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Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 8 @ 2:24 AM ET
Got to think of the future tho man. There not gonna be that good for that long. History proves this. Honestly does anyone one they traded for help them for the next ten years? They got a good winger, but did they get a franchise centre?
- HouseArrest187

Agreed they will regret it just think they could afford to do it as of now but the future will tell more. I just realized we are arguing in one set of posts and having completely constructive conversation god damn schizophrenia
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 8 @ 2:26 AM ET
If we traded Yak to toronto I would want JVR, Franson, and Reilly. Steep price to pay but Yak is going to be a superstar and is going nowhere without a huge overpayment package coming back.
- Ihatebrianburke

Yeah and for that be no point for us now as it would deplete our roster and top prospect.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Aug 8 @ 2:31 AM ET
Yeah and for that be no point for us now as it would deplete our roster and top prospect.
- Yeti1181

This is why he isn't going anywhere
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Aug 8 @ 2:38 AM ET
Smid isn't as young or offensively skilled as Fanson bout the same defensively. So it doesn't fit with our age group nor help us. Franson would help bolster your blue line and the first would be to hel balance as well I was asking as a suggestion normally you would respond in a constructive way and counter not be a complete Richard. If. You can not have a conversation why do you bother coming here. I come on clouts board all the time not trolling but having a conversation. So if you can't have a conversation don't bother replying to my post.
- Yeti1181


yeti... If that is your real name, first off you changed your avatar, 2nd, I like you, 3rd. I've been drinking.

So we will start with that. Ok, ok. So yes smed is older, but he is not no dinosaur. He's what 26. Plus he blocks shots shots with his face. Top 10 in the league perennially. Your right there not the same player.

So how's this, petry for kadri+

HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Aug 8 @ 2:42 AM ET
Agreed they will regret it just think they could afford to do it as of now but the future will tell more. I just realized we are arguing in one set of posts and having completely constructive conversation god damn schizophrenia
- Yeti1181


the best poop I've read tonight.

(I'm schizophrenic)
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 8 @ 2:42 AM ET
This is why he isn't going anywhere
- Ihatebrianburke

Fair enough then
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
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Aug 8 @ 2:45 AM ET
yeti... If that is your real name, first off you changed your avatar, 2nd, I like you, 3rd. I've been drinking.

So we will start with that. Ok, ok. So yes smed is older, but he is not no dinosaur. He's what 26. Plus he blocks shots shots with his face. Top 10 in the league perennially. Your right there not the same player.

So how's this, petry for kadri+

- HouseArrest187

We have Fraser for that ha ha that and punching people. Doesn't help us we have abundance of D, need a second line scorer. And yes I did
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Aug 8 @ 2:54 AM ET
We have Fraser for that ha ha that and punching people. Doesn't help us we have abundance of D, need a second line scorer. And yes I did
- Yeti1181


Ok, so for me it's Gardner or bust, what would it take.

And if you say yak so help me...
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 8 @ 2:59 AM ET
Ok, so for me it's Gardner or bust, what would it take.

And if you say yak so help me...

- HouseArrest187

Well if we're giving up Gards will add but it's going to most likely try to acquire one of the big boys that problem with two young teams trading were both looking at young talent to acquire back for young talent. Realistically a trade between our teams is a long shot because of what we want vs what you want
HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Aug 8 @ 3:01 AM ET
Well if we're giving up Gards will add but it's going to most likely try to acquire one of the big boys that problem with two young teams trading were both looking at young talent to acquire back for young talent. Realistically a trade between our teams is a long shot because of what we want vs what you want
- Yeti1181


To that point we can completely agree.

*high five*
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 8 @ 3:03 AM ET
To that point we can completely agree.
- HouseArrest187

That basically going to young superstar for young superstar but never know one could end a bust so to risky almost*high five*
Also we're both past trading picks is the other part I forgot to add
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 8 @ 4:15 AM ET
Smid isn't as young or offensively skilled as Fanson bout the same defensively. So it doesn't fit with our age group nor help us. Franson would help bolster your blue line and the first would be to hel balance as well I was asking as a suggestion normally you would respond in a constructive way and counter not be a complete Richard. If. You can not have a conversation why do you bother coming here. I come on clouts board all the time not trolling but having a conversation. So if you can't have a conversation don't bother replying to my post.
- Yeti1181

Haha, no.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 8 @ 8:55 AM ET
Haha, no.
- MaximumBone

Your judgement doesn't count I ve read your blogs frequently I'm on to you . Oh and your welcome for the hits
Edit smid -1 franson +4
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 8 @ 9:13 AM ET
Your judgement doesn't count I ve read your blogs frequently I'm on to you . Oh and your welcome for the hits
Edit smid -1 franson +4

- Yeti1181

A.) I'm not Clouts. Max"imum"Bone, you see?

