So this shows Mark Streit as having a decent year or am I reading it wrong?
- aightwebang17

Clearly you're reading it wrong. The prepubescent Islander fans on here will remind you of how terrible he is if needed.

So this shows Mark Streit as having a decent year or am I reading it wrong?
- aightwebang17

Impossible for Homer to have signed a player who will be good for the team.

Short answer: Yes

To be fair, though, he inherited a hell of a mess from OK Hockey, LLC.

Ironically, two of his better moves involved the Flyers... dumping Mez and Matt Walker's contracts off on Homer.
- Tomahawk

The season his team had the most success was the year he had the least involvement with it. He did send Walker and Meszaros to Philly, and replaced them with Kubina.

Most of the moves he's made haven't been especially good.

Impossible for Homer to have signed a player who will be good for the team.

Short answer: Yes
- Flyskippy

short answer: "Yes" with an "If," long answer: "No" with a "But."

To be fair, though, he inherited a hell of a mess from OK Hockey, LLC.

Ironically, two of his better moves involved the Flyers... dumping Mez and Matt Walker's contracts off on Homer.
- Tomahawk

They got a second round pick for Mez. He's gone on to play well for the Flyers when healthy.

They still have the same problems they've always had under Stevie Y. No depth scoring beyond Stamkos line, very weak defensive unit, poor goaltending.

So this shows Mark Streit as having a decent year or am I reading it wrong?
- aightwebang17

Based solely on Corsi, yes

They got a second round pick for Mez. He's gone on to play well for the Flyers when healthy.

They still have the same problems they've always had under Stevie Y. No depth scoring beyond Stamkos line, very weak defensive unit, poor goaltending.
- PhillySportsGuy

On the bright side, Tampa does have 13 feet worth of goaltender heading into next season and it's only cost them 2 - 2nd round picks, a 3rd round pick, a 4th round pick, and Cory Conacher.

To be honest, I was a little surprised to see Laviolette leading the pole here. Not that Hitchcock was a no-brainer but there were a few factors that pushed me away from Lava.

And for the record, I love Laviolette and his passion for the game and have enjoyed his success here. However, while stating that he was two wins from a Cup, I cannot erase from my mind that he was a shootout victory away from missing the playoffs entirely that year. What if they lose that shootout? It's doubtful Laviolette lives to see this current season through I would guess. Being carried by the Hartnell-Briere-Leino line and hot streaks from Boucher/Leighton in the playoffs can't corrupt my memory of the way they struggled that year and squeaked into the playoffs.

Also, the inability to have success vs divisional teams haunts me. His record against NJD and NYR I've seen posted here many times, and its absurd. Regardless of head-to-head record, they've gotten outplayed numerous times in the past few years vs NYI as well.

To me Hitch accomplished more, even though he didnt get quite as far to the dance as Laviolette did. If it wasn't for those debilitating injuries to the team that year of the Cup run, I'd almost bet they would've faired better vs Tampa and beat Calgary in the Finals.

Saying all that, Laviolette would still be my #2 vote, but Hitch is my pick. And yes, I'm still upset over the Sharp fiasco but nonetheless...
- SeaIslelandLush

If Pronger doesn't get banged up by Boston he could've been more of a force in the Final in 2010. As for that regular season, many points were pi$$ed away when Stevens was coach. Emery's injury didn't help, either. They got into the playoff hunt under Laviolette. Not in spite of him.

On the bright side, Tampa does have 13 feet worth of goaltender heading into next season and it's only cost them 2 - 2nd round picks, a 3rd round pick, a 4th round pick, and Cory Conacher.
- johndewar

Gonna be fun hoping for 1-0 and 2-1 wins all season by the bay!

Based solely on Corsi, yes
- Jsaquella

He's great!!!!

He's great!!!!


- mayorofangrytown

corgi ratings are off the charts

Based solely on Corsi, yes
- Jsaquella

The tiers are based only on icetime, so it's no wonder that the Isles' top tier of dmen were absolutely pummeled going up against the Atlantic Div's best, while guys like Strait, Hickey, and Streit enjoyed the benefits of sheltered minutes.

On the bright side, Tampa does have 13 feet worth of goaltender heading into next season and it's only cost them 2 - 2nd round picks, a 3rd round pick, a 4th round pick, and Cory Conacher.
- johndewar

Tampa does have the top rated prospect pool in the league.

http://www.hockeyprospect...rticle.php?articleid=1553

I would take it with a grain of salt as many teams are annually top 5, but never seem to get better. Flyers would be higher if Couts and Schenn weren't already in the NHL.

