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GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 12 @ 3:32 PM ET
I caught every single one of Mason's starts as a flyer last season and I have a question for all of you. Was Steve Mason better than Ilya Bryzgalov? Did Mason out play Bryzgalov? My response is that I didn't see enough starts from Mason to say that he did. I'm not even positive even with Bryzgalov gone that Mason will be our starter. He could end up being next summer's joke.

Next question. How good of a season did Claude Giroux have this part season?

- dingo8urbaby

While there wasnt enough of a sample to make a clear cut case for Mason, you could see Mason's athleticism and speed and puck handling abilities. Bryz had none of that. Mason clearly has talent. And yes, he outplayed Bryz. Giroux had a better season than his numbers would suggest. Different linemates all season, couldnt start the rush cause we didnt have enough puck moving defensman. Giroux still gave his all, finished a point per game and was great on faceoffs and a big reason we had great special teams.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:32 PM ET
Yes Please!
- youarewrong


Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem here.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 12 @ 3:34 PM ET
I wanna be that guy.
Sadly, I'm an only child, my wife's siblings don't want to have kids/aren't married, and my wife's pregnant. So every one else gets to be that guy.

- jmatchett383


I'm the youngest in my family (cousins included) but I'm the first to be engaged and probably going to be the first to have kids. Maybe your wife's siblings will change their mind someday.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:35 PM ET
Yeah, I'm not seeing the problem here.
- jmatchett383


Red rears and Fripples! I'd pay to see that. They can play with a fuzzy pink puck. And when they fight, they have to use pillows!

FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 12 @ 3:36 PM ET
Red rears and Fripples! I'd pay to see that. They can play with a fuzzy pink puck. And when they fight, they have to use pillows!


- youarewrong

You gonna put skate protectors on them to?
Sigh...
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Aug 12 @ 3:36 PM ET
I think Mason's athletic attributes suit this Flyers (lack of) defense better than Bryzgalov's. Bryzgalov is good when he can be square to the shooter and get a clean look at it. However, his side-to-side movement is sad (glove save on Letang being an outlier). Mason, on the other hand, is much more athletic, and will give you more "highlight reel" types of saves, but doesn't take up as much net as Bryz. So for a team constantly giving up oddman rushes, you'd prefer Mason.

Giroux didn't have a great season, but none of the Flyers shy of Voracek did, offensively. But he still had those moments where he could just will his team to a win (the Washington OT win). I think with some more offensive depth and a healthy line, he'll be better.

- jmatchett383

Exactly. Giroux was only good and needs to be better this upcoming season. We had plenty of issues outside of Bryzgalov, including the Captain.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:37 PM ET
Red rears and Fripples! I'd pay to see that. They can play with a fuzzy pink puck. And when they fight, they have to use pillows!


- youarewrong


I predict it would be way more popular than the WNBA.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:37 PM ET
You gonna put skate protectors on them to?
Sigh...

- FlyersGrace


Don't you worry your pretty little self, we'll make sure you girls are nice and protected. Don't want you to break a nail.

/death sentence.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 12 @ 3:38 PM ET
I've met black people that really really hate white people with a passion, and jews that really really hate Catholics witha passion... Does that count, or are the only targets of racists non-whites?
- youarewrong


Not going to get into this on hockey buzz but it's not right for any group to hate any group.

It's a bit more understanding with certain groups though.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 12 @ 3:40 PM ET
Not going to get into this on hockey buzz but it's not right for any group to hate any group.

It's a bit more understanding with certain groups though.

- PhillySportsGuy

There shouldnt be any racism, jut prejudice on how certain people act, not their beliefs or the color of their skin.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:40 PM ET
Not going to get into this on hockey buzz but it's not right for any group to hate any group.

It's a bit more understanding with certain groups though.

