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- Lipchitz

Articles written by guys that research prospects for a living vs. TO fans claiming their prospect was a top 3 talent above the likes of 3 of Yak, Galchenyuk, Grigorenko, Murray, Trouba, Forsberg.

hmmmmmmm

This.

All I know is that we made the playoffs and have a great chance at making them this year which you guys don't especially with the division your in. You'll need a lot more then just klefbom and nurse to get back into the playoff picture
- MLeafs81

all I know is our team made the playoffs and yours didn't so no matter if I know what I'm talking about or not, I deserve the last laugh.

yes, like I said. Was ranked from 5th-8th/9th. There was a distinct possibility that Nurse was going to CAR at 5 and CAR fans'd be saying the same thing you are.
- TheNugeIsHuge

There was very little chance Rielly was going to be there at 8 or 9, it was much more like 4-7. Anyways, this is a silly conversation.

sore loser....
- Iggysbff

It wasn't a competition. You didn't win any internet points.

It wasn't a competition. You didn't win any internet points.
- Lipchitz

lol. were basically back where we began except we know that one leaf poster will make sh*t up to prove a point.

Articles written by guys that research prospects for a living vs. TO fans claiming their prospect was a top 3 talent above the likes of 3 of Yak, Galchenyuk, Grigorenko, Murray, Trouba, Forsberg.

hmmmmmmm
- TheNugeIsHuge

What is this proof of;

http://www.hockeysfuture....t-rankings-2012-13/page/1

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=635645

We've all read the same (frank)ing poop. None of these guys know what they are talking about. Even the all mighty Bob McKenzie isn't concrete proof of poop, if he was he'd be employed by an NHL team. These are just entertainment, you should regard them as such.

There was very little chance Rielly was going to be there at 8 or 9, it was much more like 4-7. Anyways, this is a silly conversation.
- Lipchitz

Yep. very very silly conversation. I only asked to determine what was so laughable about the proposal.

Evidentlly it's that Rielly's value is a country mile ahead of Klefbom's. I guess we'll just leave it that.

I think that is all you know. Seeing as we're talking about prospects and you're bringing up TO's first playoff berth since '04.

I don't see TO having a great chance at making the playoffs. In fact I have a bet with Cooshie or whatever his name is that they don't make it.

Go talk to the pension plan puppets guys and find all that's wrong with TO. They'll be finishing right next to EDM in the gutter.
- TheNugeIsHuge

Yeah you clearly just hate everything Toronto if your saying that. Provided no reason why even as well.

lol. were basically back where we began except we know that one leaf poster will make sh*t up to prove a point.
- TheNugeIsHuge

No one made poop up. If you think Nurse is a a similar prospect to Rielly you are entitled to your opinion, I do not think that. Now why don't you go tweet Bob and see if he'll validate your opinion.

What is this proof of;

http://www.hockeysfuture....t-rankings-2012-13/page/1

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=635645

We've all read the same (frank)ing poop. None of these guys know what they are talking about. Even the all mighty Bob McKenzie isn't concrete proof of poop, if he was he'd be employed by an NHL team. These are just entertainment, you should regard them as such.
- Lipchitz

Yea. None of em know what they're talking about.

But you do. Keep it up.

I'll come to you with my prospect questions. Are Nurse and Rielly damn near equivalent as prospects? I'll see the word of an unbiased man that ranks prospects for a living to the word of a leaf fan that likes his prospects as much as Cloutier does

Yeah you clearly just hate everything Toronto if your saying that. Provided no reason why even as well.
- TheLeafsInsider

I think Edmonton is butt hurt because they have to play 2nd fiddle to Calgary all the time.

No one made poop up. If you think Nurse is a a similar prospect to Rielly you are entitled to your opinion, I do not think that. Now why don't you go tweet Bob and see if he'll validate your opinion.
- Lipchitz

uhhh. Yes. One leaf poster said Klefbom played like sh*t at the most recent WJC, which he was not playing in because of shoulder surgery.

I classify that as making sh*t up.

Not similar players. Similar value. Both project to be top pairing guys. Both were taken as the 2nd Dman in their years. Both ranked mid-late top 10.

Yea. None of em know what they're talking about.

But you do. Keep it up.

I'll come to you with my prospect questions. Are Nurse and Rielly damn near equivalent as prospects? I'll see the word of an unbiased man that ranks prospects for a living to the word of a leaf fan that likes his prospects as much as Cloutier does
- TheNugeIsHuge

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying cherry picking internet sources, especially when you know there are ones out there that agree with me, is a fools errand and a boring conversation. It's like hey let's trade links and exchange insults, WOO HIOOWWW

I think Edmonton is butt hurt because they have to play 2nd fiddle to Calgary all the time.
- Lipchitz

Hey, I'm not from Edmonton. I'm just an Oilers fan. You're grasping at straws now...

uhhh. Yes. One leaf poster said Klefbom played like sh*t at the most recent WJC, which he was not playing in because of shoulder surgery.

