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TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 9 @ 6:07 PM ET
Coming from a Sabres fan I would expect that sort of response I bet he never scored 5 goals in 7 games on the Sabres eh? Yea...I didn't think so...he was actually quite productive until AV pulled him off the top line... he's a perfectly adequate top 6 player...
- annoyance_101


I like Kassian. He's effective when he's played with the sedins(although who isn't?). Adds a different dimension to VAN. Don't know where it puts Burrows though.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Kassian
is a fine top 6
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 9 @ 6:08 PM ET
I like Kassian. He's effective when he's played with the sedins(although who isn't?). Adds a different dimension to VAN. Don't know where it puts Burrows though.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Kassian
is a fine top 6

- TheNugeIsHuge

Kassian needs work to be a bonafide top 6 player. There's a reason he was taken off the Sedin line
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Aug 9 @ 6:10 PM ET
Was that Scooby?
- Fosco


also Horvat is better than RNH according to hank
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Aug 9 @ 6:12 PM ET
Kassian needs work to be a bonafide top 6 player. There's a reason he was taken off the Sedin line
- sbroads24


The reason wasn't Kassian himself. He didn't play himself off that line.

He was playing great with the Sedins, and a number of his goals were from his own work, not just being in the right place at the right time.

Burrows was put back with the Sedins because they looked less effective with Kassian as a winger than with Burrows.

Burrows's speed, forechecking, and hockey sense just makes the Sedins more effective.

Symbiotic relationship, like Venom, and Spiderman...

Kassian even played decent the first few weeks after being taken off their line, but was still undeservedly demoted after any minor defensive error.

Eventually, he started to play scared, and treated the puck like a grenade.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 9 @ 6:13 PM ET
I have high hopes for Kassian, but until he proves he's a top6 forward, I won't consider him one. Perhaps I should have specified "proven."

Booth is a wildcard. It's been a while since he's produced at a top6 pace. Obviously health has been a huge issue.

Again, a lot to prove, but I'm not totally confident in him, and don't see why anyone would be.

Richardson was a healthy scratch for LA for a good portion of last season, and their cup winning year. He has a ring, yes, but that has nothing to do with how capable a 3C he is.

He played wing for LA the majority of their cup winning year anyway.

He's a good 4C, but still a downgrade on Lapierre, and would be one of the weakest 3Cs in the NHL.

Just because a player never hurt a team doesn't mean you should be optimistic about him as a 3C.

And I would honestly be shocked if he was the Canucks 3C this season...

- Fosco


So basically, no one is good enough blah blah blah, ok i get it thats why the canucks have missed the playoffs only once since gillis took over...right? He must not know what he has been doing...with the virtually the same group...you know that this team and the one that made the cup isn't far different right? Torres and Ehrhoff are gone and in are Tanev and Richardson...that should not make or break the team...you realize MacKinnon is an unproven player too? Shocker...Kassian is no MacKinnon but at the same time, he was great for a stretch of games until AV (frank)ed with his head...but ya i'm sure its just the team that sucks
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 9 @ 6:13 PM ET
Link me to where ever you actually read that, or you're just making poop up...no ones that stupid...except possibly prock and jake newton
- annoyance_101




Oh I remember hearing that at the start of last year when he put up a couple points with the Sedins.

Good stuff


Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Aug 9 @ 6:13 PM ET
also Horvat is better than RNH according to hank
- TheNugeIsHuge


Hank's one of the best in the business, but you've got to be smart enough not to take that bait...
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 9 @ 6:14 PM ET
I like Kassian. He's effective when he's played with the sedins(although who isn't?). Adds a different dimension to VAN. Don't know where it puts Burrows though.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Kassian
is a fine top 6

- TheNugeIsHuge


Kesler used to play with Burrows on a regular basis...it could just as easily be

Sedin/Sedin/Kassian
Booth/Kesler/Burrows

And honestly I would prefer it...I'm not sure which way Torts is going to go with it but I think its going to be 1 of those 2 combinations
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 9 @ 6:16 PM ET
Oh I remember hearing that at the start of last year when he put up a couple points with the Sedins.

Good stuff

- robin_steele264


So it should be easy enough to link me then right?
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Aug 9 @ 6:18 PM ET
So basically, no one is good enough blah blah blah, ok i get it thats why the canucks have missed the playoffs only once since gillis took over...right? He must not know what he has been doing...with the virtually the same group...you know that this team and the one that made the cup isn't far different right? Torres and Ehrhoff are gone and in are Tanev and Richardson...that should not make or break the team...you realize MacKinnon is an unproven player too? Shocker...Kassian is no MacKinnon but at the same time, he was great for a stretch of games until AV (frank)ed with his head...but ya i'm sure its just the team that sucks
- annoyance_101



Yeah, cause that's exactly what I said...

Seriously. Reading comprehension. I never said the team sucks, either...

I explained my stance.

Kassian and Booth are wildcards, and need to prove they're top6 forwards. Booth needs to prove he can stay healthy.

