that's trolling. If you saw one tenth of the comments we post towards Cloutier. Reveen said he should've been in the twin towers on 9/11 for (frank) sakes.

1 in 15 oiler fans agrees with anything cloutier says.
- TheNugeIsHuge

Rielly has a larger penis. They measured, I was there.
- Lipchitz

Using your throat as the measuring device?

Using your throat as the measuring device?
- Ihatebrianburke

good for me. Thanks for teaching me a valuable lesson about myself. Are we done here?
- Morris

Are you tied down? Is your browser broken? You're done whenever you want?

Using your throat as the measuring device?
- Ihatebrianburke

Pierre McGuire's actually. Dude sucks a mean cock.

Are you tied down? Is your browser broken? You're done whenever you want?
- Lipchitz

Sorry I should be more explicit: in the absence of anything particular to talk about, I was hoping that you'd leave.

Safer to make it in the NHL not be a star defensemen. The fact is that stay at home defensemen have to be so outrageously good to make up for their offensive deficiencies that they often don't live up to expectations.
- Lipchitz

so you're saying he's not a riskier prospect then? consistency is key my friend

Not true. Marc Staal's never breached 30P and I consider him a #1D. I consider Girardi a #1D, he had 14P. Brodin had 11P and was still a top pairing guy.

EDM doesn't need another guy that jumpes in to the rush and plays out of position to create scoring chances. They've got that in Schultz. They need a guy who can play the opposition's top lines and cover Schultz's ass.

Sorry I should be more explicit: in the absence of anything particular to talk about, I was hoping that you'd leave.
- Morris

Nah, your big green head is giving me a chub.

The funniest thing about this whole arguement is I had the exact same one about Nurse and Reilly having similar values the other day with Lippoopz in the leaf thread. Logic and reason have no place in an arguement with a leaf fan.

That's kind of what I said. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery I guess.
- Lipchitz

lack of punctuation had me confused. Seemed like you were saying Schultz'd be way behind Rielly

so you're saying he's not a riskier prospect then? consistency is key my friend

Not true. Marc Staal's never breached 30P and I consider him a #1D. I consider Girardi a #1D, he had 14P. Brodin had 11P and was still a top pairing guy.

EDM doesn't need another guy that jumpes in to the rush and plays out of position to create scoring chances. They've got that in Schultz. They need a guy who can play the opposition's top lines and cover Schultz's ass.
- TheNugeIsHuge

I never said Klefbom wasn't a good prospect and that he wouldn't be good. I just said that as a stay at home defensemen he will have to do a lot to make up for his lack of offense. I think Klefbom will be a top 4 guy, switching rink sizes and a kind of niche role increase his risk of stardom IMO. I do think both Nurse, Rielly, and Schultz are way more likely than Klefbom to become stars in the NHL.

The funniest thing about this whole arguement is I had the exact same one about Nurse and Reilly having similar values the other day with Lippoopz in the leaf thread. Logic and reason have no place in an arguement with a leaf fan.
- Ihatebrianburke

I think he's done arguing. No points of his helped him out.

All I got from him was "Rielly is Pietrangelo. He is better than nurse because."

so you're saying he's not a riskier prospect then? consistency is key my friend

Not true. Marc Staal's never breached 30P and I consider him a #1D. I consider Girardi a #1D, he had 14P. Brodin had 11P and was still a top pairing guy.

EDM doesn't need another guy that jumpes in to the rush and plays out of position to create scoring chances. They've got that in Schultz. They need a guy who can play the opposition's top lines and cover Schultz's ass.
- TheNugeIsHuge

I think you've pointed out something about the problem with evaluating "stay at home dmen": Staal, Brodin, Girardi and Klefbom are all good skaters.

If Klefbom skated like Scuderi or Smid or Murray, I'd be more worried. I've mentioned 6 different NHL stay at homers, but it's tough to put them all in the same category you know?

The funniest thing about this whole arguement is I had the exact same one about Nurse and Reilly having similar values the other day with Lippoopz in the leaf thread. Logic and reason have no place in an arguement with a leaf fan.
- Ihatebrianburke

Logic and reason from the EDM fan named IhateBrianBurke, that's kind of funny.