A lot of things went wrong for them this season... to pin the lion's share of the blame on the coach is just looking for easy answers -- the players weren't exactly doing all the right things out there.
- Tomahawk

Agreed. The player's played like crap until the last 10-15 games. It was the first time in my life (that I can remember) that I actually gave up even watching the games. I watched less than 10 games last season.

You could tell from the first 10 games the team was going nowhere. Players share the blame of course. Lavy only did a minor tweak to the offensive zone side of the puck. Having the 3rd guy above the dots on the forecheck. It was still a game of hot potatoe in the dzone.

If they still try to throw pucks up the boards with no forward there this year I might have no choice but to destroy my TV.

They got a second round pick for Mez. He's gone on to play well for the Flyers when healthy.

They still have the same problems they've always had under Stevie Y. No depth scoring beyond Stamkos line, very weak defensive unit, poor goaltending.
- PhillySportsGuy

Isn't it a bit early to pass judgement on a GM tasked with a rebuild until his own draft picks have had a chance to start percolating into the league?

Tampa does have the top rated prospect pool in the league.

http://www.hockeyprospect...rticle.php?articleid=1553

I would take it with a grain of salt as many teams are annually top 5, but never seem to get better. Flyers would be higher if Couts and Schenn weren't already in the NHL.
- PhillySportsGuy

Meh I dislike Couts and Schenn.

If Pronger doesn't get banged up by Boston he could've been more of a force in the Final in 2010. As for that regular season, many points were pi$$ed away when Stevens was coach. Emery's injury didn't help, either. They got into the playoff hunt under Laviolette. Not in spite of him.
- Flyskippy

Valid points...mind escaped me that Laviolette had about 2/3 of the games that year while Stevens was fired after about 1/3. For me I wasn't attempting to bury Laviolette, mainly playing a bit of devils advocate. Hitch certainly had his own shortcomings, like his distrust in younger players.

Its certainly not a easy decision between the two, but for as much as the 2010 team was "destiny-like," thinking of that '04 team just excites me a bit more. As painful as the Pronger/Emery injuries may have been, nothing compared to that IR list in '04. It was the main reason Kapanen was a no-brainer pick for me in the winger pole.

Isn't it a bit early to pass judgement on a GM tasked with a rebuild until his own draft picks have had a chance to start percolating into the league?
- Tomahawk

Considering he was hailed as a genius when they went to the ECF in his first year and handed the reins to Team Canada's Olympic roster, no, not really.

Valid points...mind escaped me that Laviolette had about 2/3 of the games that year while Stevens was fired after about 1/3. For me I wasn't attempting to bury Laviolette, mainly playing a bit of devils advocate. Hitch certainly had his own shortcomings, like his distrust in younger players.

Its certainly not a easy decision between the two, but for as much as the 2010 team was "destiny-like," thinking of that '04 team just excites me a bit more. As painful as the Pronger/Emery injuries may have been, nothing compared to that IR list in '04. It was the main reason Kapanen was a no-brainer pick for me in the winger pole.
- SeaIslelandLush

I hear ya. I vacillated between the two coaches before picking. I'm just writing "out loud" the same sort of point/counterpoint sparring I did in making my selection. No real horse in this "race."

Considering he was hailed as a genius when they went to the ECF in his first year and handed the reins to Team Canada's Olympic roster, no, not really.
- Jsaquella

I wanted to laugh because Homer was never afforded such a waiting period.

I hear ya. I vacillated between the two coaches before picking. I'm just writing "out loud" the same sort of point/counterpoint sparring I did in making my selection. No real horse in this "race."
- Flyskippy

I'd love to drone strike our d-core.

I wanted to laugh because Homer was never afforded such a waiting period.
- Flyskippy

Homer did well the first 2 years. Been regressing since than. If Streit doesn't die or lose a leg it will be a good off-season. However, we all know Streit will suffer a career ending arm injury which will force the medical staff to operate on him before paramedics get there... in which case i'm 100% confident he dies.

God I hate our staff.

I'd love to drone strike our d-core.
- Flyersgod

Isn't it a bit early to pass judgement on a GM tasked with a rebuild until his own draft picks have had a chance to start percolating into the league?
- Tomahawk

I'm not saying they should fire him. I just don't understand why people praise him so much. It's not like he's pulled off a McDonaugh for Gomez or anything.

Meh I dislike Couts and Schenn.
- Flyersgod

Why? They're 20 and 21 years old