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sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:09 AM ET
No one is worried. Just you.
- Lipchitz

U like dudes buttz.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Aug 2 @ 1:12 AM ET
Be a 3rd liner til 28?
- TheNugeIsHuge


ah .. the definitive sarcastic response....

and why pre tell was Clarkson a 3rd liner until his late twenties....

because he wasn't drafted

and why wasn't he drafted?

I'll let you figure out the rest.. clearly there's some skill there.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 2 @ 1:18 AM ET
ah .. the definitive sarcastic response....

and why pre tell was Clarkson a 3rd liner until his late twenties....

because he wasn't drafted

and why wasn't he drafted?

I'll let you figure out the rest.. clearly there's some skill there.

- BorjeFan4Ever


Because he was a late bloomer. I don't think that changes my case I'm making about trade value.

Both him and khaira are similar prospects. What I was getting at
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 2 @ 1:21 AM ET
So Klefbom is untouchable but you throw away Weber for 2 prospects and a 3rd line C......
- golfingsince

Now he's on a "Weber is overpaid and thus useless" kick.
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:34 AM ET
ah .. the definitive sarcastic response....

and why pre tell was Clarkson a 3rd liner until his late twenties....

because he wasn't drafted

and why wasn't he drafted?

I'll let you figure out the rest.. clearly there's some skill there.

- BorjeFan4Ever

Cuz he likes men
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 2 @ 1:37 AM ET
U like dudes buttz.
- sanfordnson


respect
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 2 @ 2:02 AM ET
Klefbom will be the best d-man in the history of the universe.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 2 @ 2:02 AM ET
Klefbom will be the best d-man in the history of the universe.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 2 @ 2:10 AM ET
Klefbom will be the best d-man in the history of the universe.
- laughs2907


I don't see how people have trouble understanding this. A 1-2 punch of Lander and Klefbom will mean unlimited cups
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 2 @ 2:11 AM ET
Cuz he likes men
- sanfordnson


always got my back
dgutzman
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 06.22.2007

Aug 2 @ 7:17 AM ET
People really don't seem to like my Leafs/Predators offer, but I'm telling you right now: Weber's contract is a train wreck and the reason I'm making the deal is to help the Preds in the future. The deal adds roster depth and a future top pairing defenseman in Rielly, giving the Preds a chance to get a top pairing guy in a more reasonable range (maybe $5-$6mil per season when he's in his prime). The Flyers structured the Weber offer sheet in a way that they thought there was no way the Preds would match. Now, they get to live with that awful contract, no matter how good the player is.

The Leafs are one of the few teams that could actually absorb the Weber contract without it ruining the balance sheet. They get the best player in the deal, but the Preds get three solid, young pieces back, and they get to lose a contract that is terrible/dangerous.

- Maxbone
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Yes, the Weber contract is painful, but the time to trade him would have been this year before the July 1 roster bonus. However, now that we are past July 1, Weber has already received 27 million of the overall contract. He is due $1 million in salary the rest of the year. Nashville only has to cover 2 more years on this contract before the burden comes way down. Starting in 2018, Nashville is only on the hook for 30 million over the last 8 years of his contract. That is less than 4 million per year. If Weber hasn't been traded yet, he won't be unless a team offers up a fools ransom.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 2 @ 9:02 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: Trade Wars III: Yost vs. Cloutier, Blog 14
- Maxbone

liles has more value them hemsky.
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

Aug 2 @ 9:02 AM ET
he hasn't exactly progressed as planned since his draft year. Wasn't even a PPG in the OHL this year.

Last year Cloutier said Tyler Biggs is a guy you build your team around. I think he reads 6'3 and thinks he's s superstar

- TheNugeIsHuge


You're kidding.

Why haven't I seen this in someone's location info yet?
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

Aug 2 @ 9:10 AM ET
Morgan Rielly was drafted 5th and fell due to injury. How the hell was he ranked 5-9? He was a top 3 talent and us Leaf fans are lucky he dropped. Nurse and Klefbom aren't even Schenn quality prospects. Rielly is a notch above all of them.
- Lipchitz


Reilly is a notch above them, but I'm not sure who told you Reilly was a top 3 prospect that year.

NHL central scouting had him ranked 5th among NA skaters, and he could've dropped even lower if someone had wanted Forsberg, Lindholm or Teravainen earlier.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Aug 2 @ 9:53 AM ET
I don't see how people have trouble understanding this. A 1-2 punch of Lander and Klefbom will mean unlimited cups
- TheNugeIsHuge

That is a goaltender's worst nightmare!
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Aug 2 @ 10:19 AM ET
]

Yes, the Weber contract is painful, but the time to trade him would have been this year before the July 1 roster bonus. However, now that we are past July 1, Weber has already received 27 million of the overall contract. He is due $1 million in salary the rest of the year. Nashville only has to cover 2 more years on this contract before the burden comes way down. Starting in 2018, Nashville is only on the hook for 30 million over the last 8 years of his contract. That is less than 4 million per year. If Weber hasn't been traded yet, he won't be unless a team offers up a fools ransom.

- dgutzman


Vanek(Salary retained)(Sign and trade) + Pysyk + Catenacci/Flynn + 2nd rd pick in 2015
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Aug 2 @ 10:19 AM ET
U like dudes buttz.
- sanfordnson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 2 @ 11:51 AM ET
Rumors floating around that Omark close to NHL deal, but not with Oil.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Aug 2 @ 12:16 PM ET
Rumors floating around that Omark close to NHL deal, but not with Oil.
- Lahey



Thats good- I think he should get a shake from some team willing to take a chance... the (frank)er was excellent in puck possession down low- he was better than most oilers in that respect just too bad he is mall... if he did tried working on his 2 way play he might have been traded or signed sooner...
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Aug 2 @ 12:19 PM ET
liles has more value them hemsky.
- derm10




oh yeah... way way more
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 2 @ 12:48 PM ET
Thats good- I think he should get a shake from some team willing to take a chance... the (frank)er was excellent in puck possession down low- he was better than most oilers in that respect just too bad he is mall... if he did tried working on his 2 way play he might have been traded or signed sooner...
- saskoil21


Agreed. I think he'll actually end up doing quite well.
Marshalle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Aug 2 @ 12:59 PM ET
a first round pick in 2011 that wasn't even a PPG in 2013? Fringe 2nd line potential IMO
- TheNugeIsHuge

Weber should get you 2 immediate nhl players (above average to impact) and 2+ A to elite prospects.
If not slightly more.
Don't know why i quoted that one.
Biggs is a prospect, just not one that is going to make any difference in a package for Weber.
Marshalle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:07 PM ET
The argument was he was a top 3 talent and fell due to injury. He was ranked right around 5th.
- Lipchitz

if he was a top 3 talent why was he ranked 5th? 5th in NA that is.
Marshalle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Aug 2 @ 1:14 PM ET
Yeah you clearly just hate everything Toronto if your saying that. Provided no reason why even as well.
- TheLeafsInsider

Clearly.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Aug 2 @ 1:16 PM ET
Rumors floating around that Omark close to NHL deal, but not with Oil.
- Lahey


Don't we own his rights?
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