- PhillySportsGuy


Group, or race/religion? For instance, I truly hate the WBC and all that they stand for. But I have no hate (maybe some dislike) for Baptists in general.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Aug 12 @ 3:40 PM ET
While there wasnt enough of a sample to make a clear cut case for Mason, you could see Mason's athleticism and speed and puck handling abilities. Bryz had none of that. Mason clearly has talent. And yes, he outplayed Bryz. Giroux had a better season than his numbers would suggest. Different linemates all season, couldnt start the rush cause we didnt have enough puck moving defensman. Giroux still gave his all, finished a point per game and was great on faceoffs and a big reason we had great special teams.
- GOA88

How can you say there wasn't enough of a sample size of Mason to make a case and than say that Mason did out play Bryzgalov?

Giroux was replied on too much and in the process tried to.do too much, which led to mistakes.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:41 PM ET
How can you say there wasn't enough of a sample size of Mason to make a case and than say that Mason did out play Bryzgalov?
- dingo8urbaby


Jody Shelley once scored 2 goals in back-to-back games against the Flyers. In those 2 games, he was a superstar. Jody Shelley is not a superstar.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Aug 12 @ 3:41 PM ET
How can you say there wasn't enough of a sample size of Mason to make a case and than say that Mason did out play Bryzgalov?
- dingo8urbaby

Cause that my opinion, Its not like Mason just came to Philly and got a hot streak coming off the bench, You could clearly see that Mason was the more talented goalie, at least he can move post to post and stop a breakaway.

Why are you defending a goalie who arguably one of the worst goaltenders we have had. Even Boucher could post better numbers than that with the same defense. Im out.... Bryz is gone, thank god, we will be a much better team without him. You will see.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:41 PM ET
You gonna put skate protectors on them to?
Sigh...

- FlyersGrace


You might hate this, but every guy reading this is thinking of your avatar, with a red butt, going over to a blonde, dropping the gloves, picking up a fuzzy pink pillow, and wacking eachtoher with it while making female tennis player sounds.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:42 PM ET
Not going to get into this on hockey buzz but it's not right for any group to hate any group.

It's a bit more understanding with certain groups though.

- PhillySportsGuy


Actaully its every American's right to hate whoever they want. It only becomes illegal when the hate is acted upon.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 12 @ 3:42 PM ET
Don't you worry your pretty little self, we'll make sure you girls are nice and protected. Don't want you to break a nail.

/death sentence.

- jmatchett383

Yeah I don't see many men going out on the ice with knives on their feet in their underwear. So don't give me that....
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 12 @ 3:43 PM ET
Who do you guys think will wear the cycling "A" along with Hartnell, as the home or away alternate? Or will Hartnell just wear it all the time? Personally I'd like to see Simmonds get it.

Sorry for the almost pointless question, since Briere's gone I just wanted to see what you guys or girls thought. And it's Monday.

- TobyFlenderson


Hartnell and Talbot.

Or even Hartnell and (.......wait for it....it's gonna be unpopular)......Braydon Coburn.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 12 @ 3:44 PM ET
You might hate this, but every guy reading this is thinking of your avatar, with a red butt, going over to a blonde, dropping the gloves, picking up a fuzzing pick pillow, and wacking eachtoher with it while making female tennis player sounds.
- youarewrong

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 12 @ 3:44 PM ET
Jody Shelley once scored 2 goals in back-to-back games against the Flyers. In those 2 games, he was a superstar. Jody Shelley is not a superstar.
- jmatchett383


"PSHAW YOU SAY!!"

- Paul Holmgren
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 12 @ 3:44 PM ET
You might hate this, but every guy reading this is thinking of your avatar, with a red butt, going over to a blonde, dropping the gloves, picking up a fuzzing pick pillow, and wacking eachtoher with it while making female tennis player sounds.
- youarewrong

Yeah.... really, we're not.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:45 PM ET
Yeah.... really, we're not.
- mayorofangrytown


liar.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:45 PM ET
You might hate this, but every guy reading this is thinking of your avatar, with a red butt, going over to a blonde, dropping the gloves, picking up a fuzzy pink pillow, and wacking eachtoher with it while making female tennis player sounds.
- youarewrong


...and then it got creepy.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 12 @ 3:46 PM ET

- FlyersGrace


Ok how about a lingerier DnD game....?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 12 @ 3:46 PM ET

- FlyersGrace

I imagine they get this all put together and the best they can manage is this:



and it lasts for 30 seconds.
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