Why in the hell would the Oilers want a rental? No matter how good you think he is.
- Marshalle

cause he has made it clear he would like to play out west, and really, who would not want to play in Edmonton with all these young stars?..he would sign there I'm sure

again its not all about numbers...I never said Miller is the answer either but the Oilers will not win with Dubnyk. He always lets if a soft one at the worst possible time when the pressure is on. He plays decent in 4-2 losses when the team is badly outplayed but in a one goal game he often blows it.

My opinion
- flashfire

Thanks, Nostradamus

Why in the hell would the Oilers want a rental? No matter how good you think he is.
- Marshalle

This isn't an Oilers want Miller debate. This is whose the better goalie debate. This whole blog is total crap anyway. The trade makes zero sense for the Sabres and not much for the Oilers

We'll agree to disagree on the attitude thing...

I agree with the rest. Obviously Dubnyk would be a question mark when the pressure is on (playoffs)... We'll see how he holds up if the Oilers get there.
- laughs2907

yes, he'll let in a soft one after saving a miraculous one. Yes it is all about numbers. And if you don't want it to be about numbers, I'll trust the guy who watches every oiler game every year. Not a flames fan or buffalo fan
- TheNugeIsHuge

Dubnyk is apparently the only goalie in the league who lets in a soft one from time to time.

I have heard it from several people with the Sabres (I have some connections to players and employees) the real cancer in the lockerroom is someone else mentioned a few times in this blog and if he was gone Briere would be back here this season
- Stripes77

IM me and I will IM you back the real reason Patrick Roy left the Habs, I live in Montreal and one of my friends played for the Habs for years and gave me all the inside scoop..fair trade?

Hemsky for Liles+a prospect would make more sense, with Edmonton retaining the salary difference for this year.

No its not irrelevent, salary is very important, length of contract is very important, fit in the dressing room is important. Not just whether or not it will fit cap wise.
- Marshalle

The other points you make are relevant,
Arguable... But points worth discussion

Salary & Cap# just isn't
Not when u have room, and for teams that don't...
And the Sabres have REPEATEDLY shown they'll take back salary (kalinen, pardy) or pay part of an out going contract (Pominville) to make the deal work

Dubnyk is apparently the only goalie in the league who lets in a soft one from time to time.
- laughs2907

I think he let in weak goals in about 6 games this year. Mostly off of unlucky deflections i.e. PHX, DAL.

I think someone posted once that he lets in weak goals and it spread like wildfire and everyone thinks he's sh*t.

Thanks, Nostradamus
- laughs2907

hey what happened to you?..you're so angry since I was last on here
I guess all the rebuild has taken its toll..relax, you guys are on the verge of greatness over there for real, I cant wait to see the Oilers this year

Hemsky for Liles+a prospect would make more sense, with Edmonton retaining the salary difference for this year.
- Rysko81

That actually would make a lot of sense...

so based on hockeybuzz logic...

Hemsky for Liles+a prospect would make more sense, with Edmonton retaining the salary difference for this year.
- Rysko81

I guess. Then EDM has Smid, N Schultz, Ference, Grebeshkov, Belov, Klefbom, AND Liles on the left side.

EDM doesn't need another 5/6/7D

I think he let in weak goals in about 6 games this year. Mostly off of unlucky deflections i.e. PHX, DAL.

I think someone posted once that he lets in weak goals and it spread like wildfire and everyone thinks he's sh*t.
- TheNugeIsHuge

Typical...

yes, he'll let in a soft one after saving a miraculous one. Yes it is all about numbers. And if you don't want it to be about numbers, I'll trust the guy who watches every oiler game every year. Not a flames fan or buffalo fan
- TheNugeIsHuge

Its not all about the numbers. If it was all about the numbers then watching a game wouldn't matter, you could make all personnel decisions from the box score.

hey what happened to you?..you're so angry since I was last on here
I guess all the rebuild has taken its toll..relax, you guys are on the verge of greatness over there for real, I cant wait to see the Oilers this year
- French-Connection

I was thinking the same about you.

what's EDM cap space at right now? 1.35M. How is that tons?

If EDM dealt Hemsky for Miller straight up, they'd be 100K under
- TheNugeIsHuge

I guess I missed where they spent their $$$
But the 2nd part of that stated how the Sabres have shown they will make a deal work for whoever when it comes to the cap

U wanna say Miller isn't worth what we are prob asking,
That's a decent point

The cap# point just isn't though,
And u bring it up ALL THE TIME

yes, he'll let in a soft one after saving a miraculous one. Yes it is all about numbers. And if you don't want it to be about numbers, I'll trust the guy who watches every oiler game every year. Not a flames fan or buffalo fan
- TheNugeIsHuge

Those two do not belong in the same sentence.

I guess. Then EDM has Smid, N Schultz, Ference, Grebeshkov, Belov, Klefbom, AND Liles on the left side.

EDM doesn't need another 5/6/7D
- TheNugeIsHuge

And MacT hasn't been afraid to move a player or 2 this off season?

Its not all about the numbers. If it was all about the numbers then watching a game wouldn't matter, you could make all personnel decisions from the box score.
- Marshalle

Numbers fluctuate throughout the year... It's the numbers at the end of each season that tell the story of how player x's year went. So yes, numbers matter.

Those two do not belong in the same sentence.
- benny948

They do in that context...

IM me and I will IM you back the real reason Patrick Roy left the Habs, I live in Montreal and one of my friends played for the Habs for years and gave me all the inside scoop..fair trade?
- French-Connection

IMO Vanek is the guy. Just judging by his attitude during interviews and practice

Like to hear opinion of non-Oiler non-Sabre fans.

As a Sabre fan this deal is not close. Sabres are awful. Miller is one of the best, unfortunately he nor anyone else can carry a team like Hasek.
A first at least HAS to come back.

I enjoy watching Western Conference hockey. I would like to see that Oilers team or the Blues or Sharks w Miller.

I guess I missed where they spent their $$$
But the 2nd part of that stated how the Sabres have shown they will make a deal work for whoever when it comes to the cap

U wanna say Miller isn't worth what we are prob asking,
That's a decent point

The cap# point just isn't though,
And u bring it up ALL THE TIME
- jdfitz77

EDM'd have to send a WOW deal from BUF to retain any salary. As of right now, I don't see the difference between Miller and Dubey being big enough that EDM should send a large package for a year of Miller.

You said "I see a Vanek for Stastny trade" .
- Sabresfan-365

No Hodgson and Statsny

I agree about rebuilding, but you wouldnt get young players/prospects AND draft picks for miller, you'd get one or the other...a young player/prospect or a good 1st
- annoyance_101

We'll see
I kept hearing that about Pominville too
How he'd get less if a return than "Hall of fame warrior" iginla...
How'd that turn out again?
TWO good (not great) prospects, a 1st and a 2nd

I'm not gonna waste time arguing about what Miller will or won't get
None of us know