Make him the captain. I would, although its probably not worth pissing off the Sedins.
- doon

If only Canucks could trade them as a package to a team, I'd seriously be ok with that...with teams sucking so much though, they've got their own prospects to surround a team around and quite literally the only 2 teams that could benefit from having the Sedins right away are the Preds and Flames...i'd trade the sedins to the flames for Baertschi, 2 1sts, and Monahan, possibly a bit more than that too but that would keep the flames sucking for a long time...and screw their future up

That would explain the quality of the cheerleaders.
- doon

Well Whitney did get nice breast implants

keep him quiet?
- French-Connection

His most recent stupid moment is when he said that season ticket holders was all he cared about( something like that) he had to put out an apology in the newspapers for that one.

I'll take Khabibulin's first 10 games in 2011 and his last 15-20 games in 2013
- laughs2907

well I get that, you got to see it first hand like I did with Miller, what amazed me is he did it back to back years..after Lucic tried to take his head off and injured him..Miller that year was the one bright spot on the team, like usual

His most recent stupid moment is when he said that season ticket holders was all he cared about( something like that) he had to put out an apology in the newspapers for that one.
- doon

Yeah, that was incredibly stupid of him... I know people who worked for the Oilers who were fired for waaaaaaay less.

His most recent stupid moment is when he said that season ticket holders was all he cared about( something like that) he had to put out an apology in the newspapers for that one.
- doon

I never heard about this, I just get to see the stupid things the Habs do here

well I get that, you got to see it first hand like I did with Miller, what amazed me is he did it back to back years..after Lucic tried to take his head off and injured him..Miller that year was the one bright spot on the team, like usual
- French-Connection

You didn't see Dubnyk/Khabibulin first hand either

I never heard about this, I just get to see the stupid things the Habs do here
- French-Connection

I never heard about this, I just get to see the stupid things the Habs do here
- French-Connection

I always thought Lowe would end up with the Habs management. He speaks French you know.

Do you even understand that you made my point for me?
Potential?
Good luck trying to sell a GM that in place of the experience that Miller has.
Schneider's potential does not fetch more then Miller.
Please, just stop already.
- BuffaloHardHat

It's not just potential.
He was also better than miller last year.
And he's signed long term to a friendly number.

There's so many factors involved.
I will say that the goalie debacle in van definetely lowered luongos value and probably slightly lowered corys too.
But i still say he's worth more than miller at present

Vanek is not injury prone. I don't know where some of you get this notion.
The man plays injured , yes , but that is because he is one of the NHL's best net front men in the entire league.
And that is not up for debate. That's a fact!
The man takes a beating game in and game out. He is not a floater unlike others.
Vanek I want to retire a Sabre.
- BuffaloHardHat

The same fact as "pominville is better than kopitar and giroux"?
Or the same fact as "datsyuk isnt elite because he cant take over a game singlehandedly".

It's not just potential.
He was also better than miller last year.
And he's signed long term to a friendly number.

Cory schneider is undoubtedly worth more than miller.
- hugefemale dog77

You WILL NOT convince Sabres fans of that, yesterday I was actually being nice and saying Miller might get a LITTLE more than Schneider...that was still shot down

You WILL NOT convince Sabres fans of that, yesterday I was actually being nice and saying Miller might get a LITTLE more than Schneider...that was still shot down
- annoyance_101

a year ago you also couldnt convince the vast majority of nuck fans that luongo wasnt gonna bring much return..

Yeah, i thought about the goalie debacle and how it was common knowledge they needed to move someone so i edited my original post and it MAY have lowered schneids value abit.
But i still think the nod on pure value with his contract goes to schneid

a year ago you also couldnt convince the vast majority of nuck fans that luongo wasnt gonna bring much return..

Yeah, i thought about the goalie debacle and how it was common knowledge they needed to move someone so i edited my original post and it MAY have lowered schneids value abit.
But i still think the nod on pure value with his contract goes to schneid
- hugefemale dog77

There was a difference between Luongo and Millers return, it was reported that Gillis stupidly turned down Kadri, a 2nd and bozak, but he wanted a 1st to go along with it...so in reality, what Gillis could have gotten is a poop ton...but he declined cause he overvalued what he could get...that was Gillis' (frank) up, the fans were only going off what was being reported at the time

Damien Cox @DamoSpin

Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won.

I'm not saying for sure that this 100% happened but it was being reported at the time, so you can't blame the fans for believing that Luongo was worth this much

There was a difference between Luongo and Millers return, it was reported that Gillis stupidly turned down Kadri, a 2nd and something else, but he wanted a 1st to go along with it...so in reality, what Gillis could have gotten is a poop ton...but he declined cause he overvalued what he could get...that was Gillis' (frank) up, the fans were only going off what was being reported at the time
- annoyance_101

Gillis was just to stubborn and it cost him big. That TO trade would have been great for Van. That being said, it's not like he isn't a great goaltender. He will be Canada's starter IMO.