Nah, your big green head is giving me a chub.
- Lipchitz

I've gotten quite good at the selfie

I never said Klefbom wasn't a good prospect and that he wouldn't be good. I just said that as a stay at home defensemen he will have to do a lot to make up for his lack of offense. I think Klefbom will be a top 4 guy, switching rink sizes and a kind of niche role increase his risk of stardom IMO. I do think both Nurse, Rielly, and Schultz are way more likely than Klefbom to become stars in the NHL.
- Lipchitz

stars are different than top pairing guys some times. Don't see Klefbom or Nurse being stars as they'll likely never breach 35P. But what they can become are 1-2D that can play 21-25 mins a night against top lines. If all goes right in their development that is

I think you've pointed out something about the problem with evaluating "stay at home dmen": Staal, Brodin, Girardi and Klefbom are all good skaters.

If Klefbom skated like Scuderi or Smid or Murray, I'd be more worried. I've mentioned 6 different NHL stay at homers, but it's tough to put them all in the same category you know?
- Morris

oh I know.

Nurse is also a great skater. Big guy who skates well. Just developing his hockey IQ and offensive game some more and he could be J Schultz's perfect future partner

I never said Klefbom wasn't a good prospect and that he wouldn't be good. I just said that as a stay at home defensemen he will have to do a lot to make up for his lack of offense. I think Klefbom will be a top 4 guy, switching rink sizes and a kind of niche role increase his risk of stardom IMO. I do think both Nurse, Rielly, and Schultz are way more likely than Klefbom to become stars in the NHL.
- Lipchitz

well yeah, because stardom has a lot to do with popularity, and popularity has quite a bit to do with how flashy you are.

I'm not sure Schultz will ever be as good an NHLer as Dan Girardi, but he's much more likely to be a 'star'

stars are different than top pairing guys some times. Don't see Klefbom or Nurse being stars as they'll likely never breach 35P. But what they can become are 1-2D that can play 21-25 mins a night against top lines. If all goes right in their development that is
- TheNugeIsHuge

For what it's worth I only feel Rielly is better than Nurse because he is coming off a very strong season. Rielly was a top 3 talent that dropped to injury, then he cam out and impressed. Factor in a year of progression and improvement and I'd say he would have to be the better prospect at the time of the draft. In terms of who was the better prospect in their respective draft years I'd go Rielly but, given his injury it would be really hard to pass on a guy like Nurse. Time will tell.

well yeah, because stardom has a lot to do with popularity, and popularity has quite a bit to do with how flashy you are.

I'm not sure Schultz will ever be as good an NHLer as Dan Girardi, but he's much more likely to be a 'star'
- Morris

+1.

Basically what I said replying to the same post. If EDM wanted a star, they'd have taken Nichushkin or maybe Morin(fame from height).

well yeah, because stardom has a lot to do with popularity, and popularity has quite a bit to do with how flashy you are.

I'm not sure Schultz will ever be as good an NHLer as Dan Girardi, but he's much more likely to be a 'star'
- Morris

Star, provide more value, be a better asset, help win more games. However you want to say it.

For what it's worth I only feel Rielly is better than Nurse because he is coming off a very strong season. Rielly was a top 3 talent that dropped to injury, then he cam out and impressed. Factor in a year of progression and improvement and I'd say he would have to be the better prospect at the time of the draft. In terms of who was the better prospect in their respective draft years I'd go Rielly but, given his injury it would be really hard to pass on a guy like Nurse. Time will tell.
- Lipchitz

don't agree that he was a top 3 talent.

but, let's please leave it at that lol

don't agree that he was a top 3 talent.

but, let's please leave it at that lol
- TheNugeIsHuge

Put those Google skills to work I;m sure you can churn up some quotes and pre-season rankings.

Star, provide more value, be a better asset, help win more games. However you want to say it.
- Lipchitz

I wouldn't argue that a top offensive Dman helps win more games than a top defensive Dman

Put those Google skills to work I;m sure you can churn up some quotes and pre-season rankings.
- Lipchitz

put that running your mouth with nothing to back it up to work. You'll be back where you started. Looking like a fool