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TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 7:52 PM ET
Once again you are mistaken. The list you provided is one ranking. Its not actual NHL scouts. The list you probably were thinking of is Bob McKenzies list which is a consensus of ten NHL scouts. It also shows the ranking of the player in all the other lists.
Bob McKenzie's list had MReilly at 8.
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9825

- Iggysbff


he posted the NA skaters too. No Forsberg or Teravainen
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 7:52 PM ET
That was the central scouting bureau's list.
- Lipchitz


NA skaters. No Teravainen or Forsberg. Or even Lindholm
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 1 @ 7:53 PM ET
That was the central scouting bureau's list.
- Lipchitz


Yes. 5th among north american players....
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 7:53 PM ET
Having seen both of their game I'd take Franson, easily. Schenn is going to be good but, he needs to keep improving his skating to truly be a top line guy. Schenn has no offensive upside and Franson is pretty solid in his own right defensively.
- Lipchitz


Like I said, both still young both have room to improve. When I see Franson is capable of playing top 6 lines, I'll put him ahead of Schenn. Many will disagree
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 7:54 PM ET
wasn't injured this year.

what were NHL scouts thinking?
http://www.thehockeynews....erank-2012-NHL-draft.html

- TheNugeIsHuge


That's really your proof? Concrete stuff right there.
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 7:54 PM ET
Yes. 5th among north american players....
- Iggysbff


And Forsberg went well after Rielly.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 7:55 PM ET
That's really your proof? Concrete stuff right there.
- Lipchitz




you said you'd rather the opinions of scouts over bloggers so I posted a redraft voted by scouts.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 7:55 PM ET
And Forsberg went well after Rielly.
- Lipchitz


does that change their rankings?
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 7:56 PM ET


you said you'd rather the opinions of scouts over bloggers so I posted a redraft voted by scouts.

- TheNugeIsHuge


Anonymous scouts in a mock draft for a magazine. It's entertainment and the content is often intentionally controversial in those publications.
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 7:57 PM ET
can I just say, aside from the one idiot pulling a fake WJC performance out of his ass for argument's sake, I am thoroughly enjoying this. Can't wait til the 2014 draft lol (because EDM's picking top 10)
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 7:58 PM ET
does that change their rankings?
- TheNugeIsHuge


It doesn't really change their ranking but he was drafted ahead of all the European skaters. It shows that he was ranked right around 5.
MLeafs81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sundin, Sakic, Nolan, Kamensky, ect that's a comparable group toHall, Ebs, Nuge and Yak-Jeropotato, ON
Joined: 07.16.2012

Aug 1 @ 7:58 PM ET
That's really your proof? Concrete stuff right there.
- Lipchitz


http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9601

Riellys 4th on this list even ahead of yakupov and way ahead of klefbom
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 1 @ 7:59 PM ET
That's really your proof? Concrete stuff right there.
- Lipchitz


You're the one that keeps giving "your opinion" yet we keep providing real sources and rankings. And you call us homers?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 7:59 PM ET
Anonymous scouts in a mock draft for a magazine. It's entertainment and the content is often intentionally controversial in those publications.
- Lipchitz


they drop Rielly to create international controversy?

NHL scouts. I don't take it that seriously, but Rielly wasn't a top 3 talent. There's arguably 5-6 guys I'd take over him. Damn near the same level of prospect as Nurse
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 1 @ 8:00 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9601

Riellys 4th on this list even ahead of yakupov and way ahead of klefbom

- MLeafs81

A Craig Button list is your proof???
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 8:01 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9601

Riellys 4th on this list even ahead of yakupov and way ahead of klefbom

- MLeafs81



that's craig button. He had Emile Poirier and Mark Jankowski in the first round.

He also has J Schultz as the best prospect in the game. Klefbom over Murray. Scheifele over Huberdeau and Baertschi.
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 8:01 PM ET
You're the one that keeps giving "your opinion" yet we keep providing real sources and rankings. And you call us homers?
- Iggysbff


We can both pull up stuff from the internet that agress with us, it's the internet. What the hell is the point of that?
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 8:02 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9601

Riellys 4th on this list even ahead of yakupov and way ahead of klefbom

- MLeafs81


also Dougie Hamilton at 12. I'd put him at 3-5. He'll be a #1D at some point in his career. At 19 he played 2nd/3rd lines and faired quite well. I'd take him over Schultz as a prospect
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 1 @ 8:04 PM ET
We can both pull up stuff from the internet that agress with us, it's the internet. What the hell is the point of that?
- Lipchitz

Nothing you have come up with supports your opinion. Everything we have posted supports ours....
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 8:04 PM ET
they drop Rielly to create international controversy?

NHL scouts. I don't take it that seriously, but Rielly wasn't a top 3 talent. There's arguably 5-6 guys I'd take over him. Damn near the same level of prospect as Nurse

- TheNugeIsHuge


He wasn't a top 3 talent at the draft, he was a top 3 talent that fell due to injury. He was supposed to, and did, go around 5th.
MLeafs81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sundin, Sakic, Nolan, Kamensky, ect that's a comparable group toHall, Ebs, Nuge and Yak-Jeropotato, ON
Joined: 07.16.2012

Aug 1 @ 8:05 PM ET
We can both pull up stuff from the internet that agress with us, it's the internet. What the hell is the point of that?
- Lipchitz


This.

All I know is that we made the playoffs and have a great chance at making them this year which you guys don't especially with the division your in. You'll need a lot more then just klefbom and nurse to get back into the playoff picture
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 1 @ 8:05 PM ET
Nothing you have come up with supports your opinion. Everything we have posted supports ours....
- Iggysbff


You are great Googlers, great work!
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 8:07 PM ET
He wasn't a top 3 talent at the draft, he was a top 3 talent that fell due to injury. He was supposed to, and did, go around 5th.
- Lipchitz


yes, like I said. Was ranked from 5th-8th/9th. There was a distinct possibility that Nurse was going to CAR at 5 and CAR fans'd be saying the same thing you are.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 1 @ 8:07 PM ET
You are great Googlers, great work!
- Lipchitz

sore loser....
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 1 @ 8:09 PM ET
This.

All I know is that we made the playoffs and have a great chance at making them this year which you guys don't especially with the division your in. You'll need a lot more then just klefbom and nurse to get back into the playoff picture

- MLeafs81


I think that is all you know. Seeing as we're talking about prospects and you're bringing up TO's first playoff berth since '04.

I don't see TO having a great chance at making the playoffs. In fact I have a bet with Cooshie or whatever his name is that they don't make it.

Go talk to the pension plan puppets guys and find all that's wrong with TO. They'll be finishing right next to EDM in the gutter.
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