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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 7 @ 10:46 AM ET
I know people hated Carter, but come on... He has to come before Krapanen on this list...
- youarewrong

If ever you wonder if people are ignoring your posts and wanted to know why, comments like this that show a dearth of hockey knowledge are why.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 7 @ 10:49 AM ET
i guess you guys havent seen the new line of bikinis then....
- jak521

If you can't see it, it's not a bikini.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 7 @ 10:49 AM ET
I know people hated Carter, but come on... He has to come before Krapanen on this list...
- youarewrong

Ignorant comment. I was a Carter fan, but Kapanen was that kind of player that fans connected with (including myself). Solid 2-way player who would sacrifice his body for the team and do anything to help the team, even play D. Now I'm in no way saying Kapanen is a better player than Carter, but he is the player I'd vote for when asked to choose one as a player for the 2000s Flyers.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 7 @ 10:49 AM ET
so with your theory Roman should have gotten 100% of the votes for the 2000 goalie since his number were far and away superior than anyone else on the list.
- Pyzik


He got 100% of my vote!
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 7 @ 10:50 AM ET
Top hitters of the 2000's?
- jak521


Zach Rinaldo, Luke Schenn, Mike Richards.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 7 @ 10:51 AM ET
combination of both...
- jak521


Denis Gauthier
Mike Richards
Derian Hatcher
Daniel Carcillo (he messed Carter up good)
Zac Rinaldo
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 7 @ 10:54 AM ET
Ignorant comment. I was a Carter fan, but Kapanen was that kind of player that fans connected with (including myself). Solid 2-way player who would sacrifice his body for the team and do anything to help the team, even play D. Now I'm in no way saying Kapanen is a better player than Carter, but he is the player I'd vote for when asked to choose one as a player for the 2000s Flyers.
- five4fighting10


First, you are using the word Ignorant incorrectly. I think you mean rude. And Second, I was joking. I liked Kapanen fine. I just have always called him Krapanen... its just too easy... Just like I always said Blair Butts.

Some people just need to remove the sticks from their Betts.
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Aug 7 @ 10:54 AM ET
Carter was acquired to score goals. Kapanen was primarily a defensive forward. Those two numbers, lacking context, do not make for the open-and-shut case you seem to think they do.
- dilbert719


It's not "open-shut" but it is revealing enough. Carter was a draft pick who's 46 goals IIRC have been the best for a flyer in post lockout(05/06.) For whatever your reasoning, people seem to love to hate Carter. Not trying to take away from the game that Kappy brings, but just seems like theres alot of cartsy hate around here.. Yes, stats dont show everything a player brings to a team, but your personal opinion on a player doesnt mean you just throw stats out the window
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 7 @ 10:54 AM ET
Zach Rinaldo, Luke Schenn, Mike Richards.
- youarewrong


Definitely Mike Richards. When he wanted to blow someone up, he could do so and do it easily.

mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 7 @ 10:54 AM ET
I will come back and vote when Stefan Ruzicka and Dmitry Afanasenkov have been added as options
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 7 @ 10:55 AM ET
Ignorant comment. I was a Carter fan, but Kapanen was that kind of player that fans connected with (including myself). Solid 2-way player who would sacrifice his body for the team and do anything to help the team, even play D. Now I'm in no way saying Kapanen is a better player than Carter, but he is the player I'd vote for when asked to choose one as a player for the 2000s Flyers.
- five4fighting10


Career w/ Flyers
Kapanen -24 110pts
Carter +51 343pts

Carter also played on the PK and was never hidden from other team's top lines. He has always been a good two way player. Let's also not forget he potted a ton of goals for this team. More in one season than Kapanen in his entire Flyers career.

