be statistically proved or therefore argued. i agreed that the Leafs have better wingers and overall forwards going into this season, but given that the original claim was yours, i didn't have to go player-for-player to disprove your statement. i did however point out that JVR and gallagher was pretty close (given their regular season and playoff numbers) while pointing out that JVR is a veteran and Gallagher a 20-year-old rookie, but your response was that JVR was bigger and had been a beats in the playoffs for Philly (without mentioning that it was a single 11-game run and not a recurring track record, one like a Daniel Briere has).
your statement about Spezza was also stupid and at the time i gave up but here it is. you equated the Sens missing Spezza to Montreal missing 5 forwards and their starting goalie. yes, Spezza was better than Montreal's injured players. but at a certain point sparky, quantity trumps quality. it's why Sidney Crosby and Alex Ovechkin and Evgeni Malkin have a combined 2 Cups in 25 combined years of NHL hockey.
you don't give examples. you make broad, general statements and when confronted with actual statistics, you resort to semantics or intangibles like "clutch".
as for Parros, one post you said he helped, and then in another post you ridiculed Montreal's "improvements" this summer by mocking a "4-minute player" like Parros, all while simultaneously talking about how tough the Leafs were because they had Orr and McLaren.
so yes, you kinda come off like you know nothing of any team outside Toronto. i'm not even sure you know much about them. you just hate the Habs, which i do respect.
- DoubleDown

why use goalies that played 1 game? JVR was a beast for us too in the playoffs. Comparing eller to bolland was a stretch I personally thought, as did some others, but im not going to change your mind so you take eller, I 'll gladly take bolland. I used 'clutch' for bolland as I was pretty sure he did a damn good job shutting down some big guns in big playoff series, and scoring a huge goal (point is he is on the ice in the final minutes of an important game). I didn't know what to say about eller, as he hasn't really accomplished much but hey, regular season points are great. But You're right, I know nothing of montreal, I know nothing of the leafs. You're not angry at all with these comments.

I never said parros was a 4 minute whatever you said, try to find the post where I did. I can find at least 3 where I said he'd be useful; I said he'd be more useful than briere. And an injured karlsson and no spezza, plus a returning from tough injury craig Anderson vs the habs injuries still seemed to ME anyways, that Ottawa was harder done by than the habs.

but whatever, I don't know anything, i'm an idiot. You're right.

Blues signing Bouwmeester doesn't get its own blog I think 27 m over 5 years is a very good deal. Well done Armstrong!
- cuethenoise

Can I have whatever you are smoking??

I thought Armstrong was supposed to be a good GM.. J-BO hasn't been j-bo in like 4 years.. that is a horrible contract for an over the hill player ESPECIALLY with taking money away from a Piets extension..

Joke

Can I have whatever you are smoking??

I thought Armstrong was supposed to be a good GM.. J-BO hasn't been j-bo in like 4 years.. that is a horrible contract for an over the hill player ESPECIALLY with taking money away from a Piets extension..

Joke
- JVince11

Hard to be good when your playing for the flames haha. He looked pretty damn good with Petro last season. He had a 50% points per game average. Plus he is only 29 and he is probably one the best skaters I have ever seen!

I want to put $100 on Ottawa (30-to-1).

How/where can I do that? Is there a way to bet online?

So your opinion is that the Leafs have a far better chance than the Habs?


- Joel_Eh

Montreal's record last year was deceiving. They went something like 11-1 against the southeast and were just ok against everyone else. They're going to be very hard pressed to match what they did last season.

I want to put $100 on Ottawa (30-to-1).

How/where can I do that? Is there a way to bet online?
- rhume55

My suggestion would be to crumple it up and throw it out of a moving car. Same net result.

i don't think the leafs have a great chance, but i think montreal has no chance. Not built for the playoffs at all.
- clark_griswold

Right, but you guys are?

It's funny how literally every advanced stat says the Leafs were a house of cards, you don't have anything close resembling a number one centre, but because you took Boston to 7 games, you're somehow a contender.

Montreal took Boston to 7 games in 2011, when they won the Cup. The next year, we finished last in the East.

Enjoy Tyler Bozak.

why use goalies that played 1 game? JVR was a beast for us too in the playoffs. Comparing eller to bolland was a stretch I personally thought, as did some others, but im not going to change your mind so you take eller, I 'll gladly take bolland. I used 'clutch' for bolland as I was pretty sure he did a damn good job shutting down some big guns in big playoff series, and scoring a huge goal (point is he is on the ice in the final minutes of an important game). I didn't know what to say about eller, as he hasn't really accomplished much but hey, regular season points are great. But You're right, I know nothing of montreal, I know nothing of the leafs. You're not angry at all with these comments.