Gillis was just to stubborn and it cost him big. That TO trade would have been great for Van. That being said, it's not like he isn't a great goaltender. He will be Canada's starter IMO.
- doon

Makes me ill to think what the future for the Canucks could look like if he had gone for the reported deal. That being said, there is no evidence to show that, the deal that was being reported, ACTUALLY was offered but it IS what lead people to believe he was worth so much

Makes me ill to think what the future for the Canucks could look like if he had gone for the reported deal. That being said, there is no evidence to show that, the deal that was being reported, ACTUALLY was offered but it IS what lead people to believe he was worth so much
- annoyance_101

That's right, just like the Oilers offer for Schneider. Who knows what it was. If it was just a couple of spots at the draft, then why would they trade him to Edmonton?

You WILL NOT convince Sabres fans of that, yesterday I was actually being nice and saying Miller might get a LITTLE more than Schneider...that was still shot down
- annoyance_101

Nor do you need to. Sabres fans who disagree are simply looking at the players. I agree that Schneider < Miller. What Sabres fans need to realize is that in a trade scenario Schneiders age, contract value, & contract term completely outweigh the difference in talent, making Schneider the much more value me acquisition. Again, for Miller to garner more than a high first rounder a team would have to be a serious contender with unexpected goaltending issues. It could still happen. St.Louis, maybe Philly, maybe Toronto. Who knows but it won't happen until the new year .

Makes me ill to think what the future for the Canucks could look like if he had gone for the reported deal. That being said, there is no evidence to show that, the deal that was being reported, ACTUALLY was offered but it IS what lead people to believe he was worth so much
- annoyance_101

I would be livid if I were a Canucks fan and that deal was shot down.it basically fixes everything on that team right now.

Burrows Sedin Sedin
Kessler Kadri Kassian

Nor do you need to. Sabres fans who disagree are simply looking at the players. I agree that Schneider < Miller. What Sabres fans need to realize is that in a trade scenario Schneiders age, contract value, & contract term completely outweigh the difference in talent, making Schneider the much more value me acquisition. Again, for Miller to garner more than a high first rounder a team would have to be a serious contender with unexpected goaltending issues. It could still happen. St.Louis, maybe Philly, maybe Toronto. Who knows but it won't happen until the new year .
- Jeropotato

Yep

I would be livid if I were a Canucks fan and that deal was shot down.it basically fixes everything on that team right now.

Burrows Sedin Sedin
Kessler Kadri Kassian
- Jeropotato

Plus that contract. He could have come out of that looking like a genius. If that was the deal of coarse.

I would be livid if I were a Canucks fan and that deal was shot down.it basically fixes everything on that team right now.

Burrows Sedin Sedin
Kessler Kadri Kassian
- Jeropotato

Burrows is right wing, Kesler is right wing if he plays wing... I like where you're going with that though...Canucks could not actually afford in cap space the proposed deal there though...Bozak making as much as he does...Kadri probably going to get 3.5 or something higher...but if we had bozak, we wouldnt have richardson...so meh...but as I said, theres no proof to say that deal was actually turned down officially...but if it were...Gillis should have been fired a long time ago

Also I'm ok with Canucks current prospects down the middle now, its not as bleak as it were 5 years ago or anything Schroeder, Horvat, Gaunce

There was a difference between Luongo and Millers return, it was reported that Gillis stupidly turned down Kadri, a 2nd and bozak, but he wanted a 1st to go along with it...so in reality, what Gillis could have gotten is a poop ton...but he declined cause he overvalued what he could get...that was Gillis' (frank) up, the fans were only going off what was being reported at the time

Damien Cox @DamoSpin

Worth noting at June draft Canucks could've had Kadri, Bozak and a pick for Luongo. Got greedy. Now have lost as many as have won.

I'm not saying for sure that this 100% happened but it was being reported at the time, so you can't blame the fans for believing that Luongo was worth this much
- annoyance_101

I dont think that much was offered.

Everyone outside of vancouver knew that anchor contract made luongo almost worthless.
Also, at that point both bozak and especially kadri had a fraction of the value they currently have.

I dont think that much was offered.

Everyone outside of vancouver knew that anchor contract made luongo almost worthless.
Also, at that point both bozak and especially kadri had a fraction of the value they currently have.
- hugefemale dog77

Some canucks fans actually thought they'd get as much as what Sabres fans think they can get for Miller...its a joke

Some canucks fans actually thought they'd get as much as what Sabres fans think they can get for Miller...its a joke
- annoyance_101

Sure, but some, not many, Oiler fans still think we can get a decent return for Hemmer. The way I see it is similar to the Miller situation only with more conditions. Not only does a team need top six winger help, but Hemsky has to deliver as well, and for Gods sake stay healthy!