B.) Did you really just use +/- as a be-all end-all to support your argument? One played shutdown pairing minutes on a non-playoff team while the other played sheltered minutes on a playoff team. Need I go further?
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Aug 8 @ 9:18 AM ET
A.) I'm not Clouts. Max"imum"Bone, you see?

B.) Did you really just use +/- as a be-all end-all to support your argument? One played shutdown pairing minutes on a non-playoff team while the other played sheltered minutes on a playoff team. Need I go further?

- MaximumBone

Nope I figured everyone else uses I might as well then I ll move on to corsi which I actually have no idea what the (frank) that even is. Franson didn't always play shelter mins he played more and more as the season progressed.

Oh right it only comes maxbone when you reply my bad
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Aug 8 @ 9:31 AM ET
Nope I figured everyone else uses I might as well then I ll move on to corsi which I actually have no idea what the (frank) that even is. Franson didn't always play shelter mins he played more and more as the season progressed.

Oh right it only comes maxbone when you reply my bad

- Yeti1181


Thing is that the Oil have too many Dmen right now, so a deal for Franson will require one heading back.

But if you want a 2nd line scorer...Hemsky.

Franson+4th for Hemsky+Potter
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 8 @ 10:39 AM ET
Mact said all along his bold move was not one of the big 5 kids. He said they overvalue them and any trade with them it would need to be a massive overpay from the other side. So people arguing that they are not going to get that much, fine. They aren't going anywhere.

Franson is not a franchise D. But Nonis is expecting to get a ransom back for him. Oilers will not be giving up anything significant to get him. He is also a right shot which we have plenty of. We need a top 2 left shot.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Aug 8 @ 11:00 AM ET
Thing is that the Oil have too many Dmen right now, so a deal for Franson will require one heading back.

But if you want a 2nd line scorer...Hemsky.

Franson+4th for Hemsky+Potter

- OilHorse



That is not a far fetched proposal there- we could add a pick if need be... or change out potter for someone
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 8 @ 11:02 AM ET
That is not a far fetched proposal there- we could add a pick if need be... or change out potter for someone
- saskoil21

Nah. They would only be moving Franson because of cap space. No way they take back Hemsky plus a player for Franson and a pick.
TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Aug 8 @ 11:28 AM ET
That is not a far fetched proposal there- we could add a pick if need be... or change out potter for someone
- saskoil21


That's garbage. Legitimate garbage. We don't want Hemsky and really nobody else does right now. I'm just being honest if Nonis took an offer like that I'd hope he'd get fired on the spot.

And yeah cap wise it doesn't make sense either.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Aug 8 @ 11:51 AM ET
Nah. They would only be moving Franson because of cap space. No way they take back Hemsky plus a player for Franson and a pick.
- Iggysbff



What is Franson's cap hit going to be?- 2 mill-ish?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 8 @ 11:53 AM ET
What is Franson's cap hit going to be?- 2 mill-ish?
- saskoil21

No he's looking for about 4-5.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Aug 8 @ 11:53 AM ET
That's garbage. Legitimate garbage. We don't want Hemsky and really nobody else does right now. I'm just being honest if Nonis took an offer like that I'd hope he'd get fired on the spot.

And yeah cap wise it doesn't make sense either.

- TheLeafsInsider



Hemsky is a good 2nd line winger if healthy- I realize no one wants Hemsky right now but come deadline or injuries I could see us getting a 2nd
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Aug 8 @ 11:58 AM ET
No he's looking for about 4-5.
- Iggysbff



What? Holy poop... I had no idea he is that valuable...
TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Choke Central, ON
Joined: 03.30.2011

Aug 8 @ 1:32 PM ET
What? Holy poop... I had no idea he is that valuable...
- saskoil21


He's not. maybe worth on a Long term 5/20. Short 2/7 bridge contract. He may be asking for 5m but don't think he will get it.

He doesn't have enough leverage to get it really because if some team offer sheets him at say 5/25 I'm sure plenty of Leafs fans would volunteer to pack his bags and drive him to the airport, take the compensation.

Kadri on the other hand...
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