Richardson is a good bottom6 player, but an underwhelming 3C.


You can twist my words or take them to the extreme all you like. I really don't care...
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 9 @ 6:18 PM ET
So it should be easy enough to link me then right?
- annoyance_101




www.kassiansbetterthanhall.com


annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 9 @ 6:20 PM ET
Yeah, cause that's exactly what I said...

Seriously. Reading comprehension. I never said the team sucks, either...

I explained my stance.

Kassian and Booth are wildcards, and need to prove their top6 forwards. Booth needs to prove he can stay healthy.

Richardson is a good bottom6 player, but an underwhelming 3C.


You can twist my words or take them to the extreme all you like. I really don't care...

- Fosco


I'm not twisting your words, you said we dont have enough top 6 forwards and we dont have a 3C, both are incorrect...
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 9 @ 6:21 PM ET
www.kassiansbetterthanhall.com
- robin_steele264


Oops! Could not find www.kassiansbetterthanhall.com
you should take that domain, since you're the only one that thinks this is fact
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Aug 9 @ 6:22 PM ET
Oops! Could not find www.kassiansbetterthanhall.com
you should take that domain, since you're the only one that thinks this is fact

- annoyance_101




No keep trying


Marshalle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Aug 9 @ 6:23 PM ET
So basically, no one is good enough blah blah blah, ok i get it thats why the canucks have missed the playoffs only once since gillis took over...right? He must not know what he has been doing...with the virtually the same group...you know that this team and the one that made the cup isn't far different right? Torres and Ehrhoff are gone and in are Tanev and Richardson...that should not make or break the team...you realize MacKinnon is an unproven player too? Shocker...Kassian is no MacKinnon but at the same time, he was great for a stretch of games until AV (frank)ed with his head...but ya i'm sure its just the team that sucks
- annoyance_101

You know this team and the one that only has 1 win since they made the cup isn't far different right?
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Aug 9 @ 6:31 PM ET
I'm not twisting your words, you said we dont have enough top 6 forwards and we dont have a 3C, both are incorrect...
- annoyance_101


You are twisting my words. I never said "blah blah blah noone's good enough", and I never said the "team sucks".

I expressed concerns about certain areas of the team and you're taking those concerns to the extreme—to the point where you're turning it into bashing.

It's about looking at things realistically and realizing that the best case scenario isn't always going to happen.

Kassian hasn't proven he can produce at a top6 pace fore more than 9 games.

I believe he will eventually, but until he does, I won't consider him one, and will continue to see that as a hole in the lineup.

Booth and Kesler have also both had injury issues for a few seasons. If one or both were to get injured again, that's another hole in the top6.

If you go read my original post, I also said no "proven 3C."

Richardson is a good bottom 6 player who played the majority of the time on the 4th line, and some spot duty on the 3rd.

He also played wing the majority of the time on LA.

So while I consider him a good 4C, I don't consider him a proven 3C.

This team isn't good enough to be above criticism...
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Aug 9 @ 6:32 PM ET
No keep trying
- robin_steele264

should have linked to meatspin.
SabreNation
Buffalo Sabres
Location: east amherst, NY
Joined: 06.26.2013

Aug 9 @ 6:34 PM ET
Really!?!?!?! LA Raiders....... they have not been in LA since 1994. In case your wondering I stopped reading at that point...
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 9 @ 6:34 PM ET
You know this team and the one that only has 1 win since they made the cup isn't far different right?
- Marshalle


Yes, you can blame the boneheaded decisions of AV for that IMO...Ballard only appeared to be a waste of a trade because he was in AV's dog house, I began to really hate the coaching here...So glad its changed...Players obviously began to feel comfortable with that coach...and thats not what they needed.
Oilers42
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 06.14.2013

Aug 9 @ 6:34 PM ET
How was that a bad thing?
- RichardClitz

It is a great thing he just disnt know who
steve362
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 9 @ 6:36 PM ET
I like Kassian. He's effective when he's played with the sedins(although who isn't?). Adds a different dimension to VAN. Don't know where it puts Burrows though.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Kassian
is a fine top 6

- TheNugeIsHuge


If these guys can stay healthy they have a legitimate shot at the Division.
nayefj
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado/Qatif, Saudi Arabia/القطيف
Joined: 02.04.2010

Aug 9 @ 6:41 PM ET
I FRANK BLACK WOMEN IN THEIR BUMS
- CondescendingM


Well now I can't get that image out of my head.
annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 9 @ 6:42 PM ET
If these guys can stay healthy they have a legitimate shot at the Division.
- steve362

DickClitz
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Duggan, AB
Joined: 08.08.2013

Aug 9 @ 6:44 PM ET
Well now I can't get that image out of my head.
- nayefj


Someone told me that interracial anal with black women is still illegal in a few States.
MisterC
Colorado Avalanche
Location: OR
Joined: 11.15.2012

Aug 9 @ 6:44 PM ET
Your blog is bad, and you should feel bad. Your list is bad, and your computer should feel bad for allowing such drivel to be written on it.
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