I classify that as making sh*t up.

Not similar players. Similar value. Both project to be top pairing guys. Both were taken as the 2nd Dman in their years. Both ranked mid-late top 10.
- TheNugeIsHuge

They aren't similar value. Rielly is a notch above. Think of Rielly as Pietrangelo and Nurse as Bogosian.

Rielly was also the third D-man taken, why do you keep repeating that?

uhhh. Yes. One leaf poster said Klefbom played like sh*t at the most recent WJC, which he was not playing in because of shoulder surgery.

I classify that as making sh*t up.

Not similar players. Similar value. Both project to be top pairing guys. Both were taken as the 2nd Dman in their years. Both ranked mid-late top 10.
- TheNugeIsHuge

Honest question isn't Klefboms career high in pts in the Swedish elite league like 3 pts?

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying cherry picking internet sources, especially when you know there are ones out there that agree with me, is a fools errand and a boring conversation. It's like hey let's trade links and exchange insults, WOO HIOOWWW
- Lipchitz

My main beef is not that you rate Reilly above Nurse, but rather that you find it laughable to even compare them.

Indeed, Schultz is rated higher than Rielly on one of your links, but I don't think it's utterly laughable that Rielly could end up being a better player. It's not your message, it's your fervour.

Yeah you clearly just hate everything Toronto if your saying that. Provided no reason why even as well.
- TheLeafsInsider

I hate leafs fans. Not the leafs. Can't brag to world's end about your team making the playoffs when a lot of it was based on luck.

Highest SH% in the league, 3rd most SA/G, 28th most SF/G, 2nd worst possession team in the league. Bought out and let walk 2 of their top possession players in Grabo and Macarthur. Re signed one of their worst in Bozak. Paying a guy who's hit over 35P once, 5.25M a year.

I hate the leafs as much as I hate the oilers. Both piss poor teams last year. One benefitted from a sh*t load of puck luck and the shortened season.

My main beef is not that you rate Reilly above Nurse, but rather that you find it laughable to even compare them.

Indeed, Schultz is rated higher than Rielly on one of your links, but I don't think it's utterly laughable that Rielly could end up being a better player. It's not your message, it's your fervour.
- Morris

Schultz is doing it at the NHL level until Rielly is he will be well behind.

They aren't similar value. Rielly is a notch above. Think of Rielly as Pietrangelo and Nurse as Bogosian.

Rielly was also the third D-man taken, why do you keep repeating that?
- Lipchitz

thanks for the helpful scouting report. okay we'll see.

Schultz is doing it at the NHL level until Rielly is he will be well behind.
- Lipchitz

You're saying there's no basis of comparison between prospects and current NHLers?

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying cherry picking internet sources, especially when you know there are ones out there that agree with me, is a fools errand and a boring conversation. It's like hey let's trade links and exchange insults, WOO HIOOWWW
- Lipchitz

don't know which ones I'm avoiding that agree with you. There was one by Craig Button that was measuring how prospects were doing 2.5 months in to the season.

I'm coming from a reasoned stand point. Once again, Nurse and Rielly. Both 2nd D picked, both ranked mid-late top 10, both project as top pairing D.

The arguments I've seen from leafs posters are Rielly's a notch above Nurse because he was a top 3 talent. Which isn't the case

I hate leafs fans. Not the leafs. Can't brag to world's end about your team making the playoffs when a lot of it was based on luck.

Highest SH% in the league, 3rd most SA/G, 28th most SF/G, 2nd worst possession team in the league. Bought out and let walk 2 of their top possession players in Grabo and Macarthur. Re signed one of their worst in Bozak. Paying a guy who's hit over 35P once, 5.25M a year.

I hate the leafs as much as I hate the oilers. Both piss poor teams last year. One benefitted from a sh*t load of puck luck and the shortened season.
- TheNugeIsHuge

If you think the Leafs were a piss poor team last year then you are sadly mistaken. I implore you to watch some games this season and you will see they were, and are, a very good hockey team. Last year's team was the best they've iced since McCabe, Kaberle and Sundin were in their primes.

You're saying there's no basis of comparison between prospects and current NHLers?
- Morris

No I'm saying when judging similar prospects the edge should always go to the guy who is further along in their development, less risk.

thanks for the helpful scouting report. okay we'll see.
- Morris

I'm trolling. You EDM fans sure guard CLoutier posts like Buckingham palace though.