I never said parros was a 4 minute whatever you said, try to find the post where I did. I can find at least 3 where I said he'd be useful; I said he'd be more useful than briere. And an injured karlsson and no spezza, plus a returning from tough injury craig Anderson vs the habs injuries still seemed to ME anyways, that Ottawa was harder done by than the habs.

but whatever, I don't know anything, i'm an idiot. You're right.
- clark_griswold

So, Bolland can't score playing with Kane and Sharp, but he'll become a number one centre playing with Kessel and Lupul?

But hey, I'm sure David Clarkson will finally hit the 47 point mark this year. Power forwards totally hit their peaks at 30, right? Must be their totally sustainable style of play.

Montreal's record last year was deceiving. They went something like 11-1 against the southeast and were just ok against everyone else. They're going to be very hard pressed to match what they did last season.
- Jeffmt

Yes, Montreal's record was deceiving. Toronto had some of the worst possession stats in the entire NHL, and Nazem Kadri had something like an 18% shooting percentage, but Montreal and their upper-level possession stats and 5-on-5 play had the misleading record. Totally.

Yes, Montreal's record was deceiving. Toronto had some of the worst possession stats in the entire NHL, and Nazem Kadri had something like an 18% shooting percentage, but Montreal and their upper-level possession stats and 5-on-5 play had the misleading record. Totally.
- oniremosewa

I don't understand people who live and die off of these stats. Toronto is a perfect example of why they're not the be all, end all. Yes, the Leafs had really bad possession stats and still had a pretty good season. Everyone started predicting them to fall off a month into the season and it never happened (cue all the "shortened season" whining). Kadri went cold for almost a month and they were still winning. Montreal's "upper-level possession stats" had them as a mediocre team against everyone but the worst division in hockey.

If your record against one specific division is so far out of whack with the other divisions, and that just happens to be an awful division, there's probably something there. I'm not saying Montreal is a horrible team, obviously they're not, but I don't think it's unfair to say that their record was misleading.

Sucker bet: Vancouver

Money bet: Colorado

Whose winning the cup next year: San Jose

So, Bolland can't score playing with Kane and Sharp, but he'll become a number one centre playing with Kessel and Lupul?

But hey, I'm sure David Clarkson will finally hit the 47 point mark this year. Power forwards totally hit their peaks at 30, right? Must be their totally sustainable style of play.
- oniremosewa

clearly said bolland would be 3rd line centre, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. And chirping the Clarkson signing is priceless since you guys DESPERATELY needed another small soft forward. Briere finally fills that hole for you.

I'll enjoy bozak quite fine; not like there aren't bad over paid guys on the habs. Bozak is in the same boat as deharnais. Enjoy getting the snot beat out of you again next year and getting laughed at while it happens (actually, as in fraiser McLaren and the whole Ottawa senators team). Softest team in the league. But I forgot, having tough players is useless.

Right, but you guys are?

It's funny how literally every advanced stat says the Leafs were a house of cards, you don't have anything close resembling a number one centre, but because you took Boston to 7 games, you're somehow a contender.

Montreal took Boston to 7 games in 2011, when they won the Cup. The next year, we finished last in the East.

Enjoy Tyler Bozak.
- oniremosewa

well we're certainly not as tough as you guys, so I guess we'll have a little tougher time adjusting to the playoff grind. It's not like the playoffs are physical...montreal should be fine.

I'll never condone what the kid did. Pulling a knife, threatning all the passengers on the street car, exposing his wee wee. Either the kid is just plain stupid or he had a bad night. But an 18 year old kid never got a chance to learn from his stupid actions that night. He'll never get a chance to pay the consequences for his actions & redeem himself. Lord knowsus older guys, how many stupid things we were lucky to get away with as teens? When I was 18 & already on probabtion, I did something really stupid that if I had gotten caught, due to already being on probation, I would have went to jail no doubt. I got away with it but I got lucky & I learned my lesson. Sammy never got that chance.
- GCHonda

Its a truly unfortunate incident when a young man with a knife is alone on a streetcar and gets shot 9 times.

He was alone. There was no need to shoot him, period.

Right, but you guys are?

It's funny how literally every advanced stat says the Leafs were a house of cards, you don't have anything close resembling a number one centre, but because you took Boston to 7 games, you're somehow a contender.

Montreal took Boston to 7 games in 2011, when they won the Cup. The next year, we finished last in the East.

Enjoy Tyler Bozak.
- oniremosewa

I know that's what so cool about it