Richards was a superior PK guy no matter who he was with.
- johndewar

I'd say he was #2 all-time behind only Poulin.

Double post.

top of the morning to all...
nice readership bill

Foppa/Kappy/JR
- phi1671

Had the same 3.

If Carter gets in over Kapanen..........
- Flyersgod

Ahh...more irrational Carter hate from the WIP crowd.

zuuuus!

zuuuus!
- -davies-

Only likeable player on Chicago.

I'd say he was #2 all-time behind only Poulin.
- Flyskippy

I think you are disrespecting Clarke a bit. He was as good penalty killer as I have ever seen. If I had to rank the Flyers top 5 pk guys I would go with:

1. Clarke
2. Poulin
3. Richards
4. Lappy
5. Barber

Foppa, Carts and Kapanen.

As for why I voted for Laviolette over Hitchcock, I feel he did a slightly better job as Flyers head coach. That said, If I was going to hire a guy today to run my team, I'd take Hitch before Laviolette.
- Jsaquella

Ditto!

If Carter gets in over Kapanen..........
- Flyersgod

Kapanen- 44 goals in 4.5 seasons as a flyer.
Carter- 46 goals in 2008-2009 season.

Kapanen- 44 goals in 4.5 seasons as a flyer.
Carter- 46 goals in 2008-2009 season.
- Trainfellow

Carter was acquired to score goals. Kapanen was primarily a defensive forward. Those two numbers, lacking context, do not make for the open-and-shut case you seem to think they do.

I think you are disrespecting Clarke a bit. He was as good penalty killer as I have ever seen. If I had to rank the Flyers top 5 pk guys I would go with:

1. Clarke
2. Poulin
3. Richards
4. Lappy
5. Barber
- BiggE

No, I realize how good Clarke was, it's just my opinion that on the PK that Poulin & Richards were slightly better.

Kapanen- 44 goals in 4.5 seasons as a flyer.
Carter- 46 goals in 2008-2009 season.
- Trainfellow

Stats are like bikinis: they reveal a lot but they don't show everything.

Kapanen- 44 goals in 4.5 seasons as a flyer.
Carter- 46 goals in 2008-2009 season.
- Trainfellow

so with your theory Roman should have gotten 100% of the votes for the 2000 goalie since his number were far and away superior than anyone else on the list.

Foppa, Carts and Kapanen.

As for why I voted for Laviolette over Hitchcock, I feel he did a slightly better job as Flyers head coach. That said, If I was going to hire a guy today to run my team, I'd take Hitch before Laviolette.
- Jsaquella

I went Forsberg, Roenick, and Kapanen. Carter vs Kapanen was my tough one.

Agree completely with the head coaching argument. I voted Lava but would absolutely take Hitch over Lava if I was hiring a guy today. I definitely believe in defense first.

Picked Carter, Forsberg, and Roenick....

Just put Roenick at center, the other 2 can and have played wing.

If Carter gets in over Kapanen..........
- Flyersgod

I know people hated Carter, but come on... He has to come before Krapanen on this list...

I think you are disrespecting Clarke a bit. He was as good penalty killer as I have ever seen. If I had to rank the Flyers top 5 pk guys I would go with:

1. Clarke
2. Poulin
3. Richards
4. Lappy
5. Barber
- BiggE

Your forgetting "Boom Boom" Powe!

My top 10 list for the day: The top 10 PK duos in Flyer's history:

1. Bobby Clarke/Bill Barber
2 hall of fame players who worked their tails off, need I say more? They were relentless and were shorthanded threats every moment they were on the ice. Considering how often the Bullies were shorthanded, the job they did is even that more amazing!

2. Dave Poulin/Brian Propp
Poulin was as good a penalty killer as I have ever seen and Propp was the perfect complement to him. Much like Clarke and Barber, they were always a threat to score shorthanded. On a side note, Poulin's goal while 2 men down against Quebec in the 1985 playoffs, was the most exciting goal I have ever personally witnessed.

3. Ian Laperriere/Blair Betts
Yet another combo that just out worked the opponents powerplay. Both were fearless shot blockers and absolutely relentless when came to defensive play. Along with Bobby Clarke, Lappy had the most heart of any player to ever wear the orange and black.

4. Craig MacTavish/Shjon Podein
A great combo of smarts and speed, they were brilliant together during the shortened 95 season.

5. Claude Giroux/Max Talbot
There is a good reason why Lavy puts this pair out to start every kill: They are that darn good! A great combo of speed, smarts and determination.

6. Rod Brind'amour/Trent Klatt
Another pair that simply outworked the opposing powerplay.

7. Mike Richards/R.J. Umberger
Richards was a threat to score shorthanded every time he was on the ice while Umberger used his speed and reach very well to break up plays high in the defensive zone.

8. Rick Macleish/Ross Lonsberry
The 2nd duo for the Bullies was nearly as good as the first. Macleish was always a threat to score a shorty while Roscoe was an extremely intelligent player who seemed to always be in the perfect position to break up a play. Considering the Bullies seemed to spend half of every game shorthanded, having 2 excellent pairs was a must.

9. Keith Primeau/Sami Kapanen
A great combo of size and reach (Primeau) and speed and smarts (Kapanen)

10. Joel Otto/Shjon Podein
Otto seemed to never lose a defensive zone draw and used his great reach to his advantage while Podein used his speed combined with hard work to form an excellent duo.

Honorable Mentions:
Orest Kindrachuk/Terry Crisp
Ron Sutter/Murray Craven
Keith Primeau/Simon Gagne

Could one day make the list:
Sean Couturier/Matt Read
- BiggE

I think Otto/Podein should be higher. The most exciting goal I've ever perosnally witnessed was the Richards SH goal vs. Montreal.

I know seriously
- Pyzik

Roenick, Forsberg, Kapanen

Top hitters of the 2000's?

Stats are like bikinis: they reveal a lot but they don't show everything.
- Flyskippy

I LOVE this!! Thanks

Top hitters of the 2000's?
- jak521

By hits, do you mean statistically speaking (i.e.--# of hits) or guys that would just run through people?

If we're talking 2000's, that excludes Eric Lindros.

Stats are like bikinis: they reveal a lot but they don't show everything.
- Flyskippy

I like this

By hits, do you mean statistically speaking (i.e.--# of hits) or guys that would just run through people?

If we're talking 2000's, that excludes Eric Lindros.
- johndewar

combination of both...

I like this
- BulliesPhan87

i guess you guys havent seen the new line of bikinis then....