People have such a hard on for Sami because he played defense when the Flyers were in desperate need. I loved the guy when he was here, but putting him ahead of Carter is so irrational.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 7 @ 10:58 AM ET
Career w/ Flyers
Kapanen -24 110pts
Carter +51 343pts

Carter also played on the PK and was never hidden from other team's top lines. He has always been a good two way player. Let's also not forget he potted a ton of goals for this team. More in one season than Kapanen in his entire Flyers career.

People have such a hard on for Sami because he played defense when the Flyers were in desperate need. I loved the guy when he was here, but putting him ahead of Carter is so irrational.

- PhillySportsGuy

I dont think people loved Sami because he played defense, but because he was the epitome of a team first guy. He played with his heart on his sleeve, and was a pleasure to watch. Matt Read reminds me a bit of Sami.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 7 @ 10:58 AM ET
If ever you wonder if people are ignoring your posts and wanted to know why, comments like this that show a dearth of hockey knowledge are why.
- Flyskippy


What offends you more....?

Sami Krapanen
Lauren Fart
Simon Gag-me
Blair Butts
Scott Fartnell
Villen Lieno?
Eric Does-a-man?
or Cryskippy?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 7 @ 10:59 AM ET
I will come back and vote when Stefan Ruzicka and Dmitry Afanasenkov have been added as options
- mochoson

Im waiting for Branko Radivojevic
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 7 @ 11:00 AM ET
What offends you more....?

Sami Krapanen
Lauren Fart
Simon Gag-me
Blair Butts
Scott Fartnell
Villen Lieno?
Eric Does-a-man?
or Cryskippy?

- youarewrong

Wow... couldnt even get Fartsmell right.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 7 @ 11:04 AM ET
Changing the subject completely: whats the over/under on how long it takes for the Coyotes new ownership to start talking about the need to relocate the franchise? I just don't see hockey ever succeeding in the Phoenix market. I mean if the NFL can't do well there, hockey doesn't have a shot.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 7 @ 11:05 AM ET
Wow... couldnt even get Fartsmell right.
- jak521

Oh thats a good one... I will add that to my portfolio... along with Cindy Crysby, Alex Ovenchicken, Mario and Claude LePew, and Gary Buttman.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 7 @ 11:05 AM ET
Wow... couldnt even get Fartsmell right.
- jak521

Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Aug 7 @ 11:06 AM ET
I will come back and vote when Stefan Ruzicka and Dmitry Afanasenkov have been added as options
- mochoson



so... you're never coming back here?
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 7 @ 11:06 AM ET
Changing the subject completely: whats the over/under on how long it takes for the Coyotes new ownership to start talking about the need to relocate the franchise? I just don't see hockey ever succeeding in the Phoenix market. I mean if the NFL can't do well there, hockey doesn't have a shot.
- BiggE


How long is thier contract in Glendale they just signed? 5 or 6 years I think.... Then off to Seattle or Kansas City.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 7 @ 11:09 AM ET
I dont think people loved Sami because he played defense, but because he was the epitome of a team first guy. He played with his heart on his sleeve, and was a pleasure to watch. Matt Read reminds me a bit of Sami.
- jak521


ill still take carter and his 343 goals as a Flyer. Along with his good two-way play
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Aug 7 @ 11:13 AM ET
ill still take carter and his 343 goals as a Flyer. Along with his good two-way play
- PhillySportsGuy




and his minus 14 in the playoffs as a Flyer.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 7 @ 11:14 AM ET
and his minus 14 in the playoffs as a Flyer.
- Doc_Sarcasm


He wasn't good in the playoffs but he was still a much better player than Kapanen.
PhiFaninEdm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 11.21.2011

Aug 7 @ 11:20 AM ET
Foppa, Carter, and Kappy. Kappy for being able to get to the bench after that hit he took from Tucker.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 7 @ 11:24 AM ET
and his minus 14 in the playoffs as a Flyer.
- Doc_Sarcasm


He did not produce very well in the playoffs for the Flyers. But I will at least mention that he played most of those games with either a separated shoulder, broken feet, or a badly sprained knee...

Just sayin'
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