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Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Aug 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
I find it a bit unfair to criticize Carter's playoff stats without at least acknowledging that he was playing with some pretty severe injuries that would have sidelined him had it been the regular season.

I will never question his heart or his work ethic.

- MBFlyerfan


He played poorly in the playoffs. Injuries or no injuries.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 7 @ 12:40 PM ET
Everyone has biases. That is what makes all of us individuals. I don't belong to group think crap.

Kapanen deserves a spot on the team because of his play here. He earned it. Carter didn't.

Its that simple for me.

- Flyersgod


Well maybe Carter will sacrifice his first born son to you Flyersgod.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Aug 7 @ 12:41 PM ET
Foppa, Carts and Kapanen.

As for why I voted for Laviolette over Hitchcock, I feel he did a slightly better job as Flyers head coach. That said, If I was going to hire a guy today to run my team, I'd take Hitch before Laviolette.

- Jsaquella


Wow, shocked you took Lavi.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Aug 7 @ 12:41 PM ET
He was also a couple years older than Couturier
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm really not sure what you're doing.

You're pointing out things that aren't even being talked about. You compared their rookie/sophomore years....

Look, obviously you love Carter. Grass is green. Milk is white.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Aug 7 @ 12:42 PM ET
Well maybe Carter will sacrifice his first born son to you Flyersgod.
- PhillySportsGuy


Why are you so emotionally damaged because of my refusal to vote for Carter? He your cousin or something?
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 7 @ 12:42 PM ET
Any mention of Hugh Jessiman always me chuckle.
- Feanor


You knoe I didnt realize how bad the Ranger were at draft in first round from 98-07...

Pavel Brendl at 4
Jamie Lundmark at 9
Hugh Jessiman at 12
Dan Blackburn at 10
Al Montoya at 6
Laurie Korpikoski at 19
Bobbie Sanguinette at 21
Alexi Cherepanov at 17


BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 7 @ 12:42 PM ET
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 7 @ 12:44 PM ET
Why are you so emotionally damaged because of my refusal to vote for Carter? He your cousin or something?
- Flyersgod


I just can't believe you would put Kapanen over Carter.

He's my lover. I miss our Sea Isle Summers..........
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Aug 7 @ 12:45 PM ET
I just can't believe you would put Kapanen over Carter.

He's my lover. I miss our Sea Isle Summers..........

- PhillySportsGuy


Hey, he still owns a home in Sea Isle. You can still have those summers!
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 7 @ 12:46 PM ET
I'm really not sure what you're doing.

You're pointing out things that aren't even being talked about. You compared their rookie/sophomore years....

Look, obviously you love Carter. Grass is green. Milk is white.

- Flyersgod


Have you ever heard of Kentucky Bluegrass?
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Aug 7 @ 12:47 PM ET
Have you ever heard of Kentucky Bluegrass?
- youarewrong


Touche sir...
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 7 @ 12:48 PM ET
and running put of lists to make.... heres a new one Top 10 hottest flyers wives/
- PhillaBully


John Druce's
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Aug 7 @ 12:50 PM ET
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- BulliesPhan87

It's no wonder most of the usuals are less... usual here anymore.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 7 @ 12:50 PM ET
So you think Sami Kapanen is one of the 12 best forwards the Flyers have had since 2000?

I'm sorry but I'll take Carter's skill over Kapanen's heart. Everyone always acts like Carter is Nik Zherdev. The guy played through numerous playoff injuries and always committed himself to good two-way hockey. There isn't one GM who would take Kapanen over Carter while they were both in their primes.

- PhillySportsGuy


Well, are we going All-Star team or are we going fit?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 7 @ 12:53 PM ET
You knoe I didnt realize how bad the Ranger were at draft in first round from 98-07...

Pavel Brendl at 4
Jamie Lundmark at 9
Hugh Jessiman at 12
Dan Blackburn at 10
Al Montoya at 6
Laurie Korpikoski at 19
Bobbie Sanguinette at 21
Alexi Cherepanov at 17


- youarewrong


To be fair, Cherepanov never really had a chance.......By all accounts, he was a very good player.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 7 @ 12:54 PM ET
John Druce's
- phi1671


Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Aug 7 @ 12:55 PM ET
Is Forsberg really getting more love than Roenick and Kapanen and Carter?

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 7 @ 12:55 PM ET
I just can't believe you would put Kapanen over Carter.

He's my lover. I miss our Sea Isle Summers..........

- PhillySportsGuy


The very least you could do is invite everyone down for a weekend.

Sheesh.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 7 @ 12:56 PM ET
Is Forsberg really getting more love than Roenick and Kapanen and Carter?
- Coburns_Nose

foppa
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 7 @ 12:56 PM ET
Is Forsberg really getting more love than Roenick and Kapanen and Carter?
- Coburns_Nose


I think that's defensible, actually.

When Foppa played, he put up pretty great numbers. Someone else will be along shortly, but I think I read he averaged almost an assist per game or something crazy, in addition to the other things he did well.

The operative words being "When he played"......
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 7 @ 12:58 PM ET
It's no wonder most of the usuals are less... usual here anymore.
- Flyskippy


Does little skippy whippy need a nappy wappy?
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Aug 7 @ 1:00 PM ET
I think that's defensible, actually.

When Foppa played, he put up pretty great numbers. Someone else will be along shortly, but I think I read he averaged almost an assist per game or something crazy, in addition to the other things he did well.

The operative words being "When he played"......

- johndewar


I'll take Carter's best season over Forsberg's best season.

And it's a longevity thing.

Honestly, I can remember more about Forsberg being out of the lineup than in it.

And to think that we asked Roenick to waive his no trade clause so that we had room to sign feeble-footed Foppa.

But man oh man was it fun to watch the Gagne-Forsberg-Knuble line.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 7 @ 1:01 PM ET
The very least you could do is invite everyone down for a weekend.

Sheesh.

- johndewar


We do the Sea Isle Taffy. It's a Seattle Turtleneck but with Taffy.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 7 @ 1:02 PM ET
foppa
- Crimsoninja


Verdict?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 7 @ 1:02 PM ET
I'll take Carter's best season over Forsberg's best season.

And it's a longevity thing.

Honestly, I can remember more about Forsberg being out of the lineup than in it.

And to think that we asked Roenick to waive his no trade clause so that we had room to sign feeble-footed Foppa.

But man oh man was it fun to watch the Gagne-Forsberg-Knuble line.

- Coburns_Nose


Even though Forsberg was in and out of the lineup, he might be the best (or, at least one of the best) passer I've ever seen in a Flyers